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Altavia 05-22-2021 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1948664)
Baloney. Noise from roadways travel hundreds of feet and a couple of houses will not mitigate it. I used to be on a planning board when issues like this came up in developments. You would need hundreds of feet of thick evergreen trees to make any mitigation noticeable ...

Not correct, a structure provides ten told noise reduction over landscaping. That's why the build sound barriers.

DAVES 05-22-2021 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by golfgal44 (Post 1947924)
I am looking to move to T.V. Currently, new sales are in Citrus Grove. I just put a deposit on a lot on danielson loop behind a retention pond in line with hole number 3 on the southern oaks golf course. After placing the deposit, I noticed that there was a light green area on the map which indicates non village property. It is located a little below hole number 5 on the golf course. I asked my salesman what will be put there. He keeps saying he is looking into it. Within two days, I must wire transfer my next check to him. I am concerned. I watched a drone video and it looks like the green area will be a power station. It seems to be about 1/4 mile away from my location on Danielson on loop. How dangerous is that. Will there be high towers which will be seen from my location? Also, wondering if I will hear noise from the tpke. And the new ezell rec center, something I did not see originally. If I cancel now, I would only lose $2500 versus $10,000. Please help!

May I point out, posters are their OPINION. The money and the decision are yours.

I'm not an attorney. From what I understand real estate law all that matters is what is in writing. I will look into that is a common stall. I do not know where you are. As far as a power station, IF, THAT IS SO I sure you can contact government offices and find out.
PHONE? You will likely get a more valid response if you set up an appointment and stop by.

Again, I am not an attorney. "I will only lose $2500 versus $10,000," only if you agree to do that. Seems to me if your claim is so, they concealed information.

golfgal44 05-22-2021 10:13 AM

Agreed. We’ve been looking since September.

M2inOR 05-22-2021 10:26 AM

We live in Marsh Bend, in the middle of Lowlands golf course.

We are 1 mile from the turnpike. We hear the traffic at night and early morning from our east facing lanai. Many homes and roads between us and the turnpike.

There are Villas halfway between us and the turnpike. Took a long time to sell them but they are now sold.

There are view lots on Lawler Loop between us and the Turnpike. Took a long time to sell those too. There is a spec designer home listed for $700+K and several pending. Soon, a few more spec homes will come to market. Originally offered as Designer Homesite lots, but they did not sell quickly. Suddenly they are, at a premium.

I did a quick look at your home site. You definitely will hear the turnpike. Only you will know if the noise bothers you. We wouldn't consider it.

Also, across the pond is a map area currently colored green; not a preserve, but likely will be future homesites. An aerial drone view will show the infrastructure that is being developed right now.

Hire Don Wiley, Goldwingnut to video your site.

Of course, this is all my opinion.

DAVES 05-22-2021 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1948079)
There is no "perfect" lot, all have compromises depending on your preferences.

The average Villager moves 3 times. The way prices are increasing, the financial risk is low if you find a location you like better 1+ year from now.

Perhaps, I am different from others. Average Villager moves 3x. I know two that are on number 4. My view do it right the first time and I do not need to pack all my stuff etc. Prices are increasing ok fine so you got more for your home than you paid for it. Reality, assuming you will buy in the villages, or realty, anywhere, the replacement has also gone up in cost.

Pat2015 05-22-2021 11:01 AM

If you determine that your lot is an issue for any reason, you are allowed to transfer to another lot one time without any penalty. You can also use the money to buy a spec house, and you have up to a year to make your decision as to what you want your deposit money to go towards! Good luck!

golfgal44 05-22-2021 11:01 AM

#1, garages are for cars, not “stuff”. We happen to enjoy our collector car, like many of the people in t.v. do, as evidenced by the many vintage car clubs that exist. This is is one of the many reasons we are relocating to t.v.
#2, larger garage also allows for workshop space eliminating the need to pay every Tom, Dick, and Harry to repair a pipe, when one is handy enough.
#3, it is difficult to visit a lot three times a day when you live 2000 miles away. The way the t.v. Sales are today, the lot is here today, and gone today. There is no time given for investigating. This is what we are doing now, as evidenced by my question.
We will be visiting in a few weeks but thought we could get the opinions of t.v. residents who are more familiar with the area. We appreciate everyone's response so far.

Homer49 05-22-2021 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by M2inOR (Post 1948795)

Also, across the pond is a map area currently colored green; not a preserve, but likely will be future homesites. An aerial drone view will show the infrastructure that is being developed right now.
….

