I think you miss read my post. I did not say third burglary on Adrienne Way....it was the third burglary in Sanibel. I found this out by our neighbor who is a friend of there people who got burglarized. Why would I make this up?? My husband saw the police at their home as well. It did happen. Also, they will catch the person who did this and I will bet it is someone who works at this end of town, which is why the burglaries are occurring here. Just my thought.

I read your post to mean three altogether in Sanibel, Happinow.

The second burglary in Sanibel--same modus operandi--happened to my friend's next-door neighbor. That one was in the paper for sure. So there were a confirmed two, and I think I remember that one happened before the one I mentioned, making three total.

happinow -
I just did a quick search of the forums and found previous threads re break-ins in sanibel [cofirming the most recent was the 3rd]:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...sanibel-95842/

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...sanibel-95787/

I understood that you did not mean the 3rd break-in on Adrienne Way! :)

Thank you, the voice of reason. The police have limited resources and are unlikely to pursue action unless they had more than just suspicions to work with.

Good post. Yes we have become a large community and since we are not a secure gated community, anyone can easily get in. It pays to be careful. I'm sure The Villages looks like a bunch of rich people to outsiders, and tempting to thieves.

I love the Morse family. This has NOTHING to do with them. Noone ever spread any PROPAGANDA to me from them in any way about how safe this place is. Do not say mean stuff about the paper for no GOOD reason. Nobody needs anything to sell this place, it sells itself. This is MY town and I LOVE it. I live here year 'round. Ich bin ein Villager!


This is a very safe community but there are always those who want to take instead of work.


We are safer HERE than most places because we don't work. We mostly move around this area doing our stuff and keeping our SAGE eyes peeled. Not much escapes us and these guys are gonna get caught because one of us seniors is gonna see something and say something.


We are neighborhood watch on STEROIDS.


Don't MESS with old people. Girls? Hot water with vinegar. We will seek them out.


Merry Christmas y'all.

Well..... according to the following site:The Villages crime rates and statistics - NeighborhoodScout
there have been 60 violent crimes in the last year. How many of these were you aware of?
The site states that although we have an overall low crime rate, we have a violent crime rate comparable to other cities of our size. Interesting information. "Now let us turn to take a look at how The Villages does for violent crimes specifically, and then how it does for property crimes. This is important because the overall crime rate can be further illuminated by understanding if violent crime or property crimes (or both) are the major contributors to the general rate of crime in The Villages.

NeighborhoodScout's research shows that The Villages's violent crime rate is 1 per one thousand inhabitants, which is about average for all communities in America, across all population sizes. Violent crimes that are tracked and included in this rate are armed robbery, aggravated assault, forcible (not statutory) rape, and murder and non-negligent manslaughter. Roughly similar to the national average, our analysis shows that your chance of becoming a victim of violent crime in The Villages is one in 857."

Now, in my opinion, it will get worse. Increased population, mostly elderly, will APPEAR as easy pickings to professional criminals.

AWWW come on. There is no conspiracy to cover things up. Plus we have us here on TOTV who report all rumors etc.
Below this is from the article YOU linked.


"About The Villages crime rates
With a crime rate for both violent and property crime combined of 9 per 1,000 residents, the crime rate in The Villages is one of the lower rates in America among communities of all sizes (lower than 82% of America's communities). One's chance of becoming a victim of crime in The Villages is one in 113. Compared to communities within Florida, The Villages‘s crime rate is lower than nearly 96% of the state's cities and towns.
Additionally, NeighborhoodScout analyzed all cities and towns in America with a similar population size to The Villages, and we found that the crime rate in The Villages is one of the lowest in the nation for its size. This means The Villages is one of the safest places in America in which to live for its size, a very important finding.
The crime data that NeighborhoodScout used for this analysis are the seven offenses from the uniform crime reports, collected by the FBI from 17,000 local law enforcement agencies, and include both violent and property crimes, combined.
Now let us turn to take a look at how The Villages does for violent crimes specifically, and then how it does for property crimes. This is important because the overall crime rate can be further illuminated by understanding if violent crime or property crimes (or both) are the major contributors to the general rate of crime in The Villages.
NeighborhoodScout's research shows that The Villages's violent crime rate is 1 per one thousand inhabitants, which is about average for all communities in America, across all population sizes. Violent crimes that are tracked and included in this rate are armed robbery, aggravated assault, forcible (not statutory) rape, and murder and non-negligent manslaughter. Roughly similar to the national average, our analysis shows that your chance of becoming a victim of violent crime in The Villages is one in 857.
NeighborhoodScout's analysis of property crime reveals that the property crime rate in The Villages is below average to all cities and towns in the nation. This means that you are less likely to become a victim of arson, motor vehicle theft, larceny, or burglary in The Villages than in most communities in America. Your chance of becoming a victim of property crime if you live here? Just one in 130."

