The most interesting aspect of this thread is how posters split into "tribes". I would think most cyclists also drive a car, a golf cart, and at some point are pedestrians as well. Human nature is such that a cyclist is annoyed when coming up on a slow pedestrian on a MMP. When driving his cart, the same cyclist is annoyed at a slow cyclist. When driving his car on BV or Morse, he is annoyed at so called "street legal" carts. And on the interstate he is annoyed at a car driving 50 in the left lane. It all looks like a matter of perspective, but it is all the same people just driving different vehicles at different times.

As far a cyclists on the roads go, I'm fine with it as long as they follow the applicable laws. It just seems from these threads when they come up that at least some cyclists are very knowledgeable of what the law states about cars, but don't seem to want to know what the law says about the cyclists. Also, there are cyclists and there are cyclists. There are some who are very serious and have even passed me in my cart. Then there are quite elderly riders who are wobbling around at 4 mph---and it's very frightening to see one of them headed out onto BV, especially considering some pedestrians could pass them on the MMPs

However, on the MMPs, even though I don't ride I would vote that the cyclists are the best behaved group. Both pedestrians and cart drivers act like they own the path---I just love to be on the MMP and have 3 pedestrians across the whole path walking right at me, yacking away and not moving 1 inch. Likewise, I've seen carts go full speed around a blind curve in the oncoming lane. At least cyclists seem to have a head on their shoulders.

I couldn't find anything that specifically related to yield signs. Do they have to stop individually like cars? Do they get to go in groups of 10 like a stop sign? I don't know, but it would seem odd that the law would allow groups of 10 through stop signs but hold them individually at a yield sign.

No, you STILL don't get it. I don't care if they are on the road, I only want them to obey the law. I cited the law that allows groups of 10 through stop signs. Surely you're not suggesting they should go 30 and disobey the law?

But to answer your question, NO, I don't want to wait "10 seconds" at a dead stop in a RB when I have the right of way----some "bozo" may plow right into my rear. How about those cyclists wait 5 seconds to enter the RB, in accordance with the law? I don't think I'm the one who needs to calm down and relax.

Bike riders
 

As these regular posters are want to do they've taken a legitimate comment/question and turned it into a slam against one group or another: Bikers vs carters, vs walkers, vs runners.

In my opinion there are two issues as it relates to bikers: Single riders and group riders. Don't know if I've seen group riders on the MMPs but if there are, they ought not be there eventhough it's legal to do so. Legal or not, it is unsafe. Single riders on the other hand should ride where they are most comfortable.

I use MMP a lot and have yet to encounter an issue with a biker. Sure, I have to slow down until I can get safely around them but "them's the rules of the road" and wht common courtesy demands. Likewise with walkers/runners though for these folks it's much easier and safer for them to step off the road than for a biker to pull off and stop. Yet,I am always ready to stop if I can not safely swing wide to give them plenty of room whether in cart lane or on MMP.

The main problem with walkers/runners early AM and Late PM is being able to see them as many wear dark clothes and do not carry any kind of light or reflective vest. In the AM on my way to play golf I avoid the MMP where I can for this very reason and remain vigilant for walkers. I drive in the street as long as there are no cars behind me so I don't have to worry about a "pop-up" walker that I couldn't see. Though I know sense is not common, if we all practice it along with the golden rule these and many other issues would go away.

I almost hit one driving down Buena Vista. I went to the sheriffs office on 466 to ask that very question. And the response from the sheriff said because They can. And it’s worldwide. I don’t understand why bikers are allowed to be put themselves in such a dangerous ride. The recreation trails would be perfect for them to use

You have been lucky. My husband was hit by golf carts from behind 4 times on the multi modal lane and hospitalized each time by careless cart drivers over a 11 year period and only once while driving on the roads, again from behind by a reckless driver. Be was a professional racer, so knows the rules and how to ride. The cart drivers all said that they didn't see him in his bright yellow or orange bike shirt. Be careful out there, there is no fully safe place for bike riders, and on a bike you are never fully in control of your own safety anywhere.

Bicyclists on the road
 

I see nothing wrong with bicyclists in the road. It is when you have multiple bikes on the roan and take the entire lane. They need to stay to the side of the road.

It is very possible that they didn't see him. I have seen so many drivers, cart and automobile, that absolutely shouldn't be operating anything more complicated than a tricycle.

You only stop at yield signs if you have to yield to oncoming traffic...

So, the comparison isn't really there...

One bike, or multiple bikes, they still are entitled to their lane...

You may pass them, in your car when it's safe to go around them...

Let's just assume I'm talking about yield signs when traffic IS approaching. If there is no traffic then does a tree falling in the forest make a sound??????

I don't know... But the corollary to that is, "If a man speaks in the forest and his wife isn't there to hear him, is he still wrong?"

I think we ALL know the answer to that one! :icon_wink::icon_wink::icon_wink:

I’m sorry for your husband’s misfortune.

But I think I’ve been “lucky” at least partially due to the riding habits I detailed in my post. I am not on the pavement when a cart is anywhere near me. If that’s luck, I plan to maximize it every time I ride.

Yes they should obey laws and rules of the road, but unfortunately the majority don’t!

I'm totally calm...lol! Enjoying the absurdity of comments. Cyclists are here to stay...in fact, we're growing in numbers everyday.
The majority of owners are cyclists in the new areas south.
They are below 65 and cycle into all areas of TV. How do I know...because I'm one of them.
Whether you let 10 or 30 through at a RB doesn't matter. Just remember, you hit or cause a cyclist to be injured...there's going to be witnesses (a lot of us wear GoPros) and if you could have avoided them...you are going to be held responsible. That's not conjecture...it's fact...and the law.
Enjoy your day ..I'm going out to ride!!!