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Rowenfl 04-08-2020 06:25 AM

Testing
 
How many people in the area have been tested? If not tested we cannot get an accurate number.

Boston1945 04-08-2020 06:27 AM

Let's do some numbers here.
Total population in Sumter County 120,999
Total tested 1,001
Lake County population 335,362
Total tested 2,191

The numbers tell the story.

WesMan 04-08-2020 06:40 AM

Your post is terrible and should be taken down!!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1742212)
Too bad there isn't any "blood of Jesus" around when you need it. Let's hope these parishioners have hoarded a supply.


Your post is terrible and should be taken down!!!!!

dcartman 04-08-2020 06:50 AM

Coronavirus facts
 
Read a report yesterday of counties infected which also brook it down into cities and towns. Wildwood had 5 deaths the villages had 17 there we’re many others. I can’t see most of my doctors in person as a lot are only do FaceTime appointments only. My primary doctors assistant told me they aren’t seeing patients at this time because they had 8 patients test positive for coronavirus and that’s why they are only doing FaceTime. I am sure the numbers are much higher than the villages want you to know even though they have taken precautions to protect us. Pretend you are safe and go about your business as usual, it’s like a casino, maybe you will be the odds maybe you won’t.

CoachKandSportsguy 04-08-2020 06:58 AM

prisoner's dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1742429)
We’re not overwhelmed with it because the whole thing has been overhyped. The models they used to predict the number of deaths were seriously flawed.

The more the virus is overhyped, the more lives will be saved, the more the virus is ignored, the more deaths will happen.

Managing large diverse populations with information alone is very difficult.

There are videos from china of welding doors to apartments shut, which culture would you prefer? forcibly restrained or by individual choice?

sportsguy

HelenLCSW 04-08-2020 07:03 AM

Not here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1742129)
that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

I'm not minimizing the threat as I feel that the threat is huge. It's just that I thought that when it got here it would spread like wildfire. I thought the hospitals would be overwhelmed in a matter of days.

Maybe it's because the first cases got here around the same time as the Governor's stay at home order.

I've personally met and chatted with some people here in TV that think the everyone is over reacting and that it's not a big deal. I witnessed myself

people in a supermarket standing within inches of one another and talking into each other's face.

I guess (hope) that these cases are few and far between but I really thought that once it got here we were going to see thousands of cases and hundreds of deaths within a matter of weeks.
It appears that we're doing a great job of mitigating. Way to go!!! Keep up the good work.

I think it probably is here —statistics have been released by county, not by name of Village. I know of 3 people in serious condition (one died, one in coma) — none in my village.

I think the major hit has just not come to us yet —let’s hope we are still doing this will over the next two weeks!

Jamello 04-08-2020 07:05 AM

Can you share the source that listed 27 deaths in The Villages?

blueash 04-08-2020 07:12 AM

IMO we will not get badly hit by Covid. Those who have extrapolated based on the rate of increase early in the pandemic are failing to take heed of the fact that those exponential increases occurred when there were open stores and not social isolation.

With those interventions it is hoped and expected that there will be a dramatic decrease in disease. The cases we are hearing reported now are people who were infected up to 4 weeks ago [2 weeks incubation, 1 week before significant symptoms, 1 week for testing to be done and entered into the database] Some are shorter, but the picture you are seeing as the numbers go up all represent pre-shutdown spread. The early cases were mostly travel related, then known contact related, now most are unknown or community spread.

Do a good job and we will avoid much of the community spread that would have happened without intervention. All you nay-sayers will point to the numbers in a few months and say "see, it was all for nothing" and you'll be wrong.

Travelhunter 04-08-2020 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbajeda (Post 1742402)
As of 6:30 last night (4/7) there were 87 cases in Sumter county.

