Originally Posted by crilemd (Post 2092632)

J , M and J...isn't anyone happy just being able to live here...all I hear on this listserv is Bitch, Bitch Bitch...GET OVER IT PEOPLE....NOONE IS FORCING YOU TO RESIDE HERE...we are ALL free to return to the SH some of you apparently came from...we just lease our space here until our lease runs out...enjoy what's left
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2092678)

The editor?

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2092694)

Join date on ToTV doesn't always correlate to when someone moved in...

Or, even if they actually live in TV...

Originally Posted by mlmarr (Post 2092776)

wow looks like it time for some to move..relax enjoy your days left on this fine earth and living in the Villages.. a law suit would be a whole lot more then a rebuild if someone was hurt .. I can be you it will be built back better.. just like America someday.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2092781)

Is it not wrong they built an inferior tower and now that it has to be replaced the builder has no responsibility?

Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2092159)

its going to cost us .... $225k to tear down and replace the water tower and windmill in brownwood. the wood is all rotten. just tear it down . somebodys brother inlaw is making a lot of money.

Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2092194)

The Developer is under such financial distress maybe we should all pitch in to help.

Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2092827)

If they did not use the proper wood at the beginning and I certainly believe that the county and the township permitting departments should be sued as well as the original contractors engineers and architects as it was the most foolish thing not to use pressure treated and insect treated woods . Has citizens you are paying good money to the township and counties to watch over the permitting and building of amenities and structures. If they are not doing their jobs then the township should end up being sued and paid for replacing these or does anyone else have any common Sense ideas and how to get things done here. I certainly wouldn't trust the builders with my home without getting something inspected by the county and townships building departments.

Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2092827)

If they did not use the proper wood at the beginning and I certainly believe that the county and the township permitting departments should be sued as well as the original contractors engineers and architects as it was the most foolish thing not to use pressure treated and insect treated woods . Has citizens you are paying good money to the township and counties to watch over the permitting and building of amenities and structures. If they are not doing their jobs then the township should end up being sued and paid for replacing these or does anyone else have any common Sense ideas and how to get things done here. I certainly wouldn't trust the builders with my home without getting something inspected by the county and townships building departments.

Originally Posted by KYtoTV2021 (Post 2092891)

The Morse family is worth 100s of millions of dollars.......and growing.
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2092925)

Not even close. :clap2:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2092172)

If $225K is the actual cost to replace both structures, it sounds like a bargain to me. Decoration at a square is a useful function. What's the big deal?

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2092937)

Thank you. My feelings.

Go look at any other senior communities around the country, and see what "not doing maintenance" looks like. The fact that The Villages are kept in good repair and updated help our home values stay up. The Villages are attractive and that is a big part of why I moved here.

Originally Posted by spd2918 (Post 2092347)

I encourage all the chronic complainers to sell their "shoddily built" homes immediately. Since people want to move here you will make a huge profit (that evil thing the developer seeks).

Risk all your money, start your own village, and be happy. You are obviously much smarter than the developer. But you might find people will bitch and complain about your every move.

(Sorry for being so salty... I've been sick for a week)

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2092951)

I completely agree. I expect the only reason they stay is so they have something to bitch about. If they went anywhere else it would be perfect and they would be bored.

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2092289)

Both are owned by the Brownwood CDD (a unit of local government not a private entity - aka the developer) and are included in Exhibit A of the Project Wide Agreement as are most of the public/entertainment areas in both LSL and BW. So, under the terms of the Project Wide Agreement the maintenance will fall to the Project Wide Fund. They are no different than many other structures and facilities in the community owned by all the CDDs that fall under the agreement, the key difference in my mind is that these are purely ornamental and have no functional need or requirement.

Knowing well the current PWF budget and having seen the proposed budget that is still being worked for next fiscal year I'm still on the fence with this "emergency?" budget item. How did they get in this condition so fast? Why are we only just now seeing the problem? How does a real windmill last decades on a farm but just 10 years in the town square? What will be lost if both are just raised and not rebuilt? How many residents have ever noticed they even existed? What are the legal responsibilities for the Project Wide Agreement to keep/replace the feature? These and many more unanswered questions need to be answered.

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2092937)

Thank you. My feelings.

Go look at any other senior communities around the country, and see what "not doing maintenance" looks like. The fact that The Villages are kept in good repair and updated help our home values stay up. The Villages are attractive and that is a big part of why I moved here.

Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2092975)

Maintenance can be tearing down the two structures and planting something there. The windmill is cool but not worth the money to rebuild.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2092978)

Per CDD Website for Brownwood:

Maintenance of the infrastructure is provided through an annual assessment to commercial property owners based upon square footage of the benefitting properties.


:shrug::shrug::shrug:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2092978)

Per CDD Website for Brownwood:

Maintenance of the infrastructure is provided through an annual assessment to commercial property owners based upon square footage of the benefitting properties.


:shrug::shrug::shrug:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2092978)

Per CDD Website for Brownwood:

Maintenance of the infrastructure is provided through an annual assessment to commercial property owners based upon square footage of the benefitting properties.


:shrug::shrug::shrug:

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2092990)

If this is true and as simple as stated which I am not challenging why are we concerned. It's not our money. Just like Katie Belle's. Suck it up - it's not yours to control. It's so appropriate it involves fake water again.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2092978)

Per CDD Website for Brownwood:

Maintenance of the infrastructure is provided through an annual assessment to commercial property owners based upon square footage of the benefitting properties.


:shrug::shrug::shrug:

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2092991)

Well, you must be new here - you are asking "why complain"?

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2092990)

If this is true and as simple as stated which I am not challenging why are we concerned. It's not our money. Just like Katie Belle's. Suck it up - it's not yours to control. It's so appropriate it involves fake water again.

Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2092166)

Oh we're going to pay!
“ The Project Wide Advisory Committee will be asked to consider an emergency budget resolution to fund the demolition and restoration of the windmill and the water tower, which have no useful function and are purely decorative.


The windmill and water tower at Brownwood Paddock Square will have to be torn down and rebuilt at a cost of $225,000.
The amount of the demolition and restoration of the windmill and water tower is estimated at $225,000. The money would come from maintenance assessment fees paid by residents of The Villages living south of County Road 466.”