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margaretmattson 08-22-2023 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by alaskagirl (Post 2248465)
The original developer is from the Central Lake area in northern Michigan. The beautiful area includes Torch Lake, Eastport and located in Atrium County and near Traverse City, Michigan. I am from northern Michigan and therefore have been to these places. The developer used Michigan town, city, county and lake names throughout The Villages.

Nobody is disputing the names come from their hometown. The family has been using "family-related" names for years throughout development. This thread is about the amount of land the developer has purchased...enough to double the size of the Villages. This has been confirmed several times in this thread. Whether it is the reason they renamed the road Central Pkwy may be questionable. However, the development maps provided by a few posters on this thread reveal, without question, that Central Pkwy will be the in the middle of the Villages when the planned construction is complete. If the developer purchases more land, this will obviously change.

I looked up the history of Central Lake in Michigan. It got its name because it is located in the center of a chain of lakes. Not that far-fetched that the family knows this information and is using it the same way in the Villages.

Papa_lecki 08-22-2023 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2248422)
There is a factor that could change those future predictions. The Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic Ocean around Florida are at record temperatures. Also, most parts of the planet. Scientists predict increased HEAT around the earth for at least 8 years due to fossil fuel use and population increase.
........What will likely happen is that smart people will look at the fact that they can't live in Florida year around due to the summer heat, humidity, and hurricanes. Then, they will look to buy homes in Georgia, South and North Carolina. And they will find those places are probably less costly than Florida is right now.

OR - if we are lucky, the oceans will rise so much, that the villages will become ocean front.

margaretmattson 08-22-2023 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 2248292)
Well as others have asked.....how did you hear this? Coming on a social media site to ask your main question is like throwing sand into the wind. Rumors abound in this community and few are true. Someone said that only the developer knows the answer(s) you ask. Live here long enough and you might know that!!! Besides, I think many of us won't be here to experience what you fear. Someone once said the only thing to fear is fear itself!! Just take deep breathes and relax!

I was hearing it over and over by many individuals I consider to be intelligent and not mere rumor spreaders. Good thing I did decide to throw sand into the wind. Turns out, the information is true.

Wasn't asking out of fear. Knowledge is power and I plan to use what I learned wisely when purchasing a newly constructed home. The lottery the salesmen use to convince you that you need to purchase a home quickly or lose out? Not exactly true! I now know the Developer has enough land purchased to build for 15+ more years. Going to take my time and wait for a home I truly love instead of acting on a FOMO sales tactic.

MrChip72 08-22-2023 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2248500)
I was hearing it over and over by many individuals I consider to be intelligent and not mere rumor spreaders. Good thing I did decide to throw sand into the wind. Turns out, the information is true.

What the heck is the evidence you've used to conclude that the information is true?

It seems obvious to me that the developer is just going to keep expanding until it is no longer profitable to do so. They've clearly bought tons of land AFTER central parkway was planned and it's doubtful that they're just going to stop all of the sudden.

Randall55 08-23-2023 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MrChip72 (Post 2248511)
What the heck is the evidence you've used to conclude that the information is true?

It seems obvious to me that the developer is just going to keep expanding until it is no longer profitable to do so. They've clearly bought tons of land AFTER central parkway was planned and it's doubtful that they're just going to stop all of the sudden.

Why do posters keep asking for proof that the developer has already purchased enough land to double the size of the villages? Or, make stupid remarks about how gullible the OP is?

READ THE ENTIRE THREAD. There has been enough information provided in this thread that supports the OP. The map provided by a few posters clearly shows Eastport/Central Lake will be the center of the Villages once the developer's PLANNED construction is complete. There has been no mention of other land being purchased. If there is more land, it also supports the OP. The size of the Villages will be as big as the city of Tampa and Orlando. Or maybe even bigger.

Geez! There is another thread on this site that asks the question: Do you read the thread or just post? Obvious to me, some people just post.

JMintzer 08-23-2023 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2248512)
Why do posters keep asking for proof that the developer has already purchased enough land to double the size of the villages? Or, make stupid remarks about how gullible the OP is?

READ THE ENTIRE THREAD. There has been enough information provided in this thread that supports the OP. The map provided by a few posters clearly shows Eastport/Central Lake will be the center of the Villages once the developer's PLANNED construction is complete. There has been no mention of other land being purchased. If there is more land, it also supports the OP. The size of the Villages will be as big as the city of Tampa and Orlando. Or maybe even bigger.

Geez! There is another thread on this site that asks the question: Do you read the thread or just post? Obvious to me, some people just post.

Except, if you actually look at said map, SR 44 in much closer to the geographical center...

Stu from NYC 08-23-2023 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2248589)
Except, if you actually look at said map, SR 44 in much closer to the geographical center...

