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Chellybean 02-20-2022 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chase219 (Post 2063655)
First of all bicycles and walkers should not be on a golf cart path that is why they are Called golf cart paths Bicycles and walkers have their own paths Strictly for walkers and bicycles, Bicycle and walk on 75 or the FL Turnpike, So many bicycles are flying on the golf cart paths thinking they are invincible Someone is going to get hit one day the way they fly around the tunnels and then they cry if a golf cart gets to close to them it is ridiculous, the bicycle rider is supposed to obey all the rules of the road when riding especially on a road the best advice for you is to stay off the golf cart paths and go to a park Stay off the roads.

Sound like a entitled statement or is it just a AHOLE statement, Unbelieveable!!!!

Cjskld 02-20-2022 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2062500)
Why is it that People driving a golf cart on a golf cart path think they can run bicyclist off the path and swear at them?
I almost seen two carts hit bicyclist today. What are these peoples problem and why do they think they rule the golf cart paths?
Is this entitlement or just complete AHOLES ?
Lets see how much trouble this post causes?

Yesterday, a cyclist weaved from one side of the path to the other. We couldn’t figure out a sensible real for this. As the golf cart line continued to build to about 4 deep, the cyclist continued to weave his “S”pattern down the multi-modal path. We didn’t know what to do. It was obvious now that he was not sharing the path through Chitty-Chatty. We did decide to leave the path to pass, after others did so.
He was a true jerk.

Chellybean 02-20-2022 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cjskld (Post 2063669)
Yesterday, a cyclist weaved from one side of the path to the other. We couldn’t figure out a sensible real for this. As the golf cart line continued to build to about 4 deep, the cyclist continued to weave his “S”pattern down the multi-modal path. We didn’t know what to do. It was obvious now that he was not sharing the path through Chitty-Chatty. We did decide to leave the path to pass, after others did so.
He was a true jerk.

Of course there are jerks on both sides of the equation, but the point is a golf cart can do a great deal of damage to a bike rider, but i never heard of a bike hurting a golf car. do you get my point or do i need to explain further?

VApeople 02-20-2022 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chase219 (Post 2063655)
First of all bicycles and walkers should not be on a golf cart path that is why they are Called golf cart paths Bicycles and walkers have their own paths Strictly for walkers and bicycles, Bicycle and walk on 75 or the FL Turnpike, So many bicycles are flying on the golf cart paths thinking they are invincible Someone is going to get hit one day the way they fly around the tunnels and then they cry if a golf cart gets to close to them it is ridiculous, the bicycle rider is supposed to obey all the rules of the road when riding especially on a road the best advice for you is to stay off the golf cart paths and go to a park Stay off the roads.

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2063667)
Sound like a entitled statement or is it just a AHOLE statement, Unbelieveable!!!!

Chelly, if you were biking or walking on an MMP, would you like it if Chase219 pulled up behind you?

We like to walk the trail around Hogeye Sink even though that means we have to walk along an MMP for a short section. We always walk single file facing the cart traffic and we get off the MMP when we see a golf cart coming.

Michread 02-20-2022 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lisahathy (Post 2062646)
Thank you so much for kindly moving to the right and letting others pass. Many bike riders ride in the center of the path, and the road, and refuse to let golf carts or cars pass even though they are much slower than the speed limit. It would be so easy for them to move to the right and let others go by. Some refuse.

No, I take up the whole lane because when I move to the right of the lane the carts pass me too close!

When they are passing, I then move to the right so they don’t pass so close to me.

They are NOT golf cart paths! They are multi-modal.

MX rider 02-20-2022 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Michread (Post 2063691)
No, I take up the whole lane because when I move to the right of the lane the carts pass me too close!

When they are passing, I then move to the right so they don’t pass so close to me.

They are NOT golf cart paths! They are multi-modal.

I can't believe there are so many idiots that call them golf cart paths. Not real hard to understand the term "multi modal".

Toymeister 02-20-2022 04:47 PM

Here's my running count of cart drivers bad behavior as observed while I cycled, this covers four running days over 93.8 miles mostly on MMPs, pedestrian paths, bridges, tunnels, surface streets (within the bubble) where the only option is the street.

