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angiefox10 01-14-2012 03:11 PM
Looking at the picture..
 
It looks as if you can see the easement on the property in the lots behind these homes.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...1710_A1A18.jpg

English Ivy 01-14-2012 03:26 PM
Does anyone know what the other thing, with the three protrusions sticking up, on the other side of the transformer is? It can be seen more clearly in Penguin's original picture posted. It does not seem to be indicated on the map, regardless of correct or incorrect position.

Penguin, I sure hope you don't plan to do this closing by mail. Other than your sales rep have you contacted anyone else such as the Sumter County Building Inspector or SECO?

Good luck to you in getting this resolved.

RichieB 01-14-2012 03:27 PM
Lot dimensions
 
I can't tell from the photo of the plat, but what are the lot dimensions ? Looks like most of them are approximately 62 feet wide.

Just curious.

CaptJohn 01-14-2012 03:28 PM
angiefox10: It looks as if you can see the easement on the property in the lots behind these homes.


I noticed that too. In addition, if that yellow stob is the property corner, then the location of the transformer and telephone/cable boxes are reversed and of course, both on the wrong lots as they should be to the left of the yellow property corner marker.

RichieB. The frontages along Penguins part of the street are mostly 62.81 feet except for the corner lots. The back lines are 2 numbers added together for the break with the lot behind. His is 54.67 plus 4.9 for a total of 59.57. The sidelines appear to be 89.98 ft.

EnglishIvy: those appear to be unconnected wires to the transformer.
And yes, where was an electrical inspector on this?

Penguin, this gives me another idea. You might get more action by calling the county electrical inspector's office and complain. If it's wrong, they should have caught it. Of course, they may all try to cover it up but they have the legal authority to stop all electrical operations until it is corrected.

janmcn 01-14-2012 04:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 440152)
Hi everyone, first let me thank all of you who showed your support for me on this issue. I spoke with my sales rep today and she said that after speaking with her manager ( whoever that is ) that he said the map the electric company uses placed the transformer in the correct spot. My reply was that I was never made aware in any of the documents provided to me, that the transformer was to be placed there. She agreed but said the best that can be done is to move the door and concrete pad to the opposite side of the lanai. She also said that was suprised that someone let this issue get to this point without saying anything. In other words someone knew something was'nt right. She also said that from now on she was going to be very specific letting her future customers know everything about the lots they choose. Bothers me that it wil be at my expense. And now after reading the posts of not being able to plant around the transformer, I"m at my wits end. I'm really trying to remain calm and optomistic but there's got to be something that can be done, unfortunatly I dont know what it is. I'm sorry but I really feel like I've been misled and am very disappointed with The Villages in general. My sales rep did offer to pay for this herself, bless her heart, but I said that was'nt necessary. So I'm still thankful and hoping for the best.
Your sales person seems to have taken her good old time getting back to you. Have you emailed her the subdivision map that CaptJohn posted? That clearly shows that mistakes were made. None of this should be at your expense. Whether the sales rep has to pay out of her own pocket is between her and her employer and shouldn't concern you at all. It sounds like she's trying to play on your sympathies when they commited the error.

When I had my first house built years ago, The Villages guaranteed that it would be finished on said date or they would pay to store my things, pay for my hotel and meals. I don't know if they still have that policy.

You are much more calm than I ever would be, but listen to the advice on this forum and get this corrected before you close. Best of luck. Remember you're the one that has to live with this for many, many happy years.

CarGuys 01-14-2012 04:56 PM
Make Money With it
 
Didn't Howard Stern's movie become famous for a humming Speaker Box scene?

Honestly the power box next to the door is not desierable. Even if you planted that close it would take away form the door opening.

Noise would be a concern even if it hummed softly it's to darn close!

And I hope no EMF would be given off. I would assume code would prevent a safety issue like that.

The door must be relocated or if this was a Spec house you relocate to another home. If this was not a Spec home you may be held to it

As Gracie said the Villages are willing to please.

