Originally Posted by Topgun 1776 (Post 2005736)

I know of 3 motorists prosecuted for major felonies including vehicular homicide when the motorist "close shaved" a group of cyclists leading to one's death. The motorist is still in prison. I've witnessed the arrest of a motorist who injured a cyclist during a ride.

Yes, cyclists should obey the laws like anyone else. That goes without question.

Respect others with right to the road. RELAX ..we live in The Villages!!!

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2005524)

Many golf cart operators are rude and operate their carts in dangerous ways.

Really, biker’S are little angels.

Originally Posted by richb9v (Post 2005816)

That is so wrong.

Originally Posted by Davonu (Post 2005564)

Wow, I'll address just a couple of the misconceptions conveyed here. I am a long-time bike rider in TV. I ride almost daily and I use the multimodal paths (MMPs) exclusively.

On my average 10-15 mile ride, I encounter a few stop signs. Other than that, it very rare I have to stop. My ride is almost non-stop riding the whole way.

Even more important, the MMPs are NOT dangerous for bikers. In my opinion, the streets are far more dangerous. When I ride on an MMP, I am totally in control of my own safety. On the street, a biker's life is in the hands of every driver of a car or truck going 40+ mph as they drive by. I will not yield my control of my own safety. I have a couple basic rules I abide by on the MMPs to maintain that control...

I ride a hybrid bike, so if I see a cart or pedestrian that I think might be a conflict somehow, I exit onto the adjacent grass as needed. A piece of cake. Almost all areas have those grass exit areas. If I approach an area without an exit area, I search for approaching carts and adjust my speed as needed if necessary to avoid any conflict. Again, no problem at all.

I have ridden my bike on streets in my previous lives. Now riding my bike on the MPs in TV is one of my favorite parts of living here. Safety is a big reason for that. All the beauty and nature in the environment I ride in is just icing on the cake.

Originally Posted by bobeaston (Post 2005606)

Not to mention that everywhere in the U.S. bikes are street legal and golf carts usually aren't. Bikers have a legal right to use the streets if they please.

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2005838)

Just because it is legal for you to cycle on the roads doesn't make it any safer for you. In an area where there is a large concentration of older diminished capability drivers, this should the last place a bicycle rider would want to ride their bicycle. I give bicyclists room and consideration when driving but I cringe when thinking about riding my bike on the main roads.

Being legal doesn't make you any less dead.

Originally Posted by frank1975 (Post 2005771)

First of all you calling these bikers CLOWNS tells me you don't like them and don't want them there PERIOD. Which makes you the problem. When a group of bikers goes through a ROUND
-ABOUT the WHOLE group has the right away until the WHOLE group goes through. That's the law!!!! Get a grip BOZO!!!!

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2005787)

First of all, some people need to learn how to read. I referred ONLY to cyclists who blow through a yield sign as clowns. I also stated I have no problem with cyclists on the roads. So YOU get a grip.

Now, IF, and it's a big IF the law recognizes a pack of cyclists as a single entity and gives them the right to go through a RB, or intersection or whatever as a whole, thank you for correcting me. I will check it out, since I have my doubts that the law would consider a pack of cyclists a protected class that doesn't have to obey the same traffic laws as all other vehicles.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2005847)

Looks like we are BOTH right and BOTH wrong:

2021 Florida Statutes

316.2065 Bicycle regulations.—

(b) When stopping at a stop sign, persons riding bicycles in groups, after coming to a full stop and obeying all traffic laws, may proceed through the stop sign in a group of 10 or fewer at a time. Motor vehicle operators must allow one such group to travel through the intersection before moving forward.

So 10 or fewer---you are correct
More than 10, I am correct

Call it a draw.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2005787)

First of all, some people need to learn how to read. I referred ONLY to cyclists who blow through a yield sign as clowns. I also stated I have no problem with cyclists on the roads. So YOU get a grip.

Now, IF, and it's a big IF the law recognizes a pack of cyclists as a single entity and gives them the right to go through a RB, or intersection or whatever as a whole, thank you for correcting me. I will check it out, since I have my doubts that the law would consider a pack of cyclists a protected class that doesn't have to obey the same traffic laws as all other vehicles.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2005847)

Looks like we are BOTH right and BOTH wrong:

2021 Florida Statutes

316.2065 Bicycle regulations.—

(b) When stopping at a stop sign, persons riding bicycles in groups, after coming to a full stop and obeying all traffic laws, may proceed through the stop sign in a group of 10 or fewer at a time. Motor vehicle operators must allow one such group to travel through the intersection before moving forward.

So 10 or fewer---you are correct
More than 10, I am correct

Call it a draw.

Originally Posted by bobeaston (Post 2005606)

Not to mention that everywhere in the U.S. bikes are street legal and golf carts usually aren't. Bikers have a legal right to use the streets if they please.