Central Florida coronavirus cases county-by-county - Orlando Sentinel

A topic of conversation at the pool used to be how many cruises people had been on. Yet even though the Polo Grounds has been testing for several days now, there hasn't been a huge uptick in infections. There was a post yesterday citing a story from the Tampa Bay Times on how The Villages was going to be decimated because of the age of the populace. Nothing specific, just speculation based on information of susceptible population based on age. I guess we are better at this social distancing thing than other places; it also helps that we have fewer gathering places since the squares have been closed. And there are those who will continue to ignore recommendations that will help avoid infection. Well, like Ron White says, "You can't fix stupid."

Less cases than I thought. It goes up daily. There seems to be a high percentage of deaths. I hope it slows down

Lynnesail 04-08-2020 07:15 AM

Are there any statistics particular to The Villages?

Joanne and Mike 04-08-2020 07:16 AM

You can see results by county (Sumter 87) and by zip code 32162 34 cases, 32163 11 cases. Results are updated twice a day
Experience

dougjb 04-08-2020 07:20 AM

The real test for exposure...in my opinion....is the ratio of the number tested to the number infected. All we are hearing is the ratio of the number infected to the number who died. With a population of twenty some odd million in the state of Florida and the number of tests conducted around 50,000 (and even if this ever changing number reached to 100,000), it would seem to me that we simply do not know how many individuals are testing positive. Case in point, I had a neighbor return from a family affair via plane in early March. Both became very sick and the ambulance was called for at least two times. As of yesterday, the man who was sick as a dog and lost 20 pounds, had not been tested. The woman who was also sick as a dog and was tested....but, the results have not been forthcoming as of yet.

So, I think the only thing we can conclude in The Villages is that we may...or we may not have a massive infection rate. For me, that is unsatisfactory. I will keep up my social distancing and no matter how near and dear my friends are here, they will, for the time being be my far and dear friends!

BoatRatKat 04-08-2020 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynnesail (Post 1742418)
Are there statistics somewhere that keep track of COVID for just the people in The Villages?

Yes, as of last night there were 47 in the Sumter portion of TV and 7 in Lake. None in the Marion portion.

BoatRatKat 04-08-2020 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joanne and Mike (Post 1742490)
You can see results by county (Sumter 87) and by zip code 32162 34 cases, 32163 11 cases. Results are updated twice a day
Experience

Use that same sight and dig deeper, it takes a little patience but you can find out exactly how many for just The Villages. The info is also broken down by towns.

Annie66 04-08-2020 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1742134)
The mitigators are killing the virus and are saving lives of smart & stupid people.


The socializers are feeding the virus and extending the life of the virus.

I couldn't agree with you more.

mkarba 04-08-2020 07:44 AM

There haven’t been enough people tested in The Villages. Hopefully Florida will get enough test kits that we could be heavily tested. Out of everyone I know only one person has been tested. My fear is once April Stay At Home lifted everyone will rush to pools and restaurants and sunset views——this virus wont be gone. Just under better control.
My neighborhood in Summerhill has been unbelievably diligent at social distance I really appreciate them all.

pkfavreau2 04-08-2020 07:50 AM

Villages virus cases low
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1742129)
that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

I'm not minimizing the threat as I feel that the threat is huge. It's just that I thought that when it got here it would spread like wildfire. I thought the hospitals would be overwhelmed in a matter of days.

Maybe it's because the first cases got here around the same time as the Governor's stay at home order.

I've personally met and chatted with some people here in TV that think the everyone is over reacting and that it's not a big deal. I witnessed myself people in a supermarket standing within inches of one another and talking into each other's face.

I guess (hope) that these cases are few and far between but I really thought that once it got here we were going to see thousands of cases and hundreds of deaths within a matter of weeks.

It appears that we're doing a great job of mitigating. Way to go!!! Keep up the good work.

I think TV closing things down made a difference, starting with the recreation center classes. While some people feel deprived I feel great-full, the number of cases are low, I saw an article that some people feel they should get reimbursed for their amenity fees or have them reduced by the Morris family. We looked outside The Villages at quite a few developments in a few states and here, and all of the amenity fees were almost the same or more, and did not offer anywhere near as much free activities or at a minimal cost. I feel blessed to be here. Stay healthy.

lclear 04-08-2020 07:50 AM

The Villages is about 2 weeks behind reaching the apex, I believe. Don't let your guard down. Be safe.