Carla B 01-14-2012 05:11 PM
If you compare the photo to the map, the telephone and cable boxes appear to be misplaced, also. They should be to the rear of the transformer, not in front of it.

villages07 01-14-2012 05:13 PM
Penguin...good luck to you in getting this resolved satisfactorily. Couple more suggestions for next actions...

Insist on talking to Jennifer Parr (head of Villages real estate) and/or the building department..i.e. time to go over your agent's head. No offense to your agent, but, I don't think he/she wields any power.

You might have to make a trip here prior to closing to get this resolved.

Try sending a copy of this whole thread to your agent and the building dept. there are a large number of people, existing residents and prospective buyers, following this thread to see if The Villages does the right thing.

It looks to me like someone made a mistake... You accepted and signed off on a plat that does not have the utilities where they ended up.

Good luck.

RichieB 01-14-2012 05:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by villages07 (Post 440464)
You might have to make a trip here prior to closing to get this resolved.

Good luck.
Imperative, IMO

Someone made a mistake alright !!

The whole mess needs to be straightened out.

Oren L Miller 01-14-2012 05:40 PM
still there
 
When I had my first house built years ago, The Villages guaranteed that it would be finished on said date or they would pay to store my things, pay for my hotel and meals. I don't know if they still have that policy.

We signed on the line 66 days ago and it is still in there.

janmcn 01-14-2012 05:40 PM
Your Sales Agent is lying when she says there's nothing they can do. What she meant to say is there's nothing they want to do. Those SECO rules are there for a purpose, and it seems to me, the number one purpose should be safety followed closely by noise pollution. The suggestion to call Jennifer Parr is a good one. Good Luck.
PS: Your house is beautiful.

graciegirl 01-14-2012 06:46 PM
Here is what I think prospective buyers need to gain from this. The smaller homes have smaller lots. Even some Designers have smaller lots. You can't get ten pounds of... um coffee in a five pound bag. If you have a house ten or eleven foot from the property line than your chances are pretty good to have one of those big green monsters out there danged close humming right next to your ear (I have never heard ours hum, but hey, I want to be part of the fun). I say if you have any doubts at all, rather than ending up bitter and disgruntled as some of our posters ALWAYS are, than don't build here. Orlando is nice.

Even if they move that thing on the other lot ten or eleven foot from the property line is close and I think I remember Penguin saying that was the case, his house was supposed to be ten feet from the property line and he knew that going in and one of you saying the picture showed it was NO TEN FEET, it was closer. Well it was eleven...

:spoken:

I am going to go join Larry doing something else.

buggyone 01-14-2012 07:13 PM
This kind of thing is very frustrating and hope you can work it out to your complete satisfaction.

A good reason for buying a resale home is you know exactly what is there and what is around you. Combine that with other factors including a much lower bond or no bond at all, and a resale is usually a better deal than a new home.

champion6 01-14-2012 07:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by English Ivy (Post 440419)
Does anyone know what the other thing, with the three protrusions sticking up, on the other side of the transformer is? It can be seen more clearly in Penguin's original picture posted. It does not seem to be indicated on the map, regardless of correct or incorrect position.
The other thing is a cover labeled "Telecommunications." In my neighborhood, it is used by Comcast. I was at the lot this evening and nothing is sticking up any more. The cover is in place as is normally the case.

tpop1 01-14-2012 07:26 PM
They are bad transformers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 438106)
I've heard some transformers that hum a bit.......and some that don't at all.

Bill :)
If they hum they are defective....and SECO has a problem with one particular brand.

When I moved in, the one between myself and 3 neighbors hummed so loud that lanai use was problematic.

I called SECO and asked to speak to a supervisor and when I did I mentioned my utility co. background and that I would be contacting the Public utilities Commision.

They came within a week and replaced the bad one....never a hum again.

champion6 01-14-2012 07:30 PM
Penguin, my wife and I looked at your situation this evening. It is imperative for me to tell you that a humming noise can be heard coming from the SECO box. It is noticeable while standing inside the lanai. It is not loud, but it can be heard.

