Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2094251)

They blamed it on 10 years of humidity, rain, and sun.

Here's a clue that they're LYING:

Puerto Rico has more humid, rainy weather, more often, and more exposure to sun than central Florida. El Viejo San Juan has wooden doors dating back over 100 years that are still securing the buildings they're hinged to.

Does San Juan use magic doors? I'm guessing probably not.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2094253)

Well if the sun had a living, breathing editor who was allowed to report the facts we would have an entirely different newspaper. Wonder what percentage of people reading the article believed what they were saying?

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2094193)

I think we should have 150 posts on gin costing $2/bottle more than last year.

Gin will only last a month.

New mill & tower will cost $2/person and will last another 10 years.


:clap2::clap2::clap2:

Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2094073)

The Project Wide Advisory Committee on Monday unanimously agreed to allocate up to $20,000 for the demolition of the decorative windmill and water tower at Brownwood Paddock Square.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2094208)

Gin will only last a month? Is that really true?

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2094320)

Championship golf course bridges South of 466a are being replaced.
Treated wood, 10 years.
:popcorn::popcorn:

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2094319)

A month, 2 weeks - what’s the difference??

Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2094764)

Will they tear the structures down under the cover of darkness or do it during the day on the 19th of May ?

Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 2097396)

The following was received by me from the Village District manager Kenny Blocker ->

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2094320)

Championship golf course bridges South of 466a are being replaced.
Treated wood, 10 years.
:popcorn::popcorn:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2097405)

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2097406)

But the mill & tower did have dogs and old people peeing on them at ground level (notice, that's where the rot is). :clap2:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2097444)

[SIZE="1"]Interesting document but one question.

If heartwood is so good why is it not more commonly used for outdoor structures?

When I rebuilt an outdoor stair rail in our old home used pressure treated lumber and 25 years later it was still intact.

If heartwood is so great why did it fail so quickly?[/SIZE]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 2097396)

The following was received by me from the Village District manager Kenny Blocker ->

Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2097428)

I'll enter it as Exhibit #1-5 in the official record.

Originally Posted by Driver8 (Post 2092325)

They're concentrating on phasing out Spanish Springs now.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2097459)

You need to educate yourself on treated lumber of today, not 20 years ago. It's changed.

Bonifay, Belle, Evans bridges made out of treated wood are being replaced.....same vintage as Brownwood.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2094208)

For some things the principle is more important than the dollars and do think this is one of the times.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2094253)

Well if the sun had a living, breathing editor who was allowed to report the facts we would have an entirely different newspaper. Wonder what percentage of people reading the article believed what they were saying?

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2097591)

Read a very interesting article on the process and the different grades of pressure treated lumber.

My guess

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2097595)

Tear down the tower and put up a parking lot"

Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2097602)

So why do people bother reading it? Some posters probably feel like paying for it to find topics to gripe about.

I would hate to only be happy when I was miserable.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2097605)

"different Grades" = Splits & Knots.

"My guess" = :MOJE_whot:

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2092289)

Both are owned by the Brownwood CDD (a unit of local government not a private entity - aka the developer) and are included in Exhibit A of the Project Wide Agreement as are most of the public/entertainment areas in both LSL and BW. So, under the terms of the Project Wide Agreement the maintenance will fall to the Project Wide Fund. They are no different than many other structures and facilities in the community owned by all the CDDs that fall under the agreement, the key difference in my mind is that these are purely ornamental and have no functional need or requirement.

Knowing well the current PWF budget and having seen the proposed budget that is still being worked for next fiscal year I'm still on the fence with this "emergency?" budget item. How did they get in this condition so fast? Why are we only just now seeing the problem? How does a real windmill last decades on a farm but just 10 years in the town square? What will be lost if both are just raised and not rebuilt? How many residents have ever noticed they even existed? What are the legal responsibilities for the Project Wide Agreement to keep/replace the feature? These and many more unanswered questions need to be answered.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2097607)

I heard they are going to install a diving platform & small pool.

Villagers can take a dive during band breaks.

:coolsmiley:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2097640)

My opinion is someone used the incorrect grade of pressure treated lumber causing it to fail prematurely. Irrelevant now.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2097607)

I heard they are going to install a diving platform & small pool.

Villagers can take a dive during band breaks.

:coolsmiley:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2097674)

Then the CDD can elect to not replace it if the own it.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2097681)

From the CDD:
False:
The Project Wide Advisory Committee can choose to demolish and NOT replace the
Brownwood Windmill and Water Tower to save money.
True:
The Project Wide Agreement requires the Project Wide Advisory Committee to utilize the
Project Wide Fund to maintain common infrastructure to design intent standards. This means
they must maintain, repair and restore infrastructure as close as possible to the original
landscape as-builts, architect plans and other design documents.

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2097687)

but you left out other key parts

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2097676)

My opinion the didn’t use pressure treated lumber.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2097690)

which was correcting your post stating, "Then the CDD can elect to not replace it if the own it."