As most of us realize it is the geographical center only temporarily.

JMintzer 08-23-2023 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2248640)
As most of us realize it is the geographical center only temporarily.

I'm only going by the map that some are stating is what compromises TV land holdings...

Stu from NYC 08-23-2023 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2248646)
I'm only going by the map that some are stating is what compromises TV land holdings...

True but anyone living awhile who pays attention knows that the developer keeps certain things close to his chest. I cannot blame him for doing so

Randall55 08-23-2023 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2248589)
Except, if you actually look at said map, SR 44 in much closer to the geographical center...

Much better post than others who do not read the thread and simply post nonsense. East Port and SR. 44 will someday be the middle of the Vilages. Thanks for your insight. It will be interesting to see when the construction is complete. More amenities at what cost? Like some, concerned about the traffic.

Altavia 08-23-2023 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2248708)
Much better post than others who do not read the thread and simply post nonsense. East Port and SR. 44 will someday be the middle of the Vilages. Thanks for your insight. It will be interesting to see when the construction is complete. More amenities at what cost? Like some, concerned about the traffic.

The regional road plan for Sumter County:

https://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/Agend...4?fileID=43890

JMintzer 08-23-2023 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2248660)
True but anyone living awhile who pays attention knows that the developer keeps certain things close to his chest. I cannot blame him for doing so

I never said otherwise...

I specifically said "based on the map some are using..."

Anything is is pure speculation.

JMintzer 08-23-2023 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2248708)
Much better post than others who do not read the thread and simply post nonsense. East Port and SR. 44 will someday be the middle of the Vilages. Thanks for your insight. It will be interesting to see when the construction is complete. More amenities at what cost? Like some, concerned about the traffic.

Except they're two different crossroads, several miles apart...

And the cost of the amenities? They are paid for with our amenity fees. Same as it ever was...

Randall55 08-23-2023 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2248746)
Except they're two different crossroads, several miles apart...

And the cost of the amenities? They are paid for with our amenity fees. Same as it ever was...

Was not speaking about the actual cost of the amenities. More homes, apartments, and commercial at what price is what I meant. Traffic is already bad at certain times during the day down here. 301 can be a nightmare. Several miles apart, same difference to me. Point is, the south will no longer be the south and the population is going to explode.

Stu from NYC 08-23-2023 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2248744)
I never said otherwise...

I specifically said "based on the map some are using..."

Anything is is pure speculation.

Never thought you said otherwise but based on what I have learned while living here stand by what I said

MrChip72 08-23-2023 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2248512)
The map provided by a few posters clearly shows Eastport/Central Lake will be the center of the Villages once the developer's PLANNED construction is complete.

The developer has never shared what their total planned construction is. They also bought new land 4 months ago even.

Central lake is named after Central lake in Western Michigan just as around 100 other things in TV have been named after other places in Western Michigan. BTW, Central lake in Michigan, is nowhere near the center of Michigan. It's just a name.

VApeople 08-23-2023 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2248761)
Traffic is already bad at certain times during the day down here. 301 can be a nightmare.

If you bought a house that requires you to drive on 301 south of Wildwood, you have only yourself to blame.

South of Wildwood, 301 is a little meandering country road, just like it was in 1952 when my family and I traveled from Ohio to Fort Myers. However, thanks to The Villages, it will soon be a nice 4-lane highway, and you will probably be much happier.

Randall55 08-23-2023 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrChip72 (Post 2248828)
The developer has never shared what their total planned construction is. They also bought new land 4 months ago even.

Central lake is named after Central lake in Western Michigan just as around 100 other things in TV have been named after other places in Western Michigan. BTW, Central lake in Michigan, is nowhere near the center of Michigan. It's just a name.

Not going to argue. If you do not believe the Developer has already purchased enough land to double the size of the Villages, that is your choice. Developer Buying more parcels of land 4 months ago supports the OP, it does not negate it. The present Villages south will no longer be the south and Eastport will be in the middle of the Villages. (Argue as you wish exactly how much in the middle, it doesn't matter.) The OP's main point was that the population of the Villages is going to explode.

Never said Central Lake was in the center of Michigan. I merely Looked up the history of Central Lake and found it is in the center of a chain of lakes. Hence the name. And, that is what I wrote in my post.

Randall55 08-24-2023 12:24 AM

Just received a PM that suggested I look at the Villages Continuing the Dream Videos- A Closer Look at Eastport.

In it Tracy Morse states: when we were renaming the roadway system, we realized we were in the middle of our property. Central Pkwy seemed appropriate. After renaming the highway, we followed through by naming the lake, Central Lake, after an area we grew up in while living in Michigan.

Straight from the horse's mouth. This is how Central Pkwy and Central Lake were named.

margaretmattson 08-24-2023 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2248839)
Just received a PM that suggested I look at the Villages Continuing the Dream Videos- A Closer Look at Eastport.