Edit: Note -- I was typing my message while tpop1 was typing his message.

gerryann 01-14-2012 07:33 PM
Quote:
A good reason for buying a resale home is you know exactly what is there and what is around you. Combine that with other factors including a much lower bond or no bond at all, and a resale is usually a better deal than a new home.
This is true....BUT, some folks just want a new house..it didn't belong to anyone else, ever...No-one else used the sinks, or the stove, or the toilet and shower...no one else's germs. It might not always seem logical to everyone, but it is important to those that just plain want a NEW, unused home.

Happinow 01-14-2012 08:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 440513)
This is true....BUT, some folks just want a new house..it didn't belong to anyone else, ever...No-one else used the sinks, or the stove, or the toilet and shower...no one else's germs. It might not always seem logical to everyone, but it is important to those that just plain want a NEW, unused home.
That's one of the reasons we bought new....our colors, our choices, our lot, and our germs!!

Pturner 01-14-2012 08:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 440283)
The box is on the wrong property. The Villages says the utility company says it's placed correctly.

Here is the problem.... If it's wrong on his property, (and I believe it is) it will be placed wrong on ALL the properties on that street. This is a BIG OOPS! I am disappointing that someone isn't doing anything to correct this problem.

If I look at my Plat of Survey, the easement and the boxes are spelled out. No surprises! The OP says they do not show up on his Survey. Everything else does, but not the boxes. The reason they do not show up is because they aren't supposed to be there. It's as simple as that.

I don't know anything about moving boxes, and I would guess it would be a major project. But then, what about planting upgraded landscaping around the lanais of these properties so they have a tropical feel when they walk out there? I'll bet there are a lot of solutions to this problem. But the bottom line on this, is....

I am standing on my soapbox that there has been a mistake made and I am VERY disappointed in The Villages that they are not doing more to fix it.

I don't care about noise of tennis courts, roads, smells etc. Those are things that you can see or ask about. They are in the survey and if the wind blows the wrong way here, (Illinois) the smell might not be so good. But a box out the back door that WASN'T in the survey when you bought the property... NOPE! I stand with the OP on this.

I don't have suggestions as to his next steps... I just believe this is wrong.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oren L Miller (Post 440316)
I believe a tragic mistake has been made here. I believe the box is in the wrong location. You are getting excellent advice from a lot of well wishers here on the forum. The best news is you haven't been to the closing yet. You need to determine what TV can do to appease you. 1. Do you want a new house and have them put you in a place to live until it is done? 2. Do you want the cost of the house reduced because the house resale value could be jeapordized by this problem? 3. Do you want some really nice landscaping done to the back or your lanai to reduce the "green box eyesore" and safety concern? I certainly hope you can collaborate your way into something that would appease you. Maybe it is a combination of reduced price and landscaping. I believe TV will do something to appease you. DO NOT sign the papers at closing until you are appeased. You may need to lawyer up on this but I think that is a last resort and is some money that can be saved right now. Is there something in the house that you wanted but didn't request? Maybe you can trade this problem for some new quartz or granite countertops. Do you want some new hardwood flooring? Don't sign the dotted lines until you are truly satisfied. At the walk through you need to use the simple term that this is not acceptable. Have your plat of survey with you and just tell them that this is not accep:cus:table.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptJohn (Post 440333)
I have also been a professional cartographer for over 30 years plotting real estate maps and have corrected thousands, yes thousands, of errors on maps done by others. I would demand a copy of the overall subdivision map showing the location for the transformer and also demand a copy of the SECo map as well as go to see a SECO manager. There could have been revisions or errors or who knows but you have a short window of opportunity to get to the bottom of this even if it means delaying the closing as that is your only leverage. Right now is probably your only chance to get anything done to your satisfaction. You have to take charge. The salespeople are not working for you. Good luck. Many of us care.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeod (Post 440351)
What is the financial risk in not closing? When we bought, we had to put a quick $2K to hold the house followed by 20% within a short time with the rest at closing. But ours was/is a spec home. If there are similar funds required in building your own here, are these funds at risk by not closing when TV specifies? If they are, I guess you have to determine whether the loss is worth it compared to the immediate concern as well as the probability of a reduced resale value.

