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tommy steam 01-16-2012 06:04 PM

the box
 
Do you think that the salesman who sold you the lot could have told you what location it was before you bought the lot?..Is it worth while to hire and outside contractor who knows about these things?

Bigben007 01-16-2012 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RichieB (Post 441264)
Something doesn't sound right about that, like why should the fact that you are paying cash dictate that you will not get a copy of the plat ? From all that has been mentioned here, it would seem that someone is trying to pull a "fast one."

I've heard of "caveat emptor," but this is ridiculous !

Best of luck to you with this. I think you're going to need it.


You are right, "Something doesn't sound right."

Jim 9922 01-16-2012 06:12 PM

Absent a full survey and not considering the problem of the transformer box, you should at least get written certification before closing that the home is in compliance with all setback rules.
It seems to me that with any new home, whether you pay cash or finance, a final plot survey should be required at closing as proof of compliant construction. It will also be useful in the future when you might consider an addition or modification to the property. You should know exactly where your setback lines are and will be asked for such references by the zoning board when making changes to the exterior. For example we once replaced a condensing unit with a larger one and had to furnish the plot survey to prove that the new pad was in compliance. (And by the way as I understand it , setback is measured from the edge of your eves or gutters, not the footprint of the building)
When selling the home you should have handy the certified plot map or survey to show a prospective buyer. I have never considered making a serious offer on a home (3 so far and 4 more with friends) without a pre-look at the certified site plans/survey. I know you can aways use a survey as a "contingency out" but why waste your time when one should be available in the first place.

Bill-n-Brillo 01-16-2012 06:13 PM

Give 'em hell, Penguin!

Bill :)

tommy steam 01-16-2012 06:19 PM

[QUOTE=Penguin;440152]Hi everyone, first let me thank all of you who showed your support for me on this issue. I spoke with my sales rep today and she said that after speaking with her manager ( whoever that is ) that he said the map the electric company uses placed the transformer in the correct spot. My reply was that I was never made aware in any of the documents provided to me, that the transformer was to be placed there. She agreed but said the best that can be done is to move the door and concrete pad to the opposite side of the lanai. She also said that was suprised that someone let this issue get to this point without saying anything. In other words someone knew something was'nt right. She also said that from now on she was going to be very specific letting her future customers know everything about the lots they choose. Bothers me that it wil be at my expense. And now after reading the posts of not being able to plant around the transformer, I"m at my wits end. I'm really trying to remain calm and optomistic but there's got to be something that can be done, unfortunatly I dont know what it is. I'm sorry but I really feel like I've been misled and am very disappointed with The Villages in general. My sales rep did offer to pay for this herself, bless her heart, but I said that was'nt necessary. So I'm still thankful and hoping for the best.[/QUOTE May I ask ,who was your sales rep?

tommy steam 01-16-2012 06:43 PM

let us know
 
Please let us know what has happned. Good luck on your quest.

graciegirl 01-16-2012 07:55 PM

on that picture other people on your street have those boxes too right close where y our are. They will have to do something too.

swimdawg 01-16-2012 08:17 PM

Interesting
 
So EVERYONE in that area has the same problem....hmmmm.....

Bill-n-Brillo 01-16-2012 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by swimdawg (Post 441347)
So EVERYONE in that area has the same problem....hmmmm.....

Everyone on that block on Penguin's side of the street.

Bill :)

swimdawg 01-16-2012 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 441348)
Everyone on that block on Penguin's side of the street.

Bill :)

hmmmm.......:confused::confused::confused:

Bill-n-Brillo 01-16-2012 08:26 PM

Some of them might care......some perhaps won't. Still others might not even be aware of the issue.

Bill :)

Pturner 01-16-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 440770)
Gracie went out and measured the box from the house and while it appears to be less then 10' to the house, it's actually more the 10'.

The issue is that it's right out his lanai door and wasn't reflected on the Plat of Survey so he didn't know about it until the house was built. It appears these boxes should be in the lots behind these lots. :ohdear:

Oh, I thought she measured the house being 11'2" from the property line. Her post didn't mention the distance of the lanai pad to the utility box.

So, there is no relationship between there being a mess-up on the plat and the fact that you aren't being given a copy of it at closing? Um...

I don't think I would close without the plat and without the issue of the utility box being resolved satisfactorily. Two distinct but related problems.

