100% my error.

Confused you with Topspinner.

All you Top's all look the same.

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Selectively..........yep.
HHills is old news, it's a large pain to you, not to me because TOPics (see how I threw in Top) are unrelated.
Anything I state about a windmill vs. HHills will not make you happy.
So I might as well avoid beating my head against a wall.
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I noticed the decay at the base of the huge wooden posts a few years ago

surprised that it's taken this long to realize something needed to be done

Way to go, you cracked the case. They planned all along to build thousands of houses, rec centers, golf courses, etc . in order to camouflage their goal of ripping off the AAC for the decorative water tower after 10 years.

Touche'

PWAC not the AAC - AAC has more experience dealing with the developer.

Actually they are kind of related, because they point out a blatant double standard. If the PWAC or AAC tears something down, they are required to replace it to preserve the overall “look and feel” of our community - the very reason many of our residents came to live in the Villages in the first place and call it home. Their words, not mine. Hacienda Hills is just an example of how the double standard is applied versus the Brownwood windmill and water tower.

Understand your view, but disagree...............totally different.

Since both were non functional it would fiscally responsible not to replace them. My brother in law converted his 40 year old windmill to electric and powers his barn and house with power also an electric pump in pond for irrigation.

In other words one side has all the power.

Yes, and that one side is called THE OWNERS.


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Then, the owners CDD can elect not to rebuild it.

Have you took the leap yet…..:)

Those 2 structures (water tower and windmill) are not on the square. No different than the kiddie play park that is near Lake Sumter Landing square.

?? Have you ever been to Brownwood Paddock Square? Those two structures most certainly were on the square. See google maps for proof.

Disagree, the owners of the non functional windmill and water tower don’t appear to have the power to determine the cost effectiveness of replacing worthless aesthetic only features that seemingly only help the other party sell homes. Unless your claiming the developer defacto owns the CDD’s.

Yep, my error I was thinking about the large water tower at the entrance. The one made from corrugated metal.

Lo Siento

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They can, but they signed a contract and they need for it to expire.

The owners do have the power, subject to the contract they signed.

Once the contract expires, then there will be no "subject to".

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Agree, hopefully the CDD’s have learned from their mistakes and will never again agree to acquire assets from the developer under terms that limit the control of their ownership. Certainly, the developers legal council would never let them enter into such a fiscally irresponsible contractual agreement. Yet they expect the CDD’s to acquire assets from them under those terms. That’s the double standard I have been referring to.

History repeats itself. 2008 and $40 mil ago a maintenance problem ..........

The Brownwood CDD owns the square. The developer appoints the Brownwood CDD board. The fault lies in the PWAC agreement which is why CDD 7 is trying to get changes made to that contract.

The windmill and water tower are part of the charm of the Square. Not much else in the way of a landmark. They should be rebuilt. The water wheel and steam clock in LSL would be history with the why waste the money mentality.

I have been a party to three purchases from the Developer for over $300 million. It is my view that it's an all or nothing vote for the CDD boards as staff negotiates the agreement with the Developer. As an example, I wanted to have NSCUDD signage on the water towers that NSCUDD owns and operates to let people know who is responsible for them. In the purchase agreement it states that nothing can be changed from the way it was purchased by NSCUDD. Now, I don't mind having the Developers logo (The Villages) on the tower but just wanted to add information someplace as to who now owns the water tower. It can't be done even though a public agency owns the towers after paying millions for it. I love most everything in the Villages but there are a few things that I question and see a need for changes.

Totally agree

And it’s those few things that are blabbed about on here………. ad nauseum.

Along with the replies

So we should just behave like a herd of sheep? Sorry not going to happen.

Feel free to scroll on by responses you do not care for. Funny do not criticize you for your responses.

The owner is not the developer. The residents of the Villages purchased all kinds of stuff from the developer under all kinds of restrictions that most of us have no idea about.

Unfortunately most of us have no idea why CDD7 wants to make changes. From what I know the PWAC agreement is very one sided favoring the developer.

Wish they would give out more info on this.

Even worse than complaining about complaining. Complaining about those who have the audacity to care enough about the community they live in to not take everything at face value and question things.

Is Brownwood in Wildwood?
 

Why not ask Wildwood to chip in? I live on the south end and we are in Wildwood. I pay $1000 property tax to Wildwood, in addition to my taxes to the State and County. If Wildwood gets approximately $1,000 from each house plus all the new houses they should be rolling in dough. The Villages asks (??) Wildwood to annex the new building areas before the houses are started, and they gladly do it.

BTW, who is the mayor of Wildwood and what is his day job?

To question is good. To put the opinion in a loop. So it can be repeated and applied to way more than one topic is just bitching on and on and usually comes around to bashing the Developer. Which in turn is really just disparaging the community.

So you think we can only complain about one topic only.

This is a great place to live but like nothing else in life nothing is perfect and nothing wrong with constructive criticism.

BTW this is a discussion board and we are allowed to make more than one posts on a topic as long as we did it in a respectful manner.

Only 1000. I paid 3 thousand in Marion landfill.

Tear it down and set on it till contract up.

Did the District attach Exhibit A which they claim to list what the PWAC is responsible for?

doesn't work that way.........since it's already down, if they don't replace they have a liability exposure.

The information you request was not attached but can be found here on the District website -> Village Community Development Districts

Looking at the third amended and restated (https://www.districtgov.org/committe...ated%20IGA.pdf... , it's a 20 year agreement starting ??? and states " a lot of legalize that I would have a lawyer lead me through. No mention of windmills or water towers except to state " Paddock Square" is included.

Hope this helps someone.

I understand the agreement is up for renewal but is there a reason it should be for 20 years? A lot can happen during that time.

Yet they had to tear it down to avoid potential liability exposure. A no win situation.