In looking at the pictures, it appears that the utilities were placed in the wrong spot OR the homesites were not placed right. Every other neighborhood I've seen has the boxes straddle lot lines, not be placed entirely on one lot. I agree with CaptJohn that Penguin needs to see the plans from TV and SECO and compare with the plan seen when picking the lot.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptJohn (Post 440360)
Thanks to angiefox10's quick thinking, she emailed me the subdivision map and I have taken an image of the area in question and it clearly shows none of the boxes should be on Penquin's lot number 145 but the lots behind his (lot 147 for the X=transformer and lot 148 for the C=cable and T=telephone ). See for yourself.
Penguin, I'd get a Florida lawyer (not connected to TV) to
tell them to move the boxes and all related underground wires off my property before it closes. Looks as if they've made a huge mistake and need to take responsibility and do the right thing in your favor.
Penguin,
I agree with all of these posts. Because you do not have a lot of time before closing, I would contact an attorney right away. Have him/her write to and speak with Mrs. Parr, request the documents you need to prove any mistake or misrepresentation that was made to you on the platt, and demand a delay in closing pending satisfactory resolve.

No way would I close without competent representation to work on your behalf for a satisfactory resolution.

There are good attorney recommendations on other TOTV threads. If you don't see a good real estate attorney recommendation here, call a highly recommended attorney and ask for a referral.

Please stand up for your rights.

I am pulling for you for a happy resolution. If that means insisting on another lot, or getting upgrades and lanai moved at TV expense, or whatever, you should have a right to be buying the lot as represented when you chose it. Best wishes and keep us posted.

Love and hugs,
P

graciegirl 01-14-2012 08:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 437677)
Yes Greg I looked at the platt of survey and it shows the utility box 11 feet from the dwelling.

First...before we get to the lawyering up. Penquin. Does your platt of survey show that your house sits 11 foot from the property line in the back or not???? Because it does sit 11 foot from the property line. I measured it myself. The green box sits in the corner on the property line.

The green box always sits on the corner on the property line.

Is your house in the right position, as you contracted? 11 feet from the property line?

Do the Morses own the utility company?

If it were me, I, me, myself, would talk to the utility company and email, fax or scan them the map that Angie has with the utility placement. With copies to Jennifer Parr. Janet Tutt and the pope.

Carla B 01-14-2012 08:47 PM
I pulled out the plat that The Villages made us on sign off on prior to the construction of our house. The plat showed Telephone and Cable on our lot, transformer on the adjoining lot. That is the way it was built. If you built new, are these installationos shown on your lot (or not) and did you sign off on them?

Whalen 01-14-2012 10:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 440494)
Here is what I think prospective buyers need to gain from this. The smaller homes have smaller lots. Even some Designers have smaller lots. You can't get ten pounds of... um coffee in a five pound bag. If you have a house ten or eleven foot from the property line than your chances are pretty good to have one of those big green monsters out there danged close humming right next to your ear (I have never heard ours hum, but hey, I want to be part of the fun). I say if you have any doubts at all, rather than ending up bitter and disgruntled as some of our posters ALWAYS are, than don't build here. Orlando is nice.

Even if they move that thing on the other lot ten or eleven foot from the property line is close and I think I remember Penguin saying that was the case, his house was supposed to be ten feet from the property line and he knew that going in and one of you saying the picture showed it was NO TEN FEET, it was closer. Well it was eleven...

:spoken:

I am going to go join Larry doing something else.


The size of one's lot is not the issue here. The utility box is on the wrong lot.

Prospective buyers, do not worry, these types of of mix ups are few and far between.
There is no need to look in Orlando.

dusty4001 01-14-2012 11:53 PM
No the utilities were not on the plat servey we signed. We saw the lot when we purchesed it in November and the utilities were not in yet. We did not want all the lawn work that comes with a larger lot . By the way this is Penguines girlfriend. All I said when I saw the construction pictures they sent us was "dosent that thing look a little close " and here we are 15 pages of post later. Thank all of you for you help and support.