Your guess is correct about the area across the pond from OP’s lot. In the latest “Continuing the Dream” video by TV on Sawgrass Grove there are a couple of drone scenes that show OP’s lot, the Laurel Oak Course and Sawgrass Grove from the air. There are already streets and utilities in the area across the pond from her.

TNGary 05-22-2021 09:53 PM

OP, a lot of good feedback on this post. Many great and smart folks in TV's. I have move numerous times with transfers, upsizing, downsizing, etc. Most of the deals that slipped by me, perhaps late on a bid, etc, in retrospect I am glad they did, but not at the time. This lot does not appear to be a one of a kind, appears your already questioning it now. If you pull the plug and walk, I believe you will look back with no regrets. Please keep this post updated on your final decision. Your new family would like to know!!! best

WEHOWL 05-23-2021 07:28 AM

Graciegirl - you are a wise soul. Your posts enriched reading, always.

WEHOWL 05-23-2021 07:34 AM

Yes! Often, the sales representative does not know and that too, is the individual's responsibility.

WEHOWL 05-23-2021 07:44 AM

You do not need to justify your garage/home choices to anybody. I am sorry you feel you must. If people have nothing else to do but judge, they have too much time on their hands and should be enjoying the villages lifestyle and all of the wonderful benefits this place offers - wishing you the best of luck! Hoping you find that garage - it is possible. Remember, your lot of choice seems like the only one right available at this moment, and there are hundreds, upon hundreds of homes being built!

vintageogauge 05-23-2021 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by golfgal44 (Post 1948513)
We have been looking for a while now. First for a spec home. Then for lots. The big problem for us is finding a lot/home with a 3 or 4 car garage or a lot that will hold that size garage. We don’t want a corner lot, or a kissing lanai, and we want a view. Very tough combination to find. We liked Hawkins and fenney but we just missed the boat on fenney. Lots were mostly sold when we first came down to look. At the time Hawkins was available we were still look for spec homes. Now that we realized we have to build, citrus grove is the only area in the near future, with lots large enough to hold a 3 or 4 car garage.

Hammock at Fenney will be building in the very near future and there will be both view and golf course lots available there.

stebooo 05-23-2021 09:43 PM

Imo would not give money till I have WRITTEN answer. I don't trust those salesman. Have you looked at used way north when you know 3xactly what your getting

vintageogauge 05-24-2021 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by stebooo (Post 1949632)
Imo would not give money till I have WRITTEN answer. I don't trust those salesman. Have you looked at used way north when you know 3xactly what your getting

The way these homes and lots are selling now the lot or home you would be interested in while waiting for something in writing will most likely be sold out from under you.

Altavia 05-24-2021 03:49 PM

Many homes all over the Villages near powerlines, solid waste facilities (e.g.the Pine Villages), road noise, etc appreciated and sell quickly.

Was in Palm Beach this weekend and there are thousands of million dollar plus homes within ear shot of the Turnpike and/or I95.

vintageogauge 05-24-2021 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1950063)
Many homes all over the Villages near powerlines, solid waste facilities (e.g.the Pine Villages), road noise, etc appreciated and sell quickly.

Was in Palm Beach this weekend and there are thousands of million dollar plus homes within ear shot of the Turnpike and/or I95.

Amen to that. A lot of people are bother by noise but there are many that do not find it annoying at all. When I was growing up my grandmother lived within 20 yards of a railroad track and she always had her windows open weather permitting so that she could hear the trains even better. There are multiple buyers out there for every home that is available.

Road-Runner 05-25-2021 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by golfgal44 (Post 1948825)
#1, garages are for cars, not “stuff”. We happen to enjoy our collector car, like many of the people in t.v. do, as evidenced by the many vintage car clubs that exist. This is is one of the many reasons we are relocating to t.v.
#2, larger garage also allows for workshop space eliminating the need to pay every Tom, Dick, and Harry to repair a pipe, when one is handy enough.
#3, it is difficult to visit a lot three times a day when you live 2000 miles away. The way the t.v. Sales are today, the lot is here today, and gone today. There is no time given for investigating. This is what we are doing now, as evidenced by my question.
We will be visiting in a few weeks but thought we could get the opinions of t.v. residents who are more familiar with the area. We appreciate everyone's response so far.

Some people are just not 'Car' people! We got the largest 2 1/2 car garage we could find as the houses with 3 & 4 car garages were just too far above what we wanted to pay. That said, I'm looking into a car stacker and/or offsite storage for my 'toys'. All of them American muscle cars, but being in the U.K. yours might be some sweet British rides! I've been to the car show at Spanish Springs a couple of times and there's a guy there with an pristine Jaguar E type convertible. Gorgeous car, you're going to fit right in. Good luck finding your car cave.