In it Tracy Morse states: when we were renaming the roadway system, we realized we were in the middle of our property. Central Pkwy seemed appropriate. After renaming the highway, we followed through by naming the lake, Central Lake, after an area we grew up in while living in Michigan.

Straight from the horse's mouth. This is how Central Pkwy and Central Lake were named.

I watched the video. Interesting how the Morse family tied the names of the Pkwy and Lake together. I had no idea Eastport was named because it will be on the east side of the lake. And, that Eastport also happens to be a place in Michigan where they grew up. Nice tie-in by Tracy Morse!

From the description of Eastport by the Morse sisters, it sounds like the place is going to be spectacular. Looking forward to the indoor pickleball courts and the rock climbing wall. Knowing they have purchased quite a bit of land, I wonder what else they have in store. Can't wait!

Stu from NYC 08-24-2023 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2248877)
Knowing they have purchased quite a bit of land, I wonder what else they have in store. Can't wait!

Statehood?

Randall55 08-24-2023 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2248877)
I watched the video. Interesting how the Morse family tied the names of the Pkwy and Lake together. I had no idea Eastport was named because it will be on the east side of the lake. And, that Eastport also happens to be a place in Michigan where they grew up. Nice tie-in by Tracy Morse!

From the description of Eastport by the Morse sisters, it sounds like the place is going to be spectacular. Looking forward to the indoor pickleball courts and the rock climbing wall. Knowing they have purchased quite a bit of land, I wonder what else they have in store. Can't wait!

The video certainly puts that why spread a rumor nonsense to rest.

Randall55 08-24-2023 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2248922)
Statehood?

Don't they have a flag? On their way!

BlueStarAirlines 08-24-2023 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2248835)
If you bought a house that requires you to drive on 301 south of Wildwood, you have only yourself to blame.

However, thanks to The Villages, it will soon be a nice 4-lane highway, and you will probably be much happier.

301 is being widened is a great example of proactive road management. Its heavy, but not a complete standstill. If there is to be concerned about a road, look at those that need to use Powell Rd (CR 462) from 466A north. It goes from four lanes down to two. You'll have tons of churches and housing with no any road widening. The estimate is that it will be bumper to bumper throughout the day once all the development is done.

VApeople 08-24-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueStarAirlines (Post 2248955)
If there is to be concerned about a road, look at those that need to use Powell Rd (CR 462) from 466A north. It goes from four lanes down to two. You'll have tons of churches and housing with no any road widening. The estimate is that it will be bumper to bumper throughout the day once all the development is done.

I completely agree!!

We live in Osceola Hills and we often drive to the Wildwood area. I think that a lot of people living in the new areas south of 44 pay city taxes to Wildwood, and the city is using the money for their own benefit.

Wildwood is approving new developments in the 'suburbs' along 44A and 301 and along Powell Road north of 466A, and I agree it is going to make traffic much worse along those roads.

Our personal solution? Avoid that area, but that will be heartbreaking for us. We have some Oakwood BBQ in our refrigerator and I plan to enjoy it right now!

JMintzer 08-24-2023 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2248963)
I completely agree!!

We live in Osceola Hills and we often drive to the Wildwood area. I think that a lot of people living in the new areas south of 44 pay city taxes to Wildwood, and the city is using the money for their own benefit.

Wildwood is approving new developments in the 'suburbs' along 44A and 301 and along Powell Road north of 466A, and I agree it is going to make traffic much worse along those roads.

Our personal solution? Avoid that area, but that will be heartbreaking for us. We have some Oakwood BBQ in our refrigerator and I plan to enjoy it right now!

Just go the the one in Lady Lake on 441/27...

Bilyclub 08-24-2023 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStarAirlines (Post 2248955)
301 is being widened is a great example of proactive road management. Its heavy, but not a complete standstill. If there is to be concerned about a road, look at those that need to use Powell Rd (CR 462) from 466A north. It goes from four lanes down to two. You'll have tons of churches and housing with no any road widening. The estimate is that it will be bumper to bumper throughout the day once all the development is done.

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2248963)
I completely agree!!

We live in Osceola Hills and we often drive to the Wildwood area. I think that a lot of people living in the new areas south of 44 pay city taxes to Wildwood, and the city is using the money for their own benefit.

Wildwood is approving new developments in the 'suburbs' along 44A and 301 and along Powell Road north of 466A, and I agree it is going to make traffic much worse along those roads.

Our personal solution? Avoid that area, but that will be heartbreaking for us. We have some Oakwood BBQ in our refrigerator and I plan to enjoy it right now!



It's not Powell Road North of 466A and it's not 462 South of 466A. Just to clarify things.


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