Villageshooter 01-15-2012 01:35 AM
3words4u
 
GEt a lawyer!!!!!!
3 more words..........do not close!!
You must get this settled before you close, ur sales rep cares about one thing in the end......u closing so he gets his check... He does not represent ur best interest....he represents his billfold...you are going to get another huge junction box where those 3 cables are. Yes the electric transformer will have a constant hum and will put out additional heat during the summer when it is under a large load. After working for a electric utility fo 30 years I can tell you can forget about listening to am radio in the room near that transformer! Are you aware transformers leak oil? Or worse yet explode! I would never consider this lot. If you are forced to accept this shoddy workmanship, the best thing you can do is constantly keep the area very very wet, this will cause the case ground to keep a good bond with the earth to alivate the attraction of lightning strikes. Yes you are taking on a potienal huge headache! Good luck you are going to need it!

angiefox10 01-15-2012 08:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dusty4001 (Post 440608)
No the utilities were not on the plat servey we signed. We saw the lot when we purchesed it in November and the utilities were not in yet. We did not want all the lawn work that comes with a larger lot . By the way this is Penguines girlfriend. All I said when I saw the construction pictures they sent us was "dosent that thing look a little close " and here we are 15 pages of post later. Thank all of you for you help and support.
If it's not on the Plat.... It shouldn't be on the property. It doesn't matter if it's 50' away. It shouldn't be on the property.

Pturner 01-15-2012 11:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 440639)
If it's not on the Plat.... It shouldn't be on the property. It doesn't matter if it's 50' away. It shouldn't be on the property.
It seem that straightforward to me, too. It is not a question of who is at fault, the developer or the utility. That is of no concern to Penguin. Nor has Penguin expressed any concern that his house is 11 feet from the property line, as was represented to him and he agreed to.

His concern is that he didn't chose the small lot with the utility box. He chose one without it. If the box is 12 feet from his house on an adjacent lot, that's not the same as three feet from the house on his lot.

Close and the box stays, it doesn't matter whose fault it is. If Penguin does not want the lot with the misplaced box, he should not have to buy it.

I guess I am not understanding why it is any more complicated than that?

CaptJohn 01-15-2012 11:58 AM
Injecting a smile
 
Here is the good news: :laugh: He can plant as close to it as he wants and they can't legally cut down his bushes because they don't have an easement to it!
:evil6: :1rotfl: :clap2: :pepper2:

janmcn 01-15-2012 12:54 PM
What are the chances a resident would be allowed to build an addition that was closer than ten feet from a transformer? TV would be screaming the loudest and all permits would be turned down.

angiefox10 01-15-2012 12:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 440767)
What are the chances a resident would be allowed to build an addition that was closer than ten feet from a transformer? TV would be screaming the loudest and all permits would be turned down.

Gracie went out and measured the box from the house and while it appears to be less then 10' to the house, it's actually more the 10'.

The issue is that it's right out his lanai door and wasn't reflected on the Plat of Survey so he didn't know about it until the house was built. It appears these boxes should be in the lots behind these lots. :ohdear:

Penguin 01-15-2012 02:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 440734)
It seem that straightforward to me, too. It is not a question of who is at fault, the developer or the utility. That is of no concern to Penguin. Nor has Penguin expressed any concern that his house is 11 feet from the property line, as was represented to him and he agreed to.

His concern is that he didn't chose the small lot with the utility box. He chose one without it. If the box is 12 feet from his house on an adjacent lot, that's not the same as three feet from the house on his lot.

Close and the box stays, it doesn't matter whose fault it is. If Penguin does not want the lot with the misplaced box, he should not have to buy it.

I guess I am not understanding why it is any more complicated than that?
WOW, first let me say thankyou to all of you for all your support and help in resolving this issue. Thanks Gracie for taking your personal time to go out to my house and showing a better prospective on what is going on. Thanks also to Angie for taking a personal interest in this on my behalf. Pturner, you took the words right out of my mouth. Bottom line is someone made a big mistake and this whole transaction is not what I agreed to. Thats it, and the parties involved need to do the right thing and correct the mistake. As someone has mentioned in a previous post, I have tried to be somewhat nice, but now the Italian in me is starting to surface:) I think I've deceided play a little hardball and challenge this. With all the info you all have provided and some more facts I hope to uncover I intend to fight for whats right. I really want a resolution on this for it is not my intention to cause trouble. I just want to retire in the Villages and party with all you terrific people.

