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bagboy 05-06-2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 1056770)
There is a short article in the on-line news about today's meeting where Janet Tutt said "the Villages Transportation is a leaseholder and pays taxes to maintain the roads". Therefore they are the only ones allowed to use the facilities.

Pretty much answers the original question.

njbchbum 05-06-2015 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 1056770)
There is a short article in the on-line news about today's meeting where Janet Tutt said "the Villages Transportation is a leaseholder and pays taxes to maintain the roads". Therefore they are the only ones allowed to use the facilities.

Isn't that the strangest response? Aren't the roads public roads? Don't some of everyone's taxes go toward paying to maintain the roads? Why can't a villager or a group of villagers park their car[s] wherever they want to for however long they want to park wherever?

Big O 05-06-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1056785)
Isn't that the strangest response? Aren't the roads public roads? Don't some of everyone's taxes go toward paying to maintain the roads? Why can't a villager or a group of villagers park their car[s] wherever they want to for however long they want to park wherever?

I don't think the discussion is regarding public roads but the parking areas behind the retail shops. From experience I can tell you my wife and I could hardly find a parking space behind Two Jays around 8:00 A.M. on the day of the chili cook off in February. There were two busses and numerous collateral cars getting ready for some day trip. There was nobody in Two Jays and the parking lot was a real mess when people started showing up for the cook-off.

CFrance 05-06-2015 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 1056770)
There is a short article in the on-line news about today's meeting where Janet Tutt said "the Villages Transportation is a leaseholder and pays taxes to maintain the roads". Therefore they are the only ones allowed to use the facilities.

Buses have been doing this for YEARS. Why now? The kids are getting greedy.

njbchbum 05-06-2015 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Big O (Post 1056796)
I don't think the discussion is regarding public roads but the parking areas behind the retail shops. snipped

Now parking areas make sense. Thanks! Silly me for taking Ms. Tutt literally!

Bogie Shooter 05-06-2015 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1056802)
Buses have been doing this for YEARS. Why now? The kids are getting greedy.

Greedy? How do you come up with that?

CFrance 05-06-2015 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1056863)
Greedy? How do you come up with that?

Because of what Janet Tutt said about being a leaseholder and contributing to maintaining the roads (which I don't get that). And because of what I just said--Busses have been allowed to pick up groups in TV parking lots for years.

Bonny 05-06-2015 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1056867)
Because of what Janet Tutt said about being a leaseholder and contributing to maintaining the roads (which I don't get that). And because of what I just said--Busses have been allowed to pick up groups in TV parking lots for years.

I would really doubt that this has anything to do with the "kids" being greedy. These kids have been very involved in the running of the Villages for many years.

JoMar 05-06-2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1056867)
Because of what Janet Tutt said about being a leaseholder and contributing to maintaining the roads (which I don't get that). And because of what I just said--Busses have been allowed to pick up groups in TV parking lots for years.

There was at time when there were only 10,000 people here....stuff does change. Somewhere in this thread someone said that if the bus companies want the business they will figure out how to serve their clients.....they are the ones making the money, so since they have a business and work for a profit they must be greedy too.

CFrance 05-06-2015 07:48 PM

The Villages developer has always touted the many clubs and extra-curricular activities available to people who buy here. These bus trips of the villages clubs have been going on ever since time and certainly long since there were only 10,000 people here. It's not a case of outside bus companies being greedy. It's a case of convenience for the club members.

All of a sudden they are not allowed, and the reason given by Ms. Tutt is they don't pay to help maintain the roads, whatever that means, or hold a lease. To me that means the bottom line is $. Why did Gary Morse let it go on for so long?

looneycat 05-07-2015 07:29 AM

there's no pleasing some people, how dare they limit buses? how sorely do you complain when you can't find parking? so which is it? If you complain about one you get the other so make up your minds. I doubt you all could pick one without bitching and moaning about the other! sheesh! 13 pages of this? really?

CFrance 05-07-2015 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by looneycat (Post 1056986)
there's no pleasing some people, how dare they limit buses? how sorely do you complain when you can't find parking? so which is it? If you complain about one you get the other so make up your minds. I doubt you all could pick one without bitching and moaning about the other! sheesh! 13 pages of this? really?

We've never had a problem finding parking. The buses load & unload in the most remote parts of the lots. I am not one of the constant complainers about TV, but I stand by my comments on this one.

DonH57 05-07-2015 08:09 AM

I thought it to be really confusing about the bus issue because the only bus trips I've taken were with groups which held their meetings in the rec centers and are resident groups. We have never taken up a lot of parking and were always picked up in a corner of a lot and never overnight.

looneycat 05-07-2015 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1056988)
We've never had a problem finding parking. The buses load & unload in the most remote parts of the lots. I am not one of the constant complainers about TV, but I stand by my comments on this one.

the population here has at least doubled in the last 10 years as has the need for car/cart parking, no part of any parking lot is still remote, please point out the remote parts of the colony plaza parking area....it always seems full.....not so 7 or 8 years ago....meanwhile the number of bus trips has increased each trip requiring parking. this is an observation, not a complaint, it's just the way it is. I guess growing up in nyc, where you might have to walk a few blocks after you park was the norm, makes this a real non-issue for me...you will be in a vehicle to get to the bus no matter where it picks you up, what exactly is the problem? driving 2 more minutes ? you've got to be kidding me!

twoplanekid 05-07-2015 09:08 AM

I can’t believe that space can’t be located in a city of over 100,000 to accommodate Villagers parking in their own city and not having to travel to another community to park.

As the Village population continues to increase, we may see parking meters or a rule limiting us to only one car or golf cart. Now, this is only a rumor!:icon_wink:


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