Penguin, whatever you decide to do, I wish you all the best. Hugs.

Pturner 01-16-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by swimdawg (Post 441347)
So EVERYONE in that area has the same problem....hmmmm.....

It seems that this is not necessarily the case. It depends if the distance of the home to the utility box does in fact meet safety and building codes, a different question from whether the buyers were given accurate representations and whether it bothers them if they were not. It might also depend, from a buyer's perspective, of the orientation of the lanai in relation to the box.

Bill-n-Brillo 01-16-2012 08:36 PM

Mapping shows the transformer boxes for all the homes on the same side of the street on Penguin's block to be on the wrong lots, I believe. Should be on the lots behind them all.

Bill :)

swimdawg 01-16-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 441356)
It seems that this is not necessarily the case. It depends if the distance of the home to the utility box does in fact meet safety and building codes, a different question from whether the buyers were given accurate representations and whether it bothers them if they were not. It might also depend, from a buyer's perspective, of the orientation of the lanai in relation to the box.

I sure wouldn't close if there was a problem I was unhappy with. And I do know that my sales rep was on top of everything.....and made sure everything was up to spec......and she made sure that I was happy with EVERYTHING. I understand that today is a holiday. I wanted to do some official business this afternoon and couldn't. Tomorrow is a new day.....hopefully, the homeowner can get some answers tomorrow.

angiefox10 01-16-2012 08:46 PM

I sent a note to Ms. Parr and to my sales rep. I received a response from my sales rep and I can only hope that she didn't read this thread before she responded to me, because her response was so cold, it quite frankly took me back.

If her response is the reflective of "The Villages" I'm very disappointed. I tried to explain and urged her to read the thread. I'm waiting for her response before I comment further.

Carla B 01-16-2012 09:33 PM

Somehow I have the impression that the sales people fear for their jobs before each weekly sales meeting. I wouldn't expect much of them. Today I again pulled out our "plat" at signing I saw that it stated it was not a survey, just a sketch (of what might be). The only thing we got close to a survey was when we called T&D last year for a bid on a birdcage and they had the actual construction drawing on our lot. We said "Wow," that's the first time we ever saw that!

CarGuys 01-16-2012 09:58 PM

4%-3.5%-4%
 
Remember all in July it was 4% and take it or leave it by Sept 30th.

Then in October 3.5% reappeared with a take it never 4% coming back again!

Then next day after the Oct 30th 3.5% deadline 4% was back!

I don't think sales always knows and non of us can trust a given!

It's like rolling the dice.

They cannot move that infra structure! They could get them out of a spec home into another home and let that one get sold on its own merit and apperance.

For someone it would not matter.

Penguin 01-16-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutchgirl (Post 441339)
on that picture other people on your street have those boxes too right close where y our are. They will have to do something too.

You are right, I think I'm the first one to notice or the only one that wants to make it right.

Penguin 01-16-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 441358)
Mapping shows the transformer boxes for all the homes on the same side of the street on Penguin's block to be on the wrong lots, I believe. Should be on the lots behind them all.

Bill :)

I think your right Bill, seems like they put the transformers on the wrong lots down the whole block. I'm leaving tomorrow to drive down for the closing on Friday. I will check out the situation in person on Thursday. I just hope the powers at be will step up, admit a mistake, and be man enough to correct it.

tommy steam 01-17-2012 07:02 PM

whats going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 441393)
I think your right Bill, seems like they put the transformers on the wrong lots down the whole block. I'm leaving tomorrow to drive down for the closing on Friday. I will check out the situation in person on Thursday. I just hope the powers at be will step up, admit a mistake, and be man enough to correct it.

What has happened to date?

tv2016 01-18-2012 07:09 PM

Let us know!
 
Let us know how this turns out - closing tomorrow if I'm not mistaken. We're all interested...

angiefox10 01-18-2012 07:23 PM

The OP is on the road to Florida and will give everyone the details as soon as he can get to a computer. He said he should be able to post by this weekend.

janmcn 01-19-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 441393)
I think your right Bill, seems like they put the transformers on the wrong lots down the whole block. I'm leaving tomorrow to drive down for the closing on Friday. I will check out the situation in person on Thursday. I just hope the powers at be will step up, admit a mistake, and be man enough to correct it.