SIX instances of golf cart chicken (it occurred every day). Most were on curves or places of limited view.

THREE instances of cars danger close to bikes where bikes are present and expected to be present. To be crystal clear this is not a count of someone getting close a a cyclist in a diamond lane on a road.

By any measure that's not acceptable. In every instance the cyclist did nothing wrong or unexpected.

To balance my observations, cyclists DID fail to take their lane making it easier for carts to "share a lane", this encourages bad cart drivers to get too close to you. Never leave so much room by staying to the right that a lane share can occur.

Equipment: many did not have a mirror. None had an attention getting auto horn for bikes, source: Loud Bicycle | Car horn for bikes. On pedestrian paths almost none had a bell, spend the 12.99 on Amazon and buy a real one, throw away that two dollar bell that came with your bike. Stop frightening walkers, it's rude.

None of the cyclists where observed doing anything which physically endangered any one. NINE cart and automobile drivers did. So, about every ten miles traveled on your bike you will run across someone who feels that your life has little value.

This is so common that cyclists don't think about it.

Love2Swim 02-20-2022 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Michread (Post 2063691)
No, I take up the whole lane because when I move to the right of the lane the carts pass me too close!

When they are passing, I then move to the right so they don’t pass so close to me.

They are NOT golf cart paths! They are multi-modal.


Thank you! They are NOT golf cart paths, they are trails which are to be used for bicycles, walkers, joggers, and carts. And really they are a poorly designed. You have golf carts zooming around at 20-25mph, walkers going 3 mph, and bicycles 12-15 mph, all sharing the same space. There is bound to be conflict, especially when you have the golf cart drivers thinking the trail belongs to them and cyclists don't belong there.

JMintzer 02-20-2022 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2063605)
Obesity is always a good look on anyone...We GET it...

Who said that? Oh, right... it was you...

JMintzer 02-20-2022 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2063898)
Here's my running count of cart drivers bad behavior as observed while I cycled, this covers four running days over 93.8 miles mostly on MMPs, pedestrian paths, bridges, tunnels, surface streets (within the bubble) where the only option is the street.

SIX instances of golf cart chicken (it occurred every day). Most were on curves or places of limited view.

THREE instances of cars danger close to bikes where bikes are present and expected to be present. To be crystal clear this is not a count of someone getting close a a cyclist in a diamond lane on a road.

By any measure that's not acceptable. In every instance the cyclist did nothing wrong or unexpected.

To balance my observations, cyclists DID fail to take their lane making it easier for carts to "share a lane", this encourages bad cart drivers to get too close to you. Never leave so much room by staying to the right that a lane share can occur.

Equipment: many did not have a mirror. None had an attention getting auto horn for bikes, source: Loud Bicycle | Car horn for bikes. On pedestrian paths almost none had a bell, spend the 12.99 on Amazon and buy a real one, throw away that two dollar bell that came with your bike. Stop frightening walkers, it's rude.

None of the cyclists where observed doing anything which physically endangered any one. NINE cart and automobile drivers did. So, about every ten miles traveled on your bike you will run across someone who feels that your life has little value.

This is so common that cyclists don't think about it.

So, none of the cyclists blew thru stop signs, or ran red lights when they didn't see cars coming?

I see that daily...

I simply shake my head... Knowing that it's their own life they're fooling with...

Davonu 02-20-2022 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2063971)
So, none of the cyclists blew thru stop signs, or ran red lights when they didn't see cars coming?

I see that daily...

I simply shake my head... Knowing that it's their own life they're fooling with...

And we all know that every cart driver comes to a complete stop at every stop sign.

golfing eagles 02-20-2022 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Davonu (Post 2063996)
And we all know that every cart driver comes to a complete stop at every stop sign.

Probably not. On the other hand I've never seen 20 carts blow through a stop or yield sign as a single group, especially with automobile traffic coming at them.

JMintzer 02-21-2022 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Davonu (Post 2063996)
And we all know that every cart driver comes to a complete stop at every stop sign.

Great answer to a question I didn't ask...

JMintzer 02-21-2022 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2063999)
Probably not. On the other hand I've never seen 20 carts blow through a stop or yield sign as a single group, especially with automobile traffic coming at them.

