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And insurance

empaths = MMpaths = multimodal paths ???

Insurance on the golf cart?

Personally, I believe ANY person driving their golf cart without at least liability insurance is mighty dumb. Just one second of distraction could cause an accident and in this legal suit age could end up costing you everything you worked hard to get.

In fact, the umbrella policy with your home, cart, and car can all be linked to give greater coverage.

I thought I made it quite clear that I don't like it without going into senseless detail, without expressing anger, and without pouting when some didnt agree with my position.

The case may be closed in your mind but that is not the law. If you feel strongly about the issue then write your representative to try to get a law enacted.

And then they could leave every one of those 20,000 pages of law slowly turning in the wind, because they would not have funded enforcement of it.:shrug:

I wouldn't be opposed to having IDs on golf carts, but I would think it should be something readable from a distance, like the size of a license plate or something that can be read from surveillance cameras.

Actually, they would fund enforcement, but never enforce it. As an example I give you---Border Patrol

As with most things Villages......no enforcement either by the Districts or by the Sheriff on many things. I am tolerant of the Sheriff since they do have bigger things to worry about than golf carts. I have less tolerance with the District not having enforcement on a lot of levels as they continue to make unenforceable rules.

Be very careful of what you wish for folks

Have I Missed Something !
 

:gc: Only worry about things that matter,I for one am tired of PC .So,you have hurt my personal feeling,If you don't like my option,Then look the other way .This has gat to be a waste of space and grey matter lol Enjoy what we have and quite fighting about things we have no control off.

City of South Daytona
Police Department
Post Office Box 214960
1672 South Ridgewood Avenue (386) 322-3030 PHONE
South Daytona, FL 32121 (386) 322-3055 FAX
GOLF CART REGISTRATION PACKET

Dear Resident:

This package provides the information you will need to register your golf cart for use on selected City streets. The registration package consists of a registration and inspection form and information on the rules and regulations governing golf cart use on publicroads. In order to register your golf cart you will need to complete the following steps:

1. Complete the golf cart registration and sign where indicated.
2. Note that proof of insurance is required and you will need to contact your
insurance agent to obtain coverage.
3. Have a Police Department Community Service Officer inspect your golf cart and complete the form. Call 322-3030 to make an appointment for an inspection.
4. The City requires that you read and understand the Golf Cart Rules and
Regulations that are attached. The information is also available at the Police
Department and City Hall or may be viewed on line at the City’s web site at
City of South Daytona, Florida // Home Page.
5. A $30 annual registration fee (or prorated at $2.50 per month) is required. Once paid, you will be issued a decal to place on your windshield to indicate your cart has been approved for use on local streets.
6. The registration is valid for one calendar year with an annual renewal beginning and due in January of each year. If you move, you will need to notify the Police Department of your address change.

HAPPY AND SAFE CARTING!

Please remember that using golf carts on City streets is a privilege, not a right. The City reserves the right to revoke any and all golf cart registrations as deemed necessary. The City Council also reserves the right to cancel this program at any time.

And don't forget to "buckle up" when you fly that drone...

I decided to be very cautious and not bring a drone with me to fly during my long three months stay in The Villages. I would like to find a nearby airport to rent an aircraft and then fly around the local area. I and everyone else on board buckles up when I am flying. :spoken:

:undecided::popcorn:

Cart ID's
 

Opposed.

We have too much regulation already. I think someone has already posted about the new TV agency we would need for "compliance." The cost of "officials" or additional LEOs to enforce would be outrageous.

Come on folks, we don't live in NYC. Just act like the adults we are supposed to be.

N0 I think we need plates.

I assume this is a new program that is just starting up? The issue with The Villages is that the cat has been let out of the bag for a long time. The resistance to paying for something that has been free will be enormous. Equally daunting will be the effort to setup the logistics for dealing with 60K golf carts. People who believe in this should forward their desires to the appropriate representatives. I doubt it will get traction, however. Voicing desires and objections in this forum is not very productive.

I don't feel like reading everything again. Is this an accurate summary of the debate?

Those in favor of plates agree that licensing a vehicle will make it easier for others if they are involved in an accident, or to identify if they see someone driving irresponsibly so they can accurately report the reckless driving to the authorities. This will make it a safer place to live.