I wonder if the sales department is alerting all the other property owners to this mistake, so they don't end up in the same predicament as Penquin did two weeks before closing.

jmm2760jmm 01-19-2012 01:56 PM

Enjoy the sunshine and put some plantings around it. You could be living up north and it would be covered in snow and blend right into the rest of the yard. If that is your worse problem in life...your life is pretty good!

RichieB 01-19-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 442451)
I wonder if the sales department is alerting all the other property owners to this mistake, so they don't end up in the same predicament as Penquin did two weeks before closing.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen. :sad::ohdear:

THE NEWCOMER 01-20-2012 05:10 PM

We are waiting!
 
Today is Friday Jan. 20th and it's 5:10PM and we haven't heard a WORD! :popcorn:

fenian 01-21-2012 03:00 PM

Any updates?

graciegirl 01-21-2012 03:08 PM

Penquin?

janmcn 01-21-2012 03:47 PM

I hope he wasn't abducted and taken off to an undisclosed location.

Skybo 01-21-2012 04:02 PM

Give him some time guys...he just arrived in TV and he (presumably) closed on his house yesterday. I’m guessing he’s got more important (or fun) things going on other than updating us (as much as we want to know what’s going on). Here’s to hoping that Penguin is having a good ‘ole time right now regardless of what took place with the transformer issue.

Penguin 01-21-2012 04:20 PM

Hi Everyone This Is dusty4001. Penguin has landed ( Penguin's dont fly but they do drive.).He got his cable and internet installed on friday . Yes we did close.I was not there so I dont know the details . The leni door and slab were moved before closing and the plat we all signed means nothing . He will be able to post somthing as soon as he gets the new laptop up and running.

Posh 08 01-21-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybo (Post 443582)
Give him some time guys...he just arrived in TV and he (presumably) closed on his house yesterday. I’m guessing he’s got more important (or fun) things going on other than updating us (as much as we want to know what’s going on). Here’s to hoping that Penguin is having a good ‘ole time right now regardless of what took place with the transformer issue.

Hopefully dancing in the streets, I would be.

Pturner 01-21-2012 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 443593)
Hi Everyone This Is dusty4001. Penguin has landed ( Penguin's dont fly but they do drive.).He got his cable and internet installed on friday . Yes we did close.I was not there so I dont know the details . The leni door and slab were moved before closing and the plat we all signed means nothing . He will be able to post somthing as soon as he gets the new laptop up and running.

Congratulations and welcome to Lower Paradise!

angiefox10 01-21-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 443593)
Hi Everyone This Is dusty4001. Penguin has landed ( Penguin's dont fly but they do drive.).He got his cable and internet installed on friday . Yes we did close.I was not there so I dont know the details . The leni door and slab were moved before closing and the plat we all signed means nothing . He will be able to post somthing as soon as he gets the new laptop up and running.

Thanks for posting. I had a feeling he was a little busy.

I'm glad they moved the door, that should be a GREAT help! A girlfriend sent me a couple of pictures of some really neat plants you can plant that will look AWESOME in front of the box! When you guys are settled in I will forward them to you! I think you will be impressed! I think she said she only paid about $5 for each of them and the were fabulous!

I'm sorry to hear the survey didn't mean anything, but I have a feeling you two are still going to have the best life in TV!

I can't wait to meet you! :)

skyguy79 01-21-2012 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 443598)
Hopefully dancing in the streets, I would be.

He is with a couple of his good friends and that's why you haven't heard from him yet! Here's an artist rendering of their partying:
http://www.amusing-activities.moonfr...30_192x144.jpg

Posh 08 01-21-2012 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyguy79 (Post 443637)
He is with a couple of his good friends and that's why you haven't heard from him yet! Here's an artist rendering of their partying:
http://www.amusing-activities.moonfr...30_192x144.jpg

:coolsmiley:

Bill-n-Brillo 01-21-2012 06:11 PM

Glad to hear everything got taken care of to his satisfaction!

Bill :)

skyguy79 01-21-2012 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 443648)
Glad to hear everything got taken care of to his satisfaction!

Bill :)

Did you sneak some home warming popcorn into their Igloo while he was at closing? :popcorn:

Bill-n-Brillo 01-21-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyguy79 (Post 443651)
Did you sneak some home warming popcorn into their Igloo while he was at closing? :popcorn:

I was counting on you for that, skyguy! You're there - we're not! :1rotfl:

Bill :)


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