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NatureBoy 05-07-2022 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 2093263)
I don't think the entertainment square is the Developers responsibility since it is there for the enjoyment of the public therefore is the responsibility of the residents to maintain it.

The problem here is that The Developer built the stuff and turned it over to the residents to maintain. If TD did a bad job building it, then they should bear some level of responsibility for fixing it.

JoMar 05-07-2022 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2093309)
So if you think the residents are responsible for the maintaining the squares then they should be for residents and guests only. But then TV would lose the Sumter County contribution of $150,000 for entertainment at LSL and BPS.

That's not what I said. But, twist it whichever way you want.

dewilson58 05-07-2022 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 2093263)
Another mountain growing from that ant hill.

Bingo

Bilyclub 05-07-2022 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 2093345)
That's not what I said. But, twist it whichever way you want.

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 2093263)
I don't think the entertainment square is the Developers responsibility since it is there for the enjoyment of the public therefore is the responsibility of the residents to maintain it.

You said the entertainment square is the responsibility of the residents so the public can enjoy the square. No spin whatsoever.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-07-2022 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2092978)
Per CDD Website for Brownwood:

Maintenance of the infrastructure is provided through an annual assessment to commercial property owners based upon square footage of the benefitting properties.


:shrug::shrug::shrug:

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2092987)
Not sure how that addresses something that isn't maintenance. Demolition and removal of non-functional outbuildings is not "infrastructure" and isn't "maintenance."

Again - the decorative, non-functional windmill and the decorative, non-functional water tower are not infrastructure. And removal and replacement of these decorative additions is not "maintenance." You don't maintain something by demolishing it and building a new one. That would fall under the category of "replacement."

Not infrastructure, not maintenance. That rule doesn't apply to this situation.

dewilson58 05-08-2022 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2093390)
Again - the decorative, non-functional windmill and the decorative, non-functional water tower are not infrastructure.

Actually they are infrastructure.

Also, landscape is part of infrastructure.

Landscape Architects design soft and hard infrastructures.
From LA site:
Landscape infrastructure is an evolutionary approach to strategizing economically and environmentally sustainable multipurpose infrastructure systems, reversing urban sprawl and regenerating our invaluable natural resources.

As the world faces an urgent need for new and repaired infrastructure systems, design and planning professionals have the crucial opportunity to reimagine networks that support multiple uses and functions. Multipurpose infrastructure conserves land, shares the financial load of its development, restores previously overlooked or damaged natural ecologies, reinforces healthy transit options, and provides public access to much needed open space.

rustyp 05-08-2022 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2093480)
Actually they are infrastructure.

Also, landscape is part of infrastructure.

Landscape Architects design soft and hard infrastructures.
From LA site:
Landscape infrastructure is an evolutionary approach to strategizing economically and environmentally sustainable multipurpose infrastructure systems, reversing urban sprawl and regenerating our invaluable natural resources.

As the world faces an urgent need for new and repaired infrastructure systems, design and planning professionals have the crucial opportunity to reimagine networks that support multiple uses and functions. Multipurpose infrastructure conserves land, shares the financial load of its development, restores previously overlooked or damaged natural ecologies, reinforces healthy transit options, and provides public access to much needed open space.

Critical underlying infrastructure - high maintenance:

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dewilson58 05-08-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2093496)
Critical underlying infrastructure - high maintenance:

Attachment 93645

I can hear the song. :)

Linda Henning-Betty Jo Bradley.......................the only living cast member.

Lindsyburnsy 05-08-2022 11:00 AM

Wait until Floridians have to pay for when Disney is no longer it's own governmental unit. That was a super smart move. We showed them!

Bilyclub 05-08-2022 11:02 AM

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Took some pics of the problem the other day. Looks like there was a quick fix tried at one time. Somebody forgot that wood will wick moisture if not sealed.

dewilson58 05-08-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 2093550)
Wait until Floridians have to pay for when Disney is no longer it's own governmental unit. That was a super smart move. We showed them!

Hopefully you are more knowledgeable than what you are stating. :ohdear:

Boston1945 05-08-2022 02:04 PM

Please let's tear it down and move on. Why is this such a huge issue? oh, wait it's going to cost $$$$ everyone in the district. Forget the rebuilding part.

Bilyclub 05-08-2022 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston1945 (Post 2093587)
Please let's tear it down and move on. Why is this such a huge issue? oh, wait it's going to cost $$$$ everyone in the district. Forget the rebuilding part.


Just wait until the lighthouse at LSL needs to be replaced next year.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-08-2022 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2093552)
Took some pics of the problem the other day. Looks like there was a quick fix tried at one time. Somebody forgot that wood will wick moisture if not sealed.

In other words, it's an ongoing problem they knew about (if they didn't know about it, they wouldn't have known to try and fix it). They chose to apply an inefficient, or inappropriate patch, and then either chose to ignore it when it got worse, or didn't follow up to...
(what's that word again?)

(oh yeah)

MAINTAIN.

Two Bills 05-09-2022 06:24 AM

After looking at Bilyclub's pictures, I have had properly treated timber last longer in the ground, than that stuff above ground level.


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