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mac9 07-11-2010 09:06 AM
Firearms, even with a conceal permit, are forbidden in schools (both public and private), state and federal parks, anywhere where alcohol is served, pharmacies, post offices, and all government (federal, state, and municipal) buildings.

Talk Host 07-11-2010 09:32 AM
I would remind everybody that living in the Villages does not shield you from real life. Don't forget there was a drug related homicide in The Villages a few years ago (in a private home). I was called for jury duty for that murder trial.

There have been dozens of home invasions, many of them while the homeowners were present.

Life in the Villages is wonderful, but please don't ever think that you are immune from real crimes being committed against you.

Most people choose not to carry a gun. Those that do are within their rights and have a slight upper hand when faced with a life threatening situation.

JLK

Talk Host 07-11-2010 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mac9 (Post 274496)
Firearms, even with a conceal permit, are forbidden in schools (both public and private), state and federal parks, anywhere where alcohol is served, pharmacies, post offices, and all government (federal, state, and municipal) buildings.

I believe handguns are now allowed in National Parks. I may be wrong, but I think that was recently announced.

laryb 07-11-2010 09:56 AM
I don't carry a concealed weapon and don't plan to, but I do believe it's your right to. Having said that, I don't want to see everyone "packing heat" either. Now I can't speak for Redwitch, but I certainly understand her situation. A woman entering to inspect or maintain multiple homes everyday alone has every right to be able to protect herself. There are sicko's everywhere.

Bogie Shooter 07-11-2010 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 274508)
I would remind everybody that living in the Villages does not shield you from real life. Don't forget there was a drug related homicide in The Villages a few years ago (in a private home). I was called for jury duty for that murder trial.

There have been dozens of home invasions, many of them while the homeowners were present.

Life in the Villages is wonderful, but please don't ever think that you are immune from real crimes being committed against you.

Most people choose not to carry a gun. Those that do are within their rights and have a slight upper hand when faced with a life threatening situation.

JLK
Is this an opinion or are there facts somewhere that I can look up?

dpingram 07-11-2010 10:55 AM
I know that FL and Va have reciproca laws covering concealed weapons. As a VA resident if I travel to FL I can conceal my weapon but when I go through NC I have to have it out and visible. In VA you could not take a gun in an establishment that serves alcohol. That law was changed this year. You may take a gun in you just can't consume alcohol.
I wouldn't imagine that you would need a gun out and about in TV but you never know. The Town centers are public and so are the main roadways. I don't carry my gun everytime I go out. If I travel alone or am out at night I do put it in the car.
I'm not sure how the gun in Wal-Mart went off. My gun has a SAFETY.

dpingram 07-11-2010 10:59 AM
reciprocal (I left out the l)

mac9 07-11-2010 11:04 AM
Talk Host, you are absolutely right about national parks. It was prohibitted when I received my permit.

pooh 07-11-2010 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 274525)
Is this an opinion or are there facts somewhere that I can look up?
Searching online here quickly at TOTV brings up one instance....in Feb, 2009, Feb. 11th, on page C4 of The Daily Sun, a report of a forced entry here in our community. I'm sure there are other reports.

Before we moved here, I was told by a friend who has lived here for many, many years, that there are some thefts, break-ins, etc, but not on the same scale as outside of the community. While that isn't definitive proof, I do realize that no area is immune from crime. My neighbor had a delivery of aluminum for her new cage arrive while she was away. Her housesitter was awakened in the night by noises outside. It was discovered that thieves had tried to steal the material. At daylight, many pieces of the unassembled structure were found on the golf course hole her house faces.

Living here I feel much safer than where I did live previously. Neighbors are more aware of "different" in the neighborhood, they watch out for each other, help others, willingly offer time and energy to make their friends and neighbors feel happy and cared for. There seems no other place quite so nice.. :) Well, there probably is, but I have a lot of pride in my new hometown and can't imagine any place is quite like TV.

Pats2010 07-11-2010 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 274485)
I suppose one can never tell when someone will draw on you. Or we could have gunfights at the town squares on alternate Saturday's at noon.
Tell your joke to the victims of Fort Hood.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801...me_and_courts/

Pturner 07-11-2010 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 274508)
Most people choose not to carry a gun. Those that do are within their rights and have a slight upper hand when faced with a life threatening situation.

JLK
TH, I remembered an earlier post of yours on this subject that I found thought provoking. I'm curious if you've changed your view. The earlier one:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 274508)
I wonder how many people have ever pointed a loaded gun at a human being. I have. Let me tell you, all bets are off.

The thousands, no millions, of people who gloat that they will "blow away" anybody that threatens them, or breaks into their house, have no idea what it's like to hold somebody's life in their hands.

If you make the wrong decision in a split second, your whole life is lost. You can lose your house, your family, your home, or your life. If you make the wrong decision, you can spend the rest of your life in prison. In any event, you will spend the rest of time wondering if you did the right thing, or if their could have been an alternative.

When I was much younger, I was a cop for four years in Mahoning County, Ohio. I thought my uniform and my gun were a great equalizer. That notion faded fast the first time I had a man in my gun sight. Worse yet is the feeling when a wrong doer has you in his gun sight.

Aside from all the obvious ramifications of using a gun for defense in your home, I investigated a case where a man's wife lost most of her hearing permanently when her husband discharged a .357 magnum in their bedroom, shooting at an intruder. The intruder who was serious injured, but survived, was their drunk neighbor who wandered onto the wrong patio.

JLK

graciegirl 07-11-2010 12:15 PM
There will be no changing minds of people who are afraid here.

I see no reason to be afraid here.

Or to carry a gun.

Pats2010 07-11-2010 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 274543)
There will be no changing minds of people who are afraid here.

I see no reason to be afraid here.

Or to carry a gun.
I hope you are right, but you know what they say, about someone who hasn't been mugged yet. I wish there was no such thing as evil people. ( I also wish there was a Santa Clause);)

Taltarzac 07-11-2010 02:17 PM
Hope that they have mandatory training on how to use a gun.
 
I have an acquaintance here in the Villages whose wife thought that there was an intruder in the house. She ended up shooting the vacuum cleaner. I guess it shifted after someone put it a way.

I would think that a security level can of pepper spray would be as good as a handgun in most situations you would encounter in the Villages.

byars 07-11-2010 02:29 PM
for those against guns ive heard wasp spray is a good tool because of the range and what will do to someones eyes!! i prefer my s&w revolver. dont need a safety and very safe to use.


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