We need vote to just remove or replace, the boards don’t speak for majority of villagers, but have special interest involved IMO. If majority want to pay and spend the money then rest who don’t has to suck it up. I never go to brownwood so naturally I would vote to remove and be done with it.

Yearly tax assessment will though.

Wood used cost more than 2 by 4s. Then, there the labor and the bid to the work, now add liability, cost of doing business and equipment it will easily in the end be close to million IMO.

I suggest they tear down these structures and replace them with Sunbrellas. The Sun in that square can be pretty intense in the evening. Also change the hours to 6-10 and change happy hour back to 2 hrs. Including alcohol. JMHO

Thank goodness the water wheel at LSL was spared when it needed repair.

greed!!!

Isn't that always the answer? :popcorn:

They have bleachers in Brownwood...

If you look at the bottom of the water tower you can see the shoddy work done. Either they botched it during construction or a cheap fix was done. The windmill itself appears to be functioning properly so all you need is a new tower. Doesn't the District have maintenance people on their payroll or do they contract out everything?

Aermotor Windmill Company - Wind-Powered Water Pumps

What is the "significance" of a water tower (that does not function?) Take it down - you won't miss it in a couple months. $225K is still a lot of money.

The tower and the windmill look "nice", but in the whole scheme of things, it's a waste of time, money and materials.
If the PWAC "owns" the tower, then they shouldn't be asked by a different entity to replace it, or pay for the replacement.

I think that someone is taking advantage, thinks of it as an opportunity, and wants some "easy money".

I like the windmill and water tower. But I think someone needs to question this expenditure.

I remember when they were built. Are we going to be on the hook for a quarter of a million every 5 or 6 years? Those timbers should last longer. Also, if they need to be replaced, take bids. Don't just take someone's word for it that they cost that much.I built a 7000 ft timber frame house of timbers like those used in the water tower for about $750,000. So, when someone tells me the demolition and reconstruction of that windmill will cost $250,000, I am going to take some convincing.

Don't fall for the click-bait...........it's estimated to cost. Quotes/bids have not been requested.

My $0.02 since I'm going to be a Villager in a couple months so I need to get some complaining practice in:

One would expect structures like this to use pressure treated lumber and/or be made of materials that would last more than ten years. If The Developer built this as part of the decorations for the square, and then turned the maintenance over to the CDD (or whoever), I think the CDD would have a legitimate gripe that The Developer did not build them properly, in accordance with industry best practices, i.e. did a lousy job and should have known better. The dollar amount is probably not high enough to get too many lawyers involved, but it seems fair that the original builder (The Developer) should bear the burden of replacing it.

On the other hand, if there was some sort of maintenance that was required/expected to keep the structures healthy, and the CDD didn't perform that, then the fault is theirs.

Now, do _I_ want _my_ tax dollars going to replace something that is purely decorative? Not really. I'd rather see the money go into something functional - someone mentioned shading.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

Don’t worry be happy

Yes, more of a joke. No one knows what will happen to Spanish Springs.

The Developer knows all

This is exactly why we should never make decisions by popular vote. People don't like spending money unless they are directly and personally benefited. Take a ride through one of the communities that do that and see the results.

We've been told windmills kill thousands of birds and cause cancer. Time for it to go.

WaterTowrt
 

If this was put up by the developer’s contractor, using inferior products, the developer and the contractor should be required to replace them.

The common denominator in a lot of things like this (premature road degradation being one), was the developer using sweetheart-deal/sole-source contractors. Since the developer was able to hand over most of the maintenance once the infrastructure was built (at highly inflated valuations), I predict a drip-by-drip of similar premature failures - in coming years.

You won’t be off the koolaid for at least 3 or 4 years.

Two multi-million workshops.

You just don’t get a vote on everything in life………

Details will be available in The Daily Sun
 

I believe that the Developer sold the water towel/windmill to his Brownwood Community Development District. In other words, he sold it to himself at a price and under terms and conditions that he determined. Now Villagers are responsible, through their amenity fees, to pay for replacing the rot.

I'm sure that further details will be available in The Daily Sun.

That will be as soon as they hire a living breathing editor who is allowed to do their job.

Their editor is doing his job, which is to publish exactly what the Developer tells him to. BTW, I was being sarcastic about the Daily Sun in my last post. There is no way that The Daily Sun will publish anything that reflects unfavorably upon its owner (the Developer) or upon The Villages.

When I’m paying I should. But that would eliminate nepotism, favoritism, and brother in law….

Get over it. People
 

J , M and J...isn't anyone happy just being able to live here...all I hear on this listserv is Bitch, Bitch Bitch...GET OVER IT PEOPLE....NOONE IS FORCING YOU TO RESIDE HERE...we are ALL free to return to the SH some of you apparently came from...we just lease our space here until our lease runs out...enjoy what's left
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QUOTE=Rsenholzi;2092260]Are you kidding me? They are the ones making the money . We are the retired ones living on a fixed income. They use a shoddy company to lay in the piping under the roads in the villas and we have to pay for it. They are making money from the businesses in the squares- not only from the rents but additional money from a percentage of what they sell and we have to pay for the upkeep. They keep trying to taking parking spaces from the squares for their rental apartments and who loses out - the people who visit the squares to keep the businesses running because during snowbird season there is no parking. Movie Theaters disappeared during COVID because people couldn’t go and movies weren’t being made so they closed 2 of them! Their plan - to make more apartments and lose more parking on the squares. Mark my words - their plan is to close the squares so they don’t have to pay for the entertainment. They already refused to renew the contract with the police so there will be no police presence in the squares- another thing we are losing. They don’t care about the people - all they care about is lining their pockets with the green stuff[/QUOTE]

Wtf???
 

Oh My Gawwwd people! Quit complaining. It’s like every friggin’ week there’s one more thing to bitch about.
Chill and just enjoy yourselves or flee to cheaper areas. I came for the fun environment. Not for the cheap cost of living. 😎

Yet you stay

Should have added the world independent to the editor's position

You think? You learned that since Oct…..

Maybe replace with solar panels.

The editor?

I worked on the Big Dig in Boston.

I’m on board with that but why not three hours ? 4-7

Thank you it was a nightmare going to logan airport to and from using the Sumner and Callahan tunnels.

Join date on ToTV doesn't always correlate to when someone moved in...

Or, even if they actually live in TV...