But it's the "entitled golf cart drivers" fault that they do that!

Funny, I do remember seeing a sign somewhere that said, "The Villages... A GOLF CART Community"...

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Chellybean 02-21-2022 10:34 AM

The bottomline is you can't fix stupid or the entitled Golf cart driver untill some biker or jogger/walker punches there lights out.
UGHHHHH unbelieveable the idiot views on this post, of they should bike on the road.
Like that can be a safer resolution, ask the biker that has been hit by a car and see the answer they are given, assuming they servived.

golfing eagles 02-21-2022 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2064214)
The bottomline is you can't fix stupid or the entitled Golf cart driver untill some biker or jogger/walker punches there lights out.
UGHHHHH unbelieveable the idiot views on this post, of they should bike on the road.
Like that can be a safer resolution, ask the biker that has been hit by a car and see the answer they are given, assuming they servived.

I agree with you, as far as you went. Now, would we like to address the entitled bike riders???????

Davonu 02-21-2022 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2064044)
Great answer to a question I didn't ask...

Nobody said you did.

JMintzer 02-21-2022 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2064214)
The bottomline is you can't fix stupid or the entitled Golf cart driver untill some biker or jogger/walker punches there lights out.
UGHHHHH unbelieveable the idiot views on this post, of they should bike on the road.
Like that can be a safer resolution, ask the biker that has been hit by a car and see the answer they are given, assuming they servived.

Just below your "bottom line" are the "idiot" cyclists who ride 2-3 abreast, blocking anyone from passing them and the "idiot" pedestrians, who don't walk facing traffic, also walking 2-3 abreast putting themselves in danger...

And be careful, when you try to "punch out the lights" of some "entitled (possibly the most overused word on this board) golf cart driver. You may rue that day...

JMintzer 02-21-2022 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Davonu (Post 2064230)
Nobody said you did.

Well, you did respond to my question... So there's that...

Happydaz 02-21-2022 06:39 PM

I was chatting with a friend recently when he mentioned that The Villages has become a much less friendly place. He said there is a lot of anger around and I tend to agree him. Nine years ago when I moved here, people seemed less hurried and more polite. Now everyone is in a rush to get somewhere and they show less tolerance and politeness. This thread seems to show the same trend. A lot of angry posts are showing up lately. Why the hostility? I moved here to slow down, enjoy the lifestyle, and make new friends. I didn’t move here to yell at bicyclists, walkers, joggers, golf cart drivers, and auto drivers. Maybe we have grown too fast and too large?

JMintzer 02-21-2022 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Happydaz (Post 2064366)
I was chatting with a friend recently when he mentioned that The Villages has become a much less friendly place. He said there is a lot of anger around and I tend to agree him. Nine years ago when I moved here, people seemed less hurried and more polite. Now everyone is in a rush to get somewhere and they show less tolerance and politeness. This thread seems to show the same trend. A lot of angry posts are showing up lately. Why the hostility? I moved here to slow down, enjoy the lifestyle, and make new friends. I didn’t move here to yell at bicyclists, walkers, joggers, golf cart drivers, and auto drivers. Maybe we have grown too fast and too large?

It's not just TV...

It's nation wide. It's on FaceBook, Twitter. It's coming from our elected representatives, as well. People are people wherever they are...

I wouldn't expect it to be any different here...

Chellybean 02-22-2022 11:29 AM

Yesterday i viewed a golf cart passing a biker going downhill to a tunnel with no way out for the on coming traffic.
There was 10 feet walls on bothsides.
The idiot almost hit head on coming traffic coming out of the tunnel, the oncoming traffic stopped short of the stop line and barely missed this idiot.
Twice I've seen this happen this week, now all the anti bike people try to justify this action.
I call it entitlement AHOLE Person!

JMintzer 02-22-2022 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 2064591)
Yesterday i viewed a golf cart passing a biker going downhill to a tunnel with no way out for the on coming traffic.
There was 10 feet walls on bothsides.
The idiot almost hit head on coming traffic coming out of the tunnel, the oncoming traffic stopped short of the stop line and barely missed this idiot.
Twice I've seen this happen this week, now all the anti bike people try to justify this action.
I call it entitlement AHOLE Person!

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