Swoop 04-08-2020 07:56 AM

The whole idea of social distancing is not to “make the virus go away” it’s simply to slow the spread, flatten the curve. The theory is that if everyone doesn’t get sick at once, healthcare won’t be overrun. Based on this model, people will continue to get the virus, but at a slower rate. What we don’t know yet is how many people have had the virus since 80% of those who get the virus have have little or no symptoms. Once we test a large portion of the population for both the virus and the antibodies, will we truly know the mortality rate. To date, the majority of people tested have had severe symptoms. Even then the mortality hasn’t been as high as originally thought. Especially since anyone who dies who tested positive for the virus is coded as a Coronavirus death. In fact they don’t even have to test positive. If the patient showed signs that are consistent with the Coronavirus, they are coded as virus deaths. It’s good to be safe, wash your hands, but you take the same precautions during flu season. If you are in the “at risk” category take extra precautions. But the idea that if everyone just locked themselves in their homes for two weeks, or if everyone wore masks, the virus will go away, is simply not true.

SunnyHester 04-08-2020 08:00 AM

Stats
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dendrn (Post 1742415)
Just a reminder the first case detected in US was Jan 20, on Feb 26, President Trump announced 15 cases and no deaths, that would go away magically. THAT WAS 37 DAYS IN THE US. On the other hand the tri county area of Lake/Sumter/Marion had 1st case March 16. Today, ONLY 23 DAYS LATER we have 271 cases with 9 deaths right here in TV and many more in tri county area. WOW, big difference. I would say we are spreading and FAST.


Would you please cite the source of your stats? Thanks.

Woolyg 04-08-2020 08:16 AM

As stated the issue is testing.. The drive through testing opened back up yesterday. It was shut down since last week due to no tests kits available. Just received a notice from the daily sun that all slots for tomorrows testing are taken and that they will resume testing when TEST KITS are available. Again, they are out of test kits after just 3 days of testing this week.

Until we get the needed amount of test kits the numbers published will continue to be inaccurate at best.. You can't tell how many are infected if you can't even test the symptomatic people.

Nick B 04-08-2020 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1742156)
The incubation period is quite long and 80% don't get very sick so it may be too early to tell.

I was just speaking with a friend who while visiting her grandchildren in WA over Thanksgiving last year became very ill and even lost her sense of taste and smell. Several of the children got pneumonia. She now believes they had the Wuhan virus. Many Chinese were visiting or living in the area and she believes it got there through some of them.

Good thing they didn't get Covid 19

BlackhawksFan 04-08-2020 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1742129)
that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

I'm not minimizing the threat as I feel that the threat is huge. It's just that I thought that when it got here it would spread like wildfire. I thought the hospitals would be overwhelmed in a matter of days.

Maybe it's because the first cases got here around the same time as the Governor's stay at home order.

I've personally met and chatted with some people here in TV that think the everyone is over reacting and that it's not a big deal. I witnessed myself people in a supermarket standing within inches of one another and talking into each other's face.

I guess (hope) that these cases are few and far between but I really thought that once it got here we were going to see thousands of cases and hundreds of deaths within a matter of weeks.

It appears that we're doing a great job of mitigating. Way to go!!! Keep up the good work.

Last I knew THE UF Health survey being done at the Polo Grounds was running about 1% of those tested.

kendi 04-08-2020 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Healthiest (Post 1742208)
Yes, they are. The governor said church services are 'essential services.' There was one church on the news (can't remember which one) in which 1800 people were in attendance. They kept saying that the blood of Jesus heals and seemed to really believe that they couldn't get it.

That was is Tampa

rmd2 04-08-2020 09:19 AM

testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1742203)
The first case here was over two weeks ago. The incubation period could be up to fourteen days. With the testing facility at the polo grounds, I would think that if there were a lot of cases we'd know about it.