Penguin 01-16-2012 12:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 440323)
Oren. I don't think a mistake has been made. When you get here you will be able to see that it looks right. I think the box is in the right location. All of the homes are set back on their lots on that street and the back yards aren't big. It is what it is.

Angie just sent me the plat map and it does look like they all should be on the lots behind Penguins and his neighbors. That would be the public utility's responsibility wouldn't it? Seems like some digging and moving is in order.

I have made the album Penguins castle public in All albums above. Poor Penguin, he isn't here. I can only imagine how nervous he is. I feel so bad for his worrying and I am trying to think what we can do to help him resolve this. We could forward this whole thread to Janet Tutt...
That sounds like a good idea. Could someone send all this to a person with some authority. Maybe some of you guys know how to get things moving. I tried my sales person but got nowhere. Thanks. I'm hitting the phone hard tomorrow to try and get someone to take notice.

villages07 01-16-2012 06:00 AM
Janet Tutt is responsible for Villages district government and has nothing to do with new construction.

Your best bet is Jennifer Parr, head of sales, or the building department - Mark Morse is the uber exec in that area. Let your agent know you are elevating this issue.

janmcn 01-16-2012 08:57 AM
Have you tried contacting your contractor? His name should be somewhere on your documents. You could also contact SECO, the electric company. I don't know who does inspections: if it's a county thing or a state matter. Anybody out there know this? Good luck.

Carla B 01-16-2012 11:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oren L Miller (Post 440316)
I believe a tragic mistake has been made here. I believe the box is in the wrong location. You are getting excellent advice from a lot of well wishers here on the forum. The best news is you haven't been to the closing yet. You need to determine what TV can do to appease you. 1. Do you want a new house and have them put you in a place to live until it is done? 2. Do you want the cost of the house reduced because the house resale value could be jeapordized by this problem? 3. Do you want some really nice landscaping done to the back or your lanai to reduce the "green box eyesore" and safety concern? I certainly hope you can collaborate your way into something that would appease you. Maybe it is a combination of reduced price and landscaping. I believe TV will do something to appease you. DO NOT sign the papers at closing until you are appeased. You may need to lawyer up on this but I think that is a last resort and is some money that can be saved right now. Is there something in the house that you wanted but didn't request? Maybe you can trade this problem for some new quartz or granite countertops. Do you want some new hardwood flooring? Don't sign the dotted lines until you are truly satisfied. At the walk through you need to use the simple term that this is not acceptable. Have your plat of survey with you and just tell them that this is not accep:cus:table.
Since this is time critical and it will take time to find out how this mistake was made, I think that Oren has a good plan. That means putting the sales department (Jennifer Parr) on notice.

Without sizeable concessions from TV, you will be stuck with a house that either you can't sell or will likely sell for much less than you paid. Buyers of preowned houses have lots of choices and can be very picky. The sales department knows that.

angiefox10 01-16-2012 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 441024)
That sounds like a good idea. Could someone send all this to a person with some authority. Maybe some of you guys know how to get things moving. I tried my sales person but got nowhere. Thanks. I'm hitting the phone hard tomorrow to try and get someone to take notice.

I sent a note via email to The Villages several days ago. I haven't heard anything back but didn't expect to. I didn't know who to send it to and it was a general address.

I will send one to my sales rep as well and ask her to get it to the right person.

Pturner 01-16-2012 01:46 PM
Penguin,
I agree that you do not have time to make a bunch of phone calls trying to determine who messed up when.

I would have an attorney send a letter to Mrs. Parr and your salesperson letting them know that let lot as currently configured isnot what you agreed to purchase as represented on the plat and that you therefore, do not intend to purchase it with the utility box on it.

If this is the case, the letter could state that you want the utility box moved off the property or you want a different lot.