Those against plates say the mmps are private, this will be expensive for everyone, it would require extra security to enforce and the chances of reading a plate accurately in a moving vehicle is questionable. This will; not make the place safer to live.

Did I miss anything?

I don't feel like reading everything to answer your question.

Good summary
 

Nice Summary. I would only add the following: Most pros believe that a license plate would be necessary to be effective. Since TV is in three different counties you would need to get all three counties involved. Cons: You hit the nail on the head---costs, bureaucracy, regulation and more law enforcement.

If the goal is to make TV a safer place then are we asking the right question? I seriously doubt a license plate or sticker would significantly make us safer as we drive our golf carts throughout The Villages. Given the accidents and fatalities over the years perhaps making seat belts mandatory would be more effective in making us safer. Perhaps off subject-----just a thought. :gc:

Well said.

ID tags, license plates, serial numbers, etc are all too complicated and would too much work to properly administer for the limited amount of good they could do.

For the main part, I believe it is the golf carts which exceed the 20 mph limit ( not the street legal ones which have a 25 mph limit). I have been passed on Morse by carts doing well over 35. One cart passed me on Morse a couple of months ago at around 35. He should have checked his surroundings better. He was immediately pulled over by a Deputy! Costly error on his part.

Actually I view this thread as a microcosm of the current national debate:

Do we want a country based on traditional American values and freedoms, the ones that the US was founded upon, or

Do we want a country governed by an overreaching nanny state that regulates every facet of our lives, in the name of "safety" or "social justice"(whatever that is)

This is for the voters to decide, next opportunity Nov 2016

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

And the lobbyists would be the golf cart manufactures who can prove they are safe or the seat belt installers who can prove they are effective?

My Goodness
 

My Goodness. How people can complicate things. Lets make it simple and no different than what you have today. First: Everyone carries a village ID Card and Second: Each ID card has a number which is assigned when you become a resident. Third: I have not heard of anyone complaining this is a terrible buracratic invasion and destroyed their card with their ID. Fourth: When you go into a Rec center it is a general rule to ask to see your ID and I have not heard of anyone saying no and walking out. Fifth: Same applies to pools, etc. Now let get a little sane. You already have an ID and you show it where ever you go and I don't recall hearing anyone screaming no when asked. It would be a very cheap (probably in the pennies) thing to have that ID number which you are use to placed on a little stickem that could be applied to each windshield of a golf cart.
Hopefully this demonstrates it is already a common practice in The Villages and pretty useful. No licence plates, no setting up a big new set of files, no need for new control people, etc etc. Just give out a little "stick em" with a number you already have. I can't wait to hear how this is so terrible and an invasion when they already have it and follow the rules!:bowdown:

Would it be wise to have your Village ID # in public view on your golf cart?
Plus I also think it would be too small to be of much use!
"My goodness, how people can complicate things"
I don't think you fully understand how complicated it would be doing what
you propose after the bureaucrats get involved with it!
And they most certainly would!

The problem is that you and I don't have the right mindset to understand this. We think the goal of a rule/law/regulation should be to achieve a purpose, in this case identification of a golf cart that broke existing rules, especially something as egregious as a hit and run. When we realize that a small sticker would be ineffective, we cross that idea off our list. To others, however, the goal of a law is the law itself. More laws and bigger government is "good", even if it achieves absolutely nothing. Hence, my previous comment on the broader national debate. To each his own, and everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just happen to be goal oriented, maybe those with a broader philosophical ideology are smarter than I....

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Tom, are you OK?---it looks like you have a frog stuck in your throat:1rotfl:

yea, i'm ok----
at first i thought the thread was about improving safety--i'm all for that

I think everyone would like to see safety improved, except maybe the offenders. But I would like to see, if possible, an effective, acceptable cost solution, not some Draconian big government regulatory agency.

golfing eagles === Tom, are you OK?---it looks like you have a frog stuck in your throat
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It's OK Tom, spit it out and tell us what you really think! :laugh:

This thread reminds me of my 4 year old grandson stomping off to his room because he didn't get his way. And being a child, he too could come up with several reasons and analogies to justify his position.