Are they still testing at the Polo grounds? and are they allowing people with no symptoms to be tested?

Girlcopper 04-08-2020 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1742151)
The next two weeks should tell the tale. I'm a little concerned about churches being allowed to have congregations inside, this is the worst possible time to be doing so.

Well, shame on the people who are still going. We arent toddlers where we have to be told where we can go. Common sense.

davem4616 04-08-2020 09:39 AM

disappointing to see all the grandkids that have come to visit Grandma in TV lately

it's the folks from outside the bubble that have nothing else to do and don't know enough to stay away that will be TV's downfall

BevSparks 04-08-2020 10:19 AM

The reason for quarantine is to 1. stop the spread and 2. hospitals and staff can not handle hundreds of people sick at the same time. Follow the guidelines and think about your neighbor when and if you are outside your home. This too shall pass.

Dickfars 04-08-2020 10:31 AM

I live in Maryland and have a house in TV. I live in Carroll County - pop 168,000
So far 19 dead, 162 positive in the community with 1 death. The problem lies with the Nursing Homes. Two NH have been involved. One has a population of 95 with 81 positive patients and 31 positive staff members. There have been 17 deaths at this facility. A second Home has 1 dead, 12 positive patients and 2 staff positive. Outside of the NH facilities there are 54 positives with 1 death. The breakdown of positives are 35 women and 19 men. By age 13 20-29, 6 30-39, 11 40-49, 16 50-59, 6 60-69, 1 70-79, 1 80-89. It will probably get worse before it gets better. We have been on stay at home for 2 weeks or so. BE SAFE - I wear a mask when leaving home for groceries or scripts.

TandHSTAR@AOL.com 04-08-2020 10:33 AM

By now all churches have been on lock down and have been for weeks. Most if not all are live streaming their services. Check it out

blueash 04-08-2020 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1742221)
Please ignore the typos, didn't edit the above before hitting send

You can edit your entry after you have posted by using the edit button. Go ahead and correct any typos and add or delete information. The system will ask you why you are editing but you don't have to enter a reason. Then hit save.

Byte1 04-08-2020 10:51 AM

Consider the fact that we do not have children playing with other children and going to school, bringing the diseases home with them. This being a senior community, we do not have a lot of workers going to and returning from daily jobs, also transmitting germs with them. If you think about it, we do not get the common illnesses here that many suffer over the winter months up North. Even though we have activities where we socialize with each other, we do not have the day to day close proximity working families have up North. Plus, some illnesses do not survive in warmer weather. But, I believe the primary reason we are not inundated with illnesses is because we don't have the young folks here that bring sickness home from school with them, as they do in other areas. That's just my opinion, and I am sure there are plenty of flaws to my reasoning. But, it is a thought. Remember when coworkers would come to work with the flu because they did not want to use their sick leave? Remember when parents would send sick children to school?

manaboutown 04-08-2020 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick B (Post 1742591)
Good thing they didn't get Covid 19

Do you mean COVID-19?

As I mentioned many Chinese nationals reside in and visit that area of the state of Washington. I don't know if any had been or were visiting from Wuhan before or during the time she was there. The illness she experienced was like many who have been through a bout of the virus have described. So it could have been the Wuhan or Chinese virus, COVID-19.

JillClancy 04-08-2020 11:16 AM

Wait for it. It will come. I can’t believe the churches are holding services. I’m back in NY now and it spreads like wildfire. We were seeing a few cases here and there then all of a sudden it was everywhere. I got it and not sure how or when but I’ve been sick for 3 weeks. Had all the symptoms even loss of tastes and smell. Not back yet. Please take this seriously because it isn’t a joke.

rockandroller 04-08-2020 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1742429)
We’re not overwhelmed with it because the whole thing has been overhyped. The models they used to predict the number of deaths were seriously flawed. In the end more people will die of the flu this year then will die of COVID-19. I’m not saying you shouldn’t take it serious but it’s not turning out to be what we were initially told. Everyone’s free to believe what they need to believe

Folks, use your favorite site to search on

"latest news about covid 19 in sweden"

It's interesting how this democratic government has reacted to COVID-19 and the ensuing results.

