Originally Posted by Hancle704 (Post 1149064)

"If you like the doctor/insurance you have you will be able to keep it and most families will save about $2500/year on their medical insurance." Was it all a dream?

Originally Posted by dave harris (Post 1149022)

The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems.
The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems

We are the only industrialized country without national health insurance. I guess we know better.

Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1149080)

Google the Payroll tax in those Countries and you will learn why.... YES WE DO KNOW BETTER.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1149086)

Yes, we do. I've said it before, but I'll repeat it---the WHO "rankings" are total BS. US ranks 28th, Luxembourg ranks #1. The WHO uses a weighted formula that includes life expectancy at about 50%, and financial "fairness" at 50%. Most countries only count births beyond 34 weeks in their statistics, the US reports ANY "birth", even at 24 weeks that takes 1 breath then dies. This gives us a high infant mortality rate and therefore a lower life expectancy at "birth". The financial part includes factors like access to care, overall health of the population, and percentage of income spent on health care. The more a country taxes and "redistributes" income, the better they rank.

So, putting aside the mechanics of how the WHO advocates for socialism, and therefore ranks US low, consider this: When world leaders, royalty, and billionaires get sick, they flock to "Luxembourg", not NY or Boston---right???

Originally Posted by billybye (Post 1149270)

Actually anyone in Medicare or ACA needs to get on computer and check around. Probably won't find UHC the best option available.
I am on Medicare with BC/BS and changing to Care Plus next year for lower deductibles and RX costs. UHC was not even in the running price wise.
My wife had an ACA 2015 platinum plan with BC/BS that was increasing greatly next year. We found another BC/BS 2016 plan in the silver category for less money, and was a better plan than the platinum we had.
If you do a lot of research you will be surprised. I was SHOCKED.

Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1149393)

Quite right, we found the very same thing. Its analogous to putting the largest size of anything into your supermarket basket thinking its the better deal but a short math calc shows the smaller containers are actually the better deal. It's good to know you're benefiting from the ACA.

Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1149416)

You would think that the Government would be on your side and not try to deceive you like that! Don't listen to what they say....watch what they do. I wonder how many countless others were deceived?

Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1149426)

The government will not tell you what deductions you're entitled to on your 1040. It's up to you to find them.

Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1149455)

That is a lot different than deceiving the uninitiated into purchasing a healthcare plan presumed to be the best ( platinum)! When the next less expensive model down (gold) is actually a better plan for less money. Pure Deception.

Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1149462)

If you want super low copayments and deductibles then the platinum plans fit the bill. If you want higher copayments with a low out of pocket max then the silver is the way to go. Its not deception, it all depends upon on your individual medical needs and wants. I would much rather have many choices instead of just a few. Its not deception, its choice. :read: