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donassaid 10-28-2020 10:48 AM

So sick of hearing and reading comments condemning others for not wearing masks. Did none of you read the recent statement by the CDC where they admitted that 84% of those who tested positive for Covid 19 wore a mask most of the time (14%) or ALL the time (70%)! What does that tell you???? If a doctor offered you two drugs for cancer treatment and one had an 84% probability of causing serious side effects and tge other only 16%, which one would you take. We, who are part of tge 16% believe masks do more harm than good. How often do you touch them after touching something else? How often do you wash them? Wearing a mask forces you to breathe in your own carbon dioxide which can cause pleurisy and severely damage your immune system, making you more susceptible to the virus. So wear a mask if you must. I will pass and continue to put up with tge verbal abuse of those who actually believe that a mask works.

LiverpoolWalrus 10-28-2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1853475)
Wearing a mask forces you to breathe in your own carbon dioxide which can cause pleurisy and severely damage your immune system, making you more susceptible to the virus.

That’s pretty alarming. Do you have a source for that?

Can mask wearing lead to or cause pleurisy? | Covid-19 Expert Database

Jerseygirl08 10-28-2020 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 1851442)
I saw a woman in the market who had a face shield on and had a sticker that said "my mask protects you and your mask protects me". I felt like telling her she wasn't protecting anyone but didn't want to start an argument.

I saw a Walmart employee wearing a shield and across the top piece was written, "Please stay 6 ft. away"! I also saw a man walking in the square with the same kind of face shield. The message written across the top of it: "Get 6 ft. away from me". Really? Again, a chance for already angry people to dump their anger onto others, sad.

coffeebean 10-28-2020 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1853475)
So sick of hearing and reading comments condemning others for not wearing masks. Did none of you read the recent statement by the CDC where they admitted that 84% of those who tested positive for Covid 19 wore a mask most of the time (14%) or ALL the time (70%)! What does that tell you???? If a doctor offered you two drugs for cancer treatment and one had an 84% probability of causing serious side effects and tge other only 16%, which one would you take. We, who are part of tge 16% believe masks do more harm than good. How often do you touch them after touching something else? How often do you wash them? Wearing a mask forces you to breathe in your own carbon dioxide which can cause pleurisy and severely damage your immune system, making you more susceptible to the virus. So wear a mask if you must. I will pass and continue to put up with tge verbal abuse of those who actually believe that a mask works.

That tells me that not enough people are wearing masks so they are protecting the people around them. Wearing the mask is not nearly as protective if the people around you do not wear masks. If everyone around you wears a mask, THAT is when it is protective to everyone.

coffeebean 10-28-2020 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1853475)
So sick of hearing and reading comments condemning others for not wearing masks. Did none of you read the recent statement by the CDC where they admitted that 84% of those who tested positive for Covid 19 wore a mask most of the time (14%) or ALL the time (70%)! What does that tell you???? If a doctor offered you two drugs for cancer treatment and one had an 84% probability of causing serious side effects and tge other only 16%, which one would you take. We, who are part of tge 16% believe masks do more harm than good. How often do you touch them after touching something else? How often do you wash them? Wearing a mask forces you to breathe in your own carbon dioxide which can cause pleurisy and severely damage your immune system, making you more susceptible to the virus. So wear a mask if you must. I will pass and continue to put up with tge verbal abuse of those who actually believe that a mask works.

NOT TRUE.......

Does Wearing a Face Mask Reduce Oxygen—and Can It Increase CO2 Levels? Here'''s What Experts Say | Health.com

coffeebean 11-02-2020 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1853491)
That’s pretty alarming. Do you have a source for that?

Can mask wearing lead to or cause pleurisy? | Covid-19 Expert Database

Anti-maskers will resort to all sorts of excuses for not covering their faces, non of which are valid. They refuse to do their part to slow the spread of this virus and I have no respect for any of them.

coffeebean 11-02-2020 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl08 (Post 1853525)
I saw a Walmart employee wearing a shield and across the top piece was written, "Please stay 6 ft. away"! I also saw a man walking in the square with the same kind of face shield. The message written across the top of it: "Get 6 ft. away from me". Really? Again, a chance for already angry people to dump their anger onto others, sad.

Personally, I would not wear that message anywhere on my person. Having said that, I see nothing wrong with reminding people to socially distance. There are too many people out there that forget we are in the middle of a pandemic with no vaccine at this point. There are too many people who do not respect others who are trying to live their lives the best way they can while doing it safely.

Pettys1 11-02-2020 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ladyarwen3 (Post 1851389)
I see so many people wearing only a clear face shield at indoor events (church, shopping, rec center events) where masks are required. These shields are useless to protect anyone--neither the wearer nor the other attendees are helped by these shields. They are designed to be worn in combination with a mask. Are people wearing them only to comply with regulations? Or are they misinformed into thinking that they are safe?

I am saddened to think that I will no longer attend these events because of the actions of a few others. I cannot risk bringing COVID home to my family.

Some people can't wear mask so they try to do there part. But like always you have those who complain bout everything

Pettys1 11-02-2020 08:45 AM

That is true.... People are getting bad headaches.My niece works in a restaurant an has to have one on for 10 hrs. She has to run an hind so she can pull her mask off to get air.An having really bad headaches her Dr said she needs to get fresh air at least every 30 minutes or so. So which medical advice to you believe? What media say or what your Dr says?

Pettys1 11-02-2020 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Skunky1 (Post 1852958)
Coronavirus in the villages-Our bocce group has been playing bocce for several months now with from 16 to 24 players. Last week we were notified by one of the players that they tested positive for coronavirus. It is real. It is here. All play was conducted according to CDC guidelines.

If they are testing for coronavirus, then yes they maybe positive. Coronavirus is a common cold. All you have to do is research. Now Covid is something else. Alot of people test positive to Corina cause it's just a cold. Doesn't mean you have Covid

Altavia 11-02-2020 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pettys1 (Post 1855451)
That is true.... People are getting bad headaches.My niece works in a restaurant an has to have one on for 10 hrs. She has to run an hind so she can pull her mask off to get air.An having really bad headaches her Dr said she needs to get fresh air at least every 30 minutes or so. So which medical advice to you believe? What media say or what your Dr says?

Maybe try the light weight disposable masks if not already.

Number 10 GI 11-02-2020 04:29 PM

The last two times I went to my doctor my oxygen level was low when they were taking my vitals. The nurse told me to lift up my mask and take a couple deep breaths and instead of having a 91% level it went up to 98% where it usually is when I test it myself at home without a mask. I have excellent lungs and no respiratory problems. The nurse said that it was pretty common with patients when they take vitals.

coffeebean 11-03-2020 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1855649)
The last two times I went to my doctor my oxygen level was low when they were taking my vitals. The nurse told me to lift up my mask and take a couple deep breaths and instead of having a 91% level it went up to 98% where it usually is when I test it myself at home without a mask. I have excellent lungs and no respiratory problems. The nurse said that it was pretty common with patients when they take vitals.

My pulse ox was 98% with my cloth mask on. I have no answer for you beyond what I have experienced.


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