I didn't say there was ANY conspiracy. I did state that the site said we have an overall lower crime rate. I did post the link.
Now.....as I asked, did you know that there were 60 violent crimes in the last year? If not, why? Just asking a legitimate question. Hey, maybe the 60 number is wrong.

I understood you perfectly, Happinow. I think some people actually get on here simply to be contrary in the privacy of their own homes...something they may not have the nerve to do in person. Anyway...guess we better get moving...apparently living north of 466 is the place to be...no burglaries, and your word gets to be gospel!!

...Let's not fight.


Everyone is really on the same page.


Let's get ready to enjoy a beautiful week.

[QUOTE=buggyone;799679]So, after 4 pages of posts, I saw absolutely NOTHING of this being a THIRD burglary on Adrienne Way - I claim it DID NOT HAPPEN.

Just some of the "I heard it happened" from neighbors at the pool or rec centers but NOTHING to substantiate what happened - which was NOTHING.

I am glad I do not live South of 466A!!![/QUOTE

Because our area has been burgled, because YOU can't verify something apparently you know nothing about, or just because it's something dull to say?

Beautiful, Gracie...table and sentiments. I just don't like bullies!! anyway...fa-la-la!! Enjoy the last days before Christmas..and I will go back to Candy Crush...much less annoying!! :)

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Thanks...will do.

I think the 60 violent crimes for the Villages is incorrect.
To begin the site you linked has the population for TV at 51442.
They do a lot of mashing of numbers and guesstimating. This statement from the site. "We then research and develop mathematical algorithms to statistically estimate the incidences of both violent and property crimes for each neighborhood in America". NOTE: Estimate.
A futher review of their FAQ will yield more misconceptions of their data.

If one is truly interested in crime stats for TV, I would talk to the Sumter County Sheriff, Marion County Sheriff and Lady Lake Police.
Relying/quoting crime info from a Real Estate web site raises a lot of questions.

Definitely, I feel the reported number of 60 violent crimes in The Villages per year is incorrect.

In the 4 years I have lived here, I can only recall a couple of violent crimes besides the murder in 2006 (which was before my time here). One was a woman who shot her husband during a domestic dispute (both were retired police and had guns at home), two assaults with deadly weapons (both happened a couple of Christmasses ago and guns were shown in a threatening way during a dispute over parking spaces at Lake Sumter Landing), and the report of an armed robbery of customers at Gators Dockside.

Can anyone think of others I have missed?

One thing I learned this morning researching(teacher on break without a tee time) it is VERY difficult to get exact records for free(visited Sumter, Lake and Marion websites). Many websites use averages, but the one I cited above appears to be the most accurate and reliable. They use the most recent and relevant data. But I will say, there are more incidents than referenced above by buggy. There was a swat team tear gas episode a couple years ago that I believe was under-reported. Look, I agree that we have a lower crime rate than most places, but I hope some of the latest incidents serve as a wake-up call to the possibilities. As we grow, there will be more issues and the more desperate individuals around us will be making their rounds more often.

Is anyone else disturbed by this? This is not what i expected when buying into TV. Please don't go on about it happens everywhere. We all did not come to a retirement community to have drug dealers and addicts at the pool and post office area. I am appauled that JIMROY has done nothing about it. Maybe he has and not told us. JIMROY if you have please tell us. I feel like perhaps TV is on a downword slide. Home invasion, kicking in doors and drug addicts are not what you expected when coming here. Try not to attack me or this post. Read between the lines. This is someone who thought they found a wonderful happy place to retire and is finding maybe it's not what it ONCE was.

DO NOT believe every thing posted on here. Read awhile and absorb attitudes and information...or lack of it.. OR go BACK and read some more of what the poster has posted before.

I still haven't seen anything in the newspaper or online news site about this latest break-in. Has anyone else?

Nah.

Redchariot, don't be so alarmed. Home prices have skyrocketed here and if you find that you're uncomfortable with the safety level, moving vans are always available. Lest you think I'm telling you to go home, I am not. I hope you enjoy everyday in The Villages and do not have too much angst about crime levels within our community.

Some of these reports are unverified and there are other ghastly things, supposedly, that occurred but apparently aren't serious enough for the observers to have the situation checked out. It's hard to lend credence to those reports given the lack of action taken by the observers. Are there drugs in The Villages? I'm sure there are, we even had discussions on this forum whereby potheads felt marijuana should be legalized and some indicated they were enjoying it now. There are drugs problems everywhere, no hiding from that.