VApeople 05-26-2021 08:13 AM

We rode our bikes in Citrus Grove on Sunday and went by your lot along the retention pond across from the intersection of James and Danielson. There was a very slight breeze blowing toward the turnpike and we could not hear any noise from the traffic.

It appears there might be a walking/biking path being built along the pond right behind your lot. It looks like the path will encircle the pond. Maybe your realtor will have more info about it.

golfgal44 05-26-2021 08:39 PM

So far, keeping the lot until we get down there to see it. Cant give it up yet because aren’t any lots which will hold 3-4 car garage, without power lines or huge towers in close view, without a kissing lanai and without hearing the tpke. Hawkins was pretty but again, the lot with a large enough front for a big garage was almost impossible. Anything south of here will be in a much higher tax bracket and even closer to the tpke. I won’t happy until I see it.

golfgal44 05-26-2021 08:50 PM

Bike paths in Citrus grove.
 
VaPeople, glad you rode by, but I don’t know where you are talking about with bike paths surrounding th lots. So far there are only spec homes being built. None of the custom built homes on the pond have been built yet. New builds will be built in front of the first row of houses shown. Are you sure you are not looking at the road in front of the first row of “spec” houses? The custom houses will be built in front of them.

VApeople 05-26-2021 11:04 PM

Yeah, it can get confusing because there are two places where James intersects Danielson.

We were looking at the lots on Danielson that back up to the pond.

It looks like they may be planning to put a walking/biking path between the back of the lots and the pond. There is no asphalt in place for what may be the biking/walking path, but the dirt was definitely smoothed out in a swath about 8 feet wide. It looked like the path will encircle the pond. There is a photo of that area on page A2 in the Daily Sun today.

Maybe it will be like Boudreau Court and Janesy Circle in Marsh Bend where there is a walking/biking path between the houses and the Hogeye Preserve.

From what we could tell, across the pond they plan to put in houses. No villas.

golfgal44 05-27-2021 11:02 PM

Building in village of citrus grove
 
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1951198)
Yeah, it can get confusing because there are two places where James intersects Danielson.

We were looking at the lots on Danielson that back up to the pond.

It looks like they may be planning to put a walking/biking path between the back of the lots and the pond. There is no asphalt in place for what may be the biking/walking path, but the dirt was definitely smoothed out in a swath about 8 feet wide. It looked like the path will encircle the pond. There is a photo of that area on page A2 in the Daily Sun today.

Maybe it will be like Boudreau Court and Janesy Circle in Marsh Bend where there is a walking/biking path between the houses and the Hogeye Preserve.

From what we could tell, across the pond they plan to put in houses. No villas.

Omg! A friend was in t.v. last Sunday. He didn’t see any path in by the pond. I haven’t seen the lot at all. I live up north. Bought it just on my friend’s inspection. I’ll be coming down in a couple of weeks to see for the first time. Don’t I have any recourse of action on this? I don’t have access to the daily sun.is it possible for you to send or post the article for me? Thank you so much.

golfgal44 05-27-2021 11:28 PM

Building in citrus grove
 
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Originally Posted by TNGary (Post 1949121)
OP, a lot of good feedback on this post. Many great and smart folks in TV's. I have move numerous times with transfers, upsizing, downsizing, etc. Most of the deals that slipped by me, perhaps late on a bid, etc, in retrospect I am glad they did, but not at the time. This lot does not appear to be a one of a kind, appears your already questioning it now. If you pull the plug and walk, I believe you will look back with no regrets. Please keep this post updated on your final decision. Your new family would like to know!!! best

Someone on this thread told me that they rode their bikes around this area and they think a walking/bike path might be planned for around the pond. I can’t believe this. This was not an inexpensive lot. I haven’t seen it as I live up north. I will be down there in a couple of weeks. No wonder t.v. Wants $10,000 with one week of holding the lot. They wait till they are all sold, then wait till everyone pays the $10k, then they pull a stunt like this? Don’t I have any recourse? It’s a good thing I didn’t put my house up north up for sale yet.

golfgal44 05-27-2021 11:41 PM

Building in citrus grove
 
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Originally Posted by Road-Runner (Post 1950376)
Some people are just not 'Car' people! We got the largest 2 1/2 car garage we could find as the houses with 3 & 4 car garages were just too far above what we wanted to pay. That said, I'm looking into a car stacker and/or offsite storage for my 'toys'. All of them American muscle cars, but being in the U.K. yours might be some sweet British rides! I've been to the car show at Spanish Springs a couple of times and there's a guy there with an pristine Jaguar E type convertible. Gorgeous car, you're going to fit right in. Good luck finding your car cave.