Phone calls to people who cannot delay or stop your closing until the issue is resolved will not do you any good that I can see. And of course, any resolution agreement needs to be in writing.

If you had more time, you might be able to resolve this on your own without help from legal counsel. But you don't. An attorney from IL could right the letter for you if you don't have one in FL.

CarolSells 01-16-2012 02:28 PM
Another thought...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 441206)
Penguin,
Phone calls to people who cannot delay or stop your closing until the issue is resolved will not do you any good that I can see. And of course, any resolution agreement needs to be in writing.

If you had more time, you might be able to resolve this on your own without help from legal counsel. But you don't. An attorney from IL could right the letter for you if you don't have one in FL.
I always agree 199% with everything PTurner says but I'm wondering if Penquin wouldn't be better off, most particularly for the sake of time, going ahead and finding a FL Real Estate Attorney ASAP because I wouldn't want any delays or questions arising about the IL attorney's ability to practice in FL. and real estate law varies from state to state. Surely someone on here has settled with a closing attorney that didn't represent the Villages. Any help here?? You could PM him - don't have to post names here. JMHO.

Penguin 01-16-2012 03:19 PM
After a dozen phone calls to Village personel and lawyers here's what I got. All the documents that were given to me and I signed, none had any information locating that transformer where it currently is. I was told the actual plat was not shown to me so that I could have made a better decision on which lot i chose. In other words,if I had been shown the actual plat, and saw the transformer, I would'nt have chosen that lot. Get a load of this, I just got a call back from the closing Dept and they said I wont get a plat of survey cause I'm paying cash for the home. They said I could order a survey for $250. The problem is I dont need a survey of what is on the lot now I need one of how they got the placement of the transformer. I think I'm just about done with this. I'm so aggravated that Its better that I refrain from any other comments at this time but I'm not through yet. I'm leaving tomorrow to drive down for the closing on Friday. Not sure how all this will turn out but I love you all for everything you've done to help. Maybe I should just thank my lucky stars for what I have.

graciegirl 01-16-2012 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 441237)
After a dozen phone calls to Village personel and lawyers here's what I got. All the documents that were given to me and I signed, none had any information locating that transformer where it currently is. I was told the actual plat was not shown to me so that I could have made a better decision on which lot i chose. In other words,if I had been shown the actual plat, and saw the transformer, I would'nt have chosen that lot. Get a load of this, I just got a call back from the closing Dept and they said I wont get a plat of survey cause I'm paying cash for the home. They said I could order a survey for $250. The problem is I dont need a survey of what is on the lot now I need one of how they got the placement of the transformer. I think I'm just about done with this. I'm so aggravated that Its better that I refrain from any other comments at this time but I'm not through yet. I'm leaving tomorrow to drive down for the closing on Friday. Not sure how all this will turn out but I love you all for everything you've done to help. Maybe I should just thank my lucky stars for what I have.
banks and offices are closed today. try them tommorow.

RichieB 01-16-2012 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 441237)
After a dozen phone calls to Village personel and lawyers here's what I got. All the documents that were given to me and I signed, none had any information locating that transformer where it currently is. I was told the actual plat was not shown to me so that I could have made a better decision on which lot i chose. In other words,if I had been shown the actual plat, and saw the transformer, I would'nt have chosen that lot. Get a load of this, I just got a call back from the closing Dept and they said I wont get a plat of survey cause I'm paying cash for the home. They said I could order a survey for $250. The problem is I dont need a survey of what is on the lot now I need one of how they got the placement of the transformer. I think I'm just about done with this. I'm so aggravated that Its better that I refrain from any other comments at this time but I'm not through yet. I'm leaving tomorrow to drive down for the closing on Friday. Not sure how all this will turn out but I love you all for everything you've done to help. Maybe I should just thank my lucky stars for what I have.
Something doesn't sound right about that, like why should the fact that you are paying cash dictate that you will not get a copy of the plat ? From all that has been mentioned here, it would seem that someone is trying to pull a "fast one."

I've heard of "caveat emptor," but this is ridiculous !

Best of luck to you with this. I think you're going to need it.


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