I think one would have to lock oneself in a room 24/7 to avoid the world happenings. You could run to a gated community but those may be the most vulnerable as they think nothing can happen within their walls and may be unprepared, access can be gained at any time. Smell the flowers and enjoy the day. If crime reports increase and you do not feel comfortable in The Villages, that is the time to consider your next move. Please don't waste your precious life hours worrying about things that most likely will never happen.

The SWAT tear gas incident was the wife shooting the husband domestic incident - both were retired police officers. It was very late 2009.

Please cite all the violent crimes you can recall in The Villages. I honestly cannot recall other than the few I mentioned.

Nope, sorry but that is a different incident. The occasion I am mentioning is a 59 year old man off his meds allegedly attacked an 80 year old woman. When SSD went to arrest him, he barricaded himself in his home. Several weapons were removed also. Happened a couple of years ago.
As I said before, still a safe place to live but this stuff does happen.

Regarding access to investigative reports compiled by the Sumter county
Sheriff office .. Does anyone know what the law actually says in terms of
public access to those records? Are citizens or taxpayers etc
legally entitled to copies of crime reports upon request ?

Great sight to check crime in any area nationwide. Go to advance setting, and change to 30 days and all crime. Pretty accurate.
https://www.crimereports.com/

Prepared? Concealed carry? Stand your ground?

For the prepared Villager I recommend the "E-Z-GO Gun Holder with Removable Floor Mount" [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zK5rcFehbI]How to Install an E-Z-GO Gun Holder with Removable Floor Mount - YouTube[/ame]

For the intermediate to long shot I would go with the Ruger Mini 30 stainless. At 7.62x39 it packs more of a punch than the Mini 14/.223 cartridge. And the stainless is best for the Florida weather and open exposure that comes with a golf cart.

For close in I'm still a Ruger guy. I'd go with an SP 101 357 with a 2 1/2 barrel. Personally I'd go with an ankle holster rather than sticking it in my waist band. If I'm going to shoot something off I'd rather it be a toe. I have 9 of them left.

I tried mounting a 50 cal to my cart (think "Rat Patrol") but every time I shot a round the cart flipped on its side. I fired off a "burst" once and did cartwheels down Moorse Blvd. But I felt prepared for anything.

Some people are prepared to shoot other people at a moments notice, some people aren't prepared or equipped mentally to do that. :shrug:

Yippie Kay yay mother ...

And some are devoid of humor.:1rotfl:

You too funny...

Best. Advice. Ever !!

:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:

I think one would be very naive to think there was no crime of any kind............anywhere you might reside.

The Villages is not on a downword slide and to say this is just wrong. I don't know how to read between the lines, could you explain?

Your are right about on thing. Those who think they are seeing drug dealing are doing themselves and all their neighbors a dis-service by not reporting to the Sheriff.

Yeah, that happened to me once before on this forum; someone advised people to wear a bullet proof vest to a contentious local meeting and I thought suggesting shooting people at a public meeting was disgusting and I missed that humor too. Guess I don't get all giggly at the thought of gun violence, ah well.... somethings I just don't want to get over. :eek:

You do know what read between the lines means. Getting the essence of what the person is feeling. Not always taking every word and tearing it apart. I am disappointed that there is/are addicts and drug dealers in a retirement village. Did not see that coming for sure. Retirement village! Even in NJ they would find that hard to believe.

My parents retired in 1984 in Spring Hill, Florida in a community called Timber Pines. It's located on US Hwy 19 north of St. Petersburg near Weeki Wachee Springs where they have the mermaid shows. The community was started in 1983 was built out around year 1998. They have 1200 acres with 3 golf courses and about 2000 homes. The home styles are much like TV's and residents drive their golf cart on the streets.

Timber Pines is completely surrounded by a 8' masonry wall and has only two entrances with are both gated with 24 hour security. Unless you leave a visitor notification at the gate, your guests cannot enter. I lived in Spring Hill for about a year in 1989 and I can remember in just that year alone Timber Pines had at least a dozen home burglaries. So even with all their security they weren't able to prevent them.

Find it very hard to believe a Villager, if an addict, would shoot up in the pool restroom instead of their own home. One person makes an assumption and now it is a fact?

Sorry you are disapointed. I would stop worrying now........................

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I still don't think that fact has been established for sure about The Villages...( As in Heroin.) There are a lot of people here addicted to alcohol, just like anywhere else. I know of the meth lab that two young people had in a persons attic who was probably very gullible.


People make a lot of statements here and get all excited and most of the time it is just talk.


Most of us are retired and a good share are smart and aware of what is happening. We are watching out for each other.


But people are still people here and the sins and foibles that most people face in their lives continue well into retirement. But I think we are a pretty decent group of good people.