I am from the u.s. but I do own a British car, similar to the one you mentioned, besides a muscle car, an suv, my sibling’s suv and tools. 5 car garage would be perfect. Lol! We looked into private storage. There is a private storage facility for cars about1 mile away. Car stacker is a good idea, but would have to have a house tall enough. I prefer a house pre-owned around brownwood or lake Sumter, but there aren’t enough
four car garages within that area.

John Mayes 05-28-2021 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by golfgal44 (Post 1951580)
Someone on this thread told me that they rode their bikes around this area and they think a walking/bike path might be planned for around the pond. I can’t believe this. This was not an inexpensive lot. I haven’t seen it as I live up north. I will be down there in a couple of weeks. No wonder t.v. Wants $10,000 with one week of holding the lot. They wait till they are all sold, then wait till everyone pays the $10k, then they pull a stunt like this? Don’t I have any recourse? It’s a good thing I didn’t put my house up north up for sale yet.

This is on TV website;

https://cdn2.thevillages.com/wp-cont...NCH-map_05.jpg

VApeople 05-28-2021 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by golfgal44 (Post 1951579)
Omg! A friend was in t.v. last Sunday. He didn’t see any path in by the pond.

Probably he did not see the path because he did not get out of his car and walk around the lots. From the back of the lots, it is easy to see the leveled strip along the pond which may become a walking/biking path.

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Originally Posted by golfgal44 (Post 1951579)
Don’t I have any recourse of action on this?

Look at the lots on Boudreau Circle and Janesy Court in Marsh Bend. Do you think those homeowners were told there would be a walking/biking path right behind their lots? Since one of those houses without a pool is now selling for $1.1M, the path doesn't appear to have hurt the value of the homes.

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Originally Posted by golfgal44 (Post 1951579)
I don’t have access to the daily sun.is it possible for you to send or post the article for me? Thank you so much.

It wasn't an article. It was just a photo in an advertisement for lots in Citrus Grove. Maybe a realtor can help you. Other people have recommended Beth Pope. I have never met her, but our friends said they used her to help sell their house and were very pleased,

When we were down there on Sunday, we took pictures where it appears a path may be built. Maybe my wife can post them here. She knows more about the computer than I do.

asianthree 05-28-2021 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by golfgal44 (Post 1951580)
Someone on this thread told me that they rode their bikes around this area and they think a walking/bike path might be planned for around the pond. I can’t believe this. This was not an inexpensive lot. I haven’t seen it as I live up north. I will be down there in a couple of weeks. No wonder t.v. Wants $10,000 with one week of holding the lot. They wait till they are all sold, then wait till everyone pays the $10k, then they pull a stunt like this? Don’t I have any recourse? It’s a good thing I didn’t put my house up north up for sale yet.

You have a rep, instead of getting info from TOTV, call your rep. We looked at a home with a walking path, on a pond in Chitty Chatty. The path was on the other side of the pond, and was not a surprise to us. Again you can apply any monies to another lot, as of right now 7 lots where you are building have just been released and are back on the market. How do I know that, because my rep texted me with a walk around of the lot. Sadly your friend may not have walked the lot, but if there is a path, it’s been in the plans since day one.

CALL your rep, if they can’t do the job GET someone else. I absolutely trust my guy

golfgal44 05-28-2021 09:34 AM

Building in citrus grove
 
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1948205)
Amazing that people pay huge amounts for lots and do not pay much attention to their surroundings when doing so.

Why would anyone want to build near an Interstate or huge power lines?

Would definitely pay more for a better location.


Difficult to pay attention to fine details when you are 2000 miles away and t.v. Photoshops things, as they do with many of the electrical towers behind homes. Pay more for a better location? Citrus grove doesn’t have any prime locations.

Papa_lecki 05-28-2021 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by golfgal44 (Post 1951774)
Difficult to pay attention to fine details when you are 2000 miles away and t.v. Photoshops things, as they do with many of the electrical towers behind homes. Pay more for a better location? Citrus grove doesn’t have any prime locations.

If you are going to spend a couple hundred thousand on a house - maybe spend $1000 and fly down for the weekend to do your own due diligence.

justjim 05-28-2021 09:59 AM

Due diligence
 
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Originally Posted by Road-Runner (Post 1948239)
We chose Bradford because it was far enough away from the turnpike that at least so far we've never heard it even late at night when things are quiet. We also weren't keen on power lines which we also avoided in Bradford. We're not on a pond, but otherwise the perfect spot for us.