OhioBuckeye 04-08-2020 11:40 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1742129)
that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

I'm not minimizing the threat as I feel that the threat is huge. It's just that I thought that when it got here it would spread like wildfire. I thought the hospitals would be overwhelmed in a matter of days.

Maybe it's because the first cases got here around the same time as the Governor's stay at home order.

I've personally met and chatted with some people here in TV that think the everyone is over reacting and that it's not a big deal. I witnessed myself people in a supermarket standing within inches of one another and talking into each other's face.

I guess (hope) that these cases are few and far between but I really thought that once it got here we were going to see thousands of cases and hundreds of deaths within a matter of weeks.

It appears that we're doing a great job of mitigating. Way to go!!! Keep up the good work.

Yes, you're right it is spreading pretty fast but if you listen to the news they told you it would & bad spots would move all the time for a couple of weeks or more. I'm surprise nobody has mentioned the stock market. Our stock market has dropped 1,000 points for at least 3 weeks now, some rich person, maybe in another country is buying it at a very low price, you know maybe someone might take over a lot of companies here in the U.S. So yes it doesn't surprise me that TV is in a bad way now but some other states that were having people drop like flies, it's a 100% better. So yes, the govt. told us it's going to get worse before it gets better. Just do what they're telling us to do, then you can say you did everything they told you to do. Maybe it's getting worse in other places because these people are running around like they're calling this virus a buff. Have & good day, & God Bless everyone!

manaboutown 04-08-2020 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockandroller (Post 1742767)
Folks, use your favorite site to search on

"latest news about covid 19 in sweden"

It's interesting how this democratic government has reacted to COVID-19 and the ensuing results.

I just checked for current deaths in these three Nordic countries and this is how they stack up. I do not know if they have been hit with the virus concurrently or what their populations and policies are.

Sweden 687

Denmark 218

Norway 93

EdFNJ 04-08-2020 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1742203)
The first case here was over two weeks ago. The incubation period could be up to fourteen days. With the testing facility at the polo grounds, I would think that if there were a lot of cases we'd know about it.


According to today's "Happy News" paper the Polo Grounds testing facility will be shut down ON THURSDAY "until they get more testing supplies." So much for test distribution.

EdFNJ 04-08-2020 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1742748)
Do you mean COVID-19?

As I mentioned many Chinese nationals reside in and visit that area of the state of Washington. I don't know if any had been or were visiting from Wuhan before or during the time she was there. -----<clip>------ So it could have been the Wuhan or Chinese virus, COVID-19.

You just won't let that go will you? Even the big guy in the north has stopped saying that I would think it would have tricked down here by now.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 04-08-2020 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woolyg (Post 1742407)
We all hope that we have a low infection rate.. Does anyone think that 1K tests in Sumpter county is enough to make any judgement with the population of Sumpter? The biggest issue is still the availability of tests. The drive through testing is meant to go everyday but it has to shut down every week after 3 or 4 days of testing because they run out of tests. Every time testing is running the slots fill up in 2 hours.. So there are people with symptoms that just don't get tested until they have more tests. So our infection rate is most likely higher than it appears.. As the availability of tests increases the cases will increase also. Tampa drive through testing at Raymond James and also the Orlando drive through testing sites have also been limited in the people they can test.. All due to lack of tests.. There was a report on Orlando Fox station that they are setting up 3 new drive through testing sites (not here) with the hope of some of them doing 1k tests a day. One specifically in Melbourne. They will be using the new test that gives results in 15 min. Once we can test more people we will get a more realistic infection rate. The link below shows Florida cases and more. Just click on the testing tab and then the county and you can see how many were tested and results. This is updates twice daily.

Florida Official Results

Testing is only useful to health care professionals in determining where the virus is. Only the positive results are useful. What we don't know is how many people who have tested negative have picked up the virus since being tested.

I believe that the only way to live now is to assume that everyone that you see has it.


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