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villagetinker 09-27-2015 07:53 AM

Monday, I plan to call SECO and see what they are doing with the meters. Back up North, the utility I worked for install AMR (Automatic Meter Reading) equipment, within 2 weeks I noticed a digital clock was gaining time. After much discussion I finally convinced them my old first generation digital clock was responding to the AMR signals.
As for the meter readers, I have seen 2 (my house is in Pinellas, and is just over 2 years old), one is for the water, and they have a rod to read the meters in the water boxes, and the other was SECO, but now that I think about it, I have not seen one for several months.
I will see what SECO says.
As for the AFCI breakers, I have Eaton units, with the white button, and so far NO false tripping.
On a final note I did a web search, and I think I found the number for Eaton consumer circuit breakers, 1-800-326-9513.

Villager Joyce 09-27-2015 08:00 AM

The part my brain can't comprehend is why our house, the three houses across the street, but not the house on either side. If it smart meters, they were all installed within days of each other. If a ham operator, why not our side neighbors, too. It's like a dripping sink. Shoot me. That's a little dramatic. Never mind the shooting me part.

golfing eagles 09-27-2015 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1120225)
The part my brain can't comprehend is why our house, the three houses across the street, but not the house on either side. If it smart meters, they were all installed within days of each other. If a ham operator, why not our side neighbors, too. It's like a dripping sink. Shoot me. That's a little dramatic. Never mind the shooting me part.

Not my area of expertise, but perhaps it could relate to the specific loads on the AFCI in the individual homes at the time the breakers trip. What do those with more expertise think???

Villager Joyce 09-27-2015 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1120233)
Not my area of expertise, but perhaps it could relate to the specific loads on the AFCI in the individual homes at the time the breakers trip. What do those with more expertise think???

This reminds me of Green Acres when Oliver numbered the appliances because Lisa kept throwing the breakers.

tomwed 09-27-2015 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1120225)
The part my brain can't comprehend is why our house, the three houses across the street, but not the house on either side. If it smart meters, they were all installed within days of each other. If a ham operator, why not our side neighbors, too. It's like a dripping sink. Shoot me. That's a little dramatic. Never mind the shooting me part.

Couldn't the neighbors have a different brand of breaker that is not susceptible?

tomwed 09-27-2015 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1120219)
As for the AFCI breakers, I have Eaton units, with the white button, and so far NO false tripping.
On a final note I did a web search, and I think I found the number for Eaton consumer circuit breakers, 1-800-326-9513.

If more than 1 Eaton breaker trips in the same panel doesn't it seem likely that they were made in the same place at the same time? same lot and box

And if all Eaton AFCI breakers were defective and susceptible to nuisance tripping, wouldn't they all be tripping?

It's just some houses. I think that's the common denominator. If there is a check-up, I would look up the houses that were wired by Pike and compare the dates the breakers were installed. The supply company has records when breakers were bought. They must be purchased by the hundreds, don't you think?

Than again I don't know if other brands are also tripping. I also have Eaton breakers, Pike was the electrician and no tripping so far.

CFrance 09-27-2015 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1120383)
Couldn't the neighbors have a different brand of breaker that is not susceptible?

Your neighbors could have different builders too, with different breakers obtained from different sources. Our house and the houses on either side of us all had different builders.

tomwed 09-27-2015 01:25 PM

[QUOTE=CFrance;1120401]Your neighbors could have different builders too, with different breakers obtained from different sources. I don't feel like reading everything - has it been narrowed down to only eaton brand cfgi breakers that are nuisance tripping. If so the next question is when was your house built? What line [ie Premiere] and model?

tag460 09-29-2015 11:57 AM

Exceptional Electric was just here and he changed out 6 Eaton AFCI's breakers. The new breakers are the new version Eaton AFCI's breakers and a Ham Radio should not trip them.

jimbo2012 09-30-2015 12:20 PM

Pikes Elec, did the Eaton replacement for us.

Said Eaton Rep was here at TV they are footing the cost of replacements not the labor.

The contractor has to pay his men to do the swap, he did 7 of ours here, took 15 minutes.

He mentioned I was his 8th call today to swap them out, so it's affecting a lot of folks.

dbussone 09-30-2015 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1122137)
Pikes Elec, did the Eaton replacement for us.



Said Eaton Rep was here at TV they are footing the cost of replacements not the labor.



The contractor has to pay his men to do the swap, he did 7 of ours here, took 15 minutes.



He mentioned I was his 8th call today to swap them out, so it's affecting a lot of folks.


That will add up quickly for the electrical subs. I wonder if the builders will foot part of the expense.

jimbo2012 09-30-2015 02:23 PM

Now I just was told by a friend that Eaton was paying a flat fee of $40 per breaker to the sub.

So draw your own opinions

champion6 09-30-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1122137)
Pikes Elec, did the Eaton replacement for us. Said Eaton Rep was here at TV they are footing the cost of replacements not the labor. <snip>

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1122172)
Now I just was told by a friend that Eaton was paying a flat fee of $40 per breaker to the sub. So draw your own opinions

Maybe the cost of each is $40. Maybe just an example of saying the same thing two different ways.

davekroupa 10-01-2015 01:05 PM

WE have lived here for three years in the village of Charlotte. This was happening to us. We called the warranty department and three days later Pike electric showed up and replaced some breakers. No charge, they know what is happening. Call or email the warranty department.

villagetinker 10-01-2015 03:18 PM

Just got off the phone with SECO, SECO has no Smart Meters in the villages. They do have some AMR (Automatic Meter Reading), but these are still read by a meter reader, and none of their meters have transmitters. They did have a few Smart Meters 1-2 years ago, but these are in the process of being removed.
So bottom line the SECO meter on the side of your house is not causing the AFCI breakers to trip. On a side note, when they were using a few Smart Meters, they communicated on the same frequencies as cell phones, so if these were causing the problem, every time you made a cell call, you would trip your breakers.
NOTE: If SECO told someone else that they are looking into the problem, then they are looking into some other cause.
I hope this helps.


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