It certainly pays to due diligence when it comes to noise. The Turnpike noise could put a damper on what otherwise would be an excellent place to build. Another caution to take is the distance from Pickleball courts.

golfgal44 05-28-2021 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1951669)
Probably he did not see the path because he did not get out of his car and walk around the lots. From the back of the lots, it is easy to see the leveled strip along the pond which may become a walking/biking path.



Look at the lots on Boudreau Circle and Janesy Court in Marsh Bend. Do you think those homeowners were told there would be a walking/biking path right behind their lots? Since one of those houses without a pool is now selling for $1.1M, the path doesn't appear to have hurt the value of the homes.



It wasn't an article. It was just a photo in an advertisement for lots in Citrus Grove. Maybe a realtor can help you. Other people have recommended Beth Pope. I have never met her, but our friends said they used her to help sell their house and were very pleased,

When we were down there on Sunday, we took pictures where it appears a path may be built. Maybe my wife can post them here. She knows more about the computer than I do.

I would appreciate that. Thank you.

VApeople 05-28-2021 11:44 AM

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Here are some pictures:

1) The first photo was taken from what I think is your lot along Danielson Loop. James Road is in the background.

2) This was taken in back of your lot looking toward the golf course. I suspect this may be a walking/biking path.

3) This is another photo of the path looking away from the golf course. On the left, you can see the drop-off down to the pond.

4) This was taken from the front of your lot looking toward the retention pond.

5) This is a photo of the retention pond. It was taken from the back of your lot.

golfgal44 05-28-2021 09:44 PM

Building in citrus grove
 
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1951824)
Here are some pictures:

1) The first photo was taken from what I think is your lot along Danielson Loop. James Road is in the background.

2) This was taken in back of your lot looking toward the golf course. I suspect this may be a walking/biking path.

3) This is another photo of the path looking away from the golf course. On the left, you can see the drop-off down to the pond.

4) This was taken from the front of your lot looking toward the retention pond.

5) This is a photo of the retention pond. It was taken from the back of your lot.

Thanks so much for doing this for me. My lot looks more like the 5th pic. I am not one of the lots on the golf course. I am closer to the middle the pond. I had asked a friend who lives outside t.v. If they would take a look. I will be down there in a couple of weeks. This friend asked one of the ce,ent workers what that strip was. He said it’s a road they flatten out so their trucks could drive up and down to plant trees. He said “no path”. He said the construction dept. has all the maps and they would know about paths. He insisted there would be not walk/bike path there. Sure hope he’s right.

VApeople 05-29-2021 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by golfgal44 (Post 1951990)
My lot looks more like the 5th pic.

Actually, all of the pictures were taken from what we thought was your lot on Danielson.

Kiminmiss 06-19-2021 01:28 PM

What did you decide?
 
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Originally Posted by golfgal44 (Post 1951990)
Thanks so much for doing this for me. My lot looks more like the 5th pic. I am not one of the lots on the golf course. I am closer to the middle the pond. I had asked a friend who lives outside t.v. If they would take a look. I will be down there in a couple of weeks. This friend asked one of the ce,ent workers what that strip was. He said it’s a road they flatten out so their trucks could drive up and down to plant trees. He said “no path”. He said the construction dept. has all the maps and they would know about paths. He insisted there would be not walk/bike path there. Sure hope he’s right.

So, did you get a chance to visit and see your lot?

M2inOR 06-19-2021 09:02 PM

There are now new houses being built on the other side of the pond.

Carla B 06-20-2021 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiminmiss (Post 1961973)
So, did you get a chance to visit and see your lot?

Yes, what was the outcome, inquiring minds want to know!

CoachKandSportsguy 06-20-2021 08:30 AM

The current conundrum is that lots and houses are going fast and low on resale inventory as the boomers retire, and are looking for a lower tax base and better retirement weather. Do you have to move and can wait for a better resale in a year from now? There is a huge case of popular TV FOMO (fear of missing out) right now, and this is what is driving the current buying craze. . If I were you, I would continue to sell your home as its a great time to sell, and rent a villa, condo, whatever you can fit into , in TV, and continue your search down here. . . and be ready to pounce, ie close in one day, (hyperbole to the literals) when you find the perfect lot. . . there is more time available than you realize without getting caught up in FOMO, and you will get a better deal for your dreams than rushing it right now. . . and write the $2,500 off on your taxes as an investment loss. . .

finance guy

Lottoguy 06-20-2021 08:57 AM

If you move three times in a short time period suggests to me you didn't do your homework. My 2 cents.


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