Hi Challenger: Those getting green ID cards are on the house's deed. The most common reason why blue (temporary) ID cards are issued is because either parents are caring for disabled offspring or offspring are caring for disabled parents. In regard to the former situation I personally have never seen very many children of village parents utilizing amenities. The only way parents can get their offspring green ID's is to place them on the deed, otherwise they have to renew every three years.

You are correct that before making such a decision a lawyer should be consulted.

The issue presented here is not a horse or a chair its about an agreement we all made when we bought into this Lifestyle. I have come across people who explained that they moved from here because it was a waste of money as they were not utilizing the amenities. In my personal situation the only amenity I use is golf which cost me $141 plus change per year. In many homes only one person plays golf and yet they too like singles pay the same rate..

Some on here would suggest that we utilize some type of apportionment, a deduction i amenity fee if a resident doesn't use the pool, etc.

Names on the deed equate to households and amenities are based on per household. It is legal, it is fair, it discriminates fairly and it was sanctioned by each resident when they sign their closing papers.

As for singles it appears there are many social opportunities available to them. In fact don't we continually read of residents we have met here in TV and married . It appears that they didn't see the need for an ID card in order to resume their dating life....and then as one poster aptly pointed out then we have Mr. Midnight. Just imagine if he had an extra ID card with all the women he claims to have dated TV would have to hire one full time employee just to keep him up with a new ID card for his next significant other .

Personal Best Regards:

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How's the weather up there in R.I.?

That's why it's a gated community so to speak. The squares are free to the public, but amenities must be paid for by someone. That someone is the homeowners who have made that commitment by being on deeds, whether married or just living together but sharing the investment of a home. Let's face it, TV is a very successful real estate retirement story, and that is why we chose to live this lifestyle here. Guest passes are for friends and family for short periods of time. A permanent guest pass would allow someone to live in TV, and enjoy all of the amenities without the commitment of home ownership. Is that fair to couples, married or not, who have invested large amounts of money for a second or permanent home. People who have chosen TV and a particular community because this is where they want to live? They have shown their commitment, they are not just guests.

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So many people on here talk about the fact that we all bought into a lifestyle, and that is very true. If everyone was able to "tweek" the things they either didn't like, didn't use, or thought was unfair, I can't even imagine what the lifestyle would be like.I think the rules are as fair to all as they can be. That does mean there aren't things I would like to change, but again, in a huge place like this, you will never please everyone.

I most certainly agree with what you have stated and this decision my parents made was done under the council of a lawyer. Both my sister and I were widows when this took place so there were no issues with the home getting caught up down the line in a divorce settlement if that should have happened.

Fortunately my parents did very good estate planning, and this combined with the fact that I have a wonderful sister we were able to settle our parent's estate very easily. I know this is probably the exception rather than the norm, as I have several friends who have dealt with home deed nightmares.

First off. I'm not a villager, but plan on buying a house next year. I won't be looking for a relationship as I'll be coming off of a long one, but you never know where the path takes you.

Having said this, this discussion has gone a bunch of different directions. It started with Joe just wanting to bring a date to a function. What's wrong with that? Are villager's so snotty that you can't welcome a date from someone who lives there? I see nothing in his posts that says his date wants to start taking over clubs and facilities, nor attending without Joe. I've read the rules and I get it, and I'm ok with it. But geez, it's a guy wanting to bring a girl that doesn't own a house here. What's the big? Some of these comments come off as we can only breed with our own. Seems pretty one sided. I also understand, that many are married an could care less about the singles, but doesn't everyone at least have the chance to find that someone?

Right now it is 35.5 in Bristol, overcast, and a little windy. As long as there is no "white stuff" on the ground I am happy.

Well stated and exactly my point!!!

Oh, nevermind. I should quit reading this thread.

I told me I should quit and I didn't listen.

Where is the /// key?

We are a minority and the only way out is to organize, elect representatives and make ourselves a voice. That will scare the daylights out of people, who are already afraid that if we date those represented above as the local lowlife, it will as Joe said, retilt earth's axis.

On behalf of "locals" Many of whom Are my friends from church, you should not judge character by where people live.
As a single, I reject the implication that your judgement should guide me who is worthy to date. Good grief,shut up Kitty. I am turning myself in to the moderator for personal sidebar.

The original poster can bring dates to a number of activities such as the entertainment at Katie Belle's. Other venues require everyone to have a Village ID. Nothing, including the rules we all agreed to when we bought property here, is stopping him from finding someone. If you are planning on buying in the Villages, I would recommend you read the restrictions before signing on the dotted line. Before The Villages, I lived in another deed restricted community. I heard numerous complaints over the years about various restrictions being unfair because the complainers either never read the restrictions or thought that they shouldn't apply to them. Deed restricted communities are not for everyone.

Originally Posted by gratefulparrot View Post
First off. I'm not a villager, but plan on buying a house next year. I won't be looking for a relationship as I'll be coming off of a long one, but you never know where the path takes you.

Having said this, this discussion has gone a bunch of different directions. It started with Joe just wanting to bring a date to a function. What's wrong with that? Are villager's so snotty that you can't welcome a date from someone who lives there? I see nothing in his posts that says his date wants to start taking over clubs and facilities, nor attending without Joe. I've read the rules and I get it, and I'm ok with it. But geez, it's a guy wanting to bring a girl that doesn't own a house here. What's the big? Some of these comments come off as we can only breed with our own. Seems pretty one sided. I also understand, that many are married an could care less about the singles, but doesn't everyone at least have the chance to find that someone?
Well stated and exactly my point!!!
:bigbow: I agree. And I'm married, for the record.

:ho::ho::ho: hats off..a married person who accepts singleness.

Help me out here 2BNTV. I'm trying to figure out just where the problem is. I can see that without a guest pass or ID, that a non-resident can't use the pools, attend a class or activity at a rec center, or play golf or tennis or pickleball. But they can go to the squares and enjoy the music, attend concerts a the Savannah Center, go to the movies, eat at the restaurants including the country clubs, etc. So, much of the ambiance of TV is available, just certain things are not.

Just to reiterate what I observed at the AAC, if an exception is made for what appears to be a reasonable request, how does TV refuse a equally reasonable request? Where does it stop?

Further, let's say they allow non-resident "permanent" guest IDs. Those with friends at Stonecrest (just an example, not to reopen that can of worms again!) could get them an ID, and those with friends in Ocala, and those with friends in Bushnell, and so on. How do we differentiate? Does it have to be the opposite sex? Well that discriminates by gender. Do we place a limit? That discriminates against new Villages residents. And if a limit, how many? 1000? 10000? 20000?

So, what activities are you looking for admission to with your friend?

Jan, the nugget above is..if we didn't embrace change women wouldn't vote....

People with a lord's advantage over others go to great lengths to rationalize that it is actually fair and just, perhaps to keep from experiencing the cognitive dissonance of admitting they enjoy having rewards while others are denied. And perhaps in fear that if their hoarding of privilege is openly known, they might lose their special status and become equals with those whom they can consider lesser.

Nobody married even wants to glance at why singles have a higher tax bracket because it is damnably impossible to justify. Singles are a minority class, and we are treated as less important and less due rights.

I don't think anyone cares if non residents come and enjoy the restaurants, shops and even going to Katie Belles. I, for one, welcome them.
The problem lies when someone outside has a Village ID and is now on the golf courses, line dance and other classes, etc.
It's hard in season for residents to get on the golf courses sometimes. The line dance classes are so packed you can hardly dance.
It does become a problem when residents are getting shut out of golf because non residents who don't pay amenity fees are out there.
There is no easy solution. Most of us will probably face this as we get older and lose a spouse.