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coffeebean 11-15-2020 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1861092)
Even with Florida's 9% positivity rate and rising with a bullet there is a much chance of the gov of this state doing that as there is the current "leader" of the country doing that ...... ie. not a chance in h3ll.

Oh, going back to the OP it has just been announced that PUBLIX, COSTCO, WALMART and a few others will once again begin limiting the number of people in the store to (IIRC 20%). And here we go again. Perfect timing for The Villages to open the squares without limit. Bahhhh, Hopefully that won't last long either because when all the "young'uns" come down here for T'Giving to see Grammy and Grampy and dance the night away to Rocky and the Elders things certainly will go from bad to worse. Absolutely BRILLIANT move by T.V. (NOT!).

I just started another thread about empty shelves in Publix and Target. THIS must be the reason for the hoarding once again.

Anti CDC guidelines folks do not realize the negative impact we all are experiencing because they refuse to mitigate the virus and slow the spread. We are once again having to endure limits in essential businesses. Who knows what will be next? Cities across the US are imposing curfews and lock downs.

What is it going to take for these folks who will not abide by CDC guidelines to do their part? Every day, these people are putting people and the economy at risk. When will they realize their stance on masks and social distancing is what is causing this havoc in our country?

I want our old lives back. Everyone should do their part to slow the spread of this virus. WEAR A MASK AND KEEP YOUR DISTANCE FROM OTHERS............PLEASE!

Lindsyburnsy 11-15-2020 11:02 AM

Constitution? Do you wear a seatbelt? Do you submit to a search if asked to, at the airport? Rules, laws and policies are put in place for a reason. Sometimes there are consequences when they are not followed. Why is it asking too much to put on a mask?

dhdallas 11-16-2020 11:23 AM

Who cares!
 
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Originally Posted by cyrilwood (Post 1858191)
Good news for those who have the virus and want to spread it or just want to get it- walmart on wdgewood is not enforcing wearing a mask. Yesterday P.M. i saw families and individuals not wearing masks.

Nobody cares! Hide at home if you need to.

Dana1963 11-16-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cyrilwood (Post 1858191)
Good news for those who have the virus and want to spread it or just want to get it- walmart on wdgewood is not enforcing wearing a mask. Yesterday P.M. i saw families and individuals not wearing masks.

We might never get out to normal soon.
Norwegian Cruise Line, Carnival, and Royal Caribbean all announced on Monday that they will be canceling trips into 2021. Cruise ships won't be setting sail in U.S. waters until next year, as major cruise lines continue to postpone their itineraries due to the COVID-19 pandemic.Nov 3, 2020

graciegirl 11-16-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1858387)
Nothing more motivating than lining governments pockets. It’s all about money.

I think that is an exaggeration to say anyone would expect someone to wear a mask in their own home. I cannot see how being careful is "lining government pockets". I do not see that any guidelines directed to stop a serious illness is a violation of anyone's constitutional rights. I remember Polio. I remember being quarantined indoors with a sign on the door with childhood diseases. We lived through those restrictions. We never questioned them.

Until we get a vaccine, which will be much sooner than many hoped, it is wise to be careful and wear a mask when you are around anyone who is not a family member of your household. You can be a long time DEAD.

On the other hand, I don't see how a change of administrations will really make much difference in the spread of this disease. Some people will not do anything they are told to do.

Velvet 11-16-2020 01:02 PM

I wore my mask at home, when I flew back north in March. We didn’t know much about the virus those days so I wore my mask all the time for the sake of hubby and slept in a different section of the house for 2 weeks. I wanted to take no chances and we had peace of mind. The mask did not bother me at all, it was the same as wearing socks.

coffeebean 11-16-2020 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1861770)
We might never get out to normal soon.
Norwegian Cruise Line, Carnival, and Royal Caribbean all announced on Monday that they will be canceling trips into 2021. Cruise ships won't be setting sail in U.S. waters until next year, as major cruise lines continue to postpone their itineraries due to the COVID-19 pandemic.Nov 3, 2020

I will not be cruising until hubby and I are vaccinated. Just heard this moring the Moderna vaccine has a 94.5% efficacy. Sign me up!!!

coffeebean 11-17-2020 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pettys1 (Post 1858881)
Then you have a right not to go to those stores just like they have they right to go . You wear your mask don't worry bout what someone else is doing

How about all these latest lock downs and curfews that cities are having to go through AGAIN. Why is that happening? Because too many people do not comply with CDC guidelines and wear a mask and social distance. Our epidemiology experts have been pleading with the American people to wear masks and keep our distance from others and not to congregate in large groups. If people would only be compliant, lock downs would not be necessary.

These lock downs will be another "hit" to the economy thanks to all of those people who refuse to wear masks in public indoor spaces and keep their distance from others.

coffeebean 11-17-2020 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1859448)
I disagree with you. I was on a cruise ship during the last week before cruise lines were forced to shut down. It was awesome, we had a blast, ate in dining rooms packed full of people, attended concerts, sat shoulder to shoulder laughing with other customers...it was fun and relaxing and we all survived just fine. We got home and suddenly going to the store was "risky".

All of this Clorox, sterilized, 10 foot pole distancing is stressful and not particularly helpful because people are still getting this virus and the vast majority are experiencing mild cold symptoms if that. This has been a psychological experiment in government control more than anything else.

I can only assume you were not on that sick Princess ship. If no one on the cruise ship you were on had Covid, then of course, everyone on that ship was free to have a great time as you described. Problem is.......you just don't know who may be carrying the virus because of pre-symyptomatic and asymptomatic carriers. Another unknown is that you do not know how many of your fellow passengers became sick once they got off the ship you were on. Who knows....passengers may have contracted the virus when they were in port then got back on the ship not knowing they were infected. That is how this vicious virus works.

I'm one of the many people who love to cruise. I miss it and welcome the time when stepping on a cruise ship will not possibly make me sick and die of Covid. I also want to be able to step on a cruise ship and not have to wear a mask and social distance from my fellow passengers. How is this going to happen? Follow CDC guidelines until our population can become immune with the vaccine. That is how. I can wait.

Timothyimitchell 11-17-2020 07:01 AM

Live your life! Masks do not work.

Lindsyburnsy 11-17-2020 07:28 AM

Unfortunately, what others do can impact me and if you get sick, the heathcare workers who are already exhausted have to care for you. I think they should exercize their right and not take care of you if you chose to not wear a mask. We hv to protect each other. Why is this so difficult to understand? It’s your right to go or not go to a store. However if you go to the store wear a mask.
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Originally Posted by Pettys1 (Post 1858881)
Then you have a right not to go to those stores just like they have they right to go . You wear your mask don't worry bout what someone else is doing


biker1 11-17-2020 07:38 AM

There are a few problems with your suggestion, not the least of which is that is not how they operate and how would anyone know if you were wearing a mask or not when you became infected. Remember, a large number of healthcare workers have become infected and they are using PPE. Many, but not all, stores require face masks. Don't frequent those stores what don't require face masks. Masks are not binary - you can become infected while wearing a mask and many people who wear masks are not wearing them correctly. With one exception, the vast majority of people are wearing masks inside stores/facilities that I have been to.

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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1861999)
Unfortunately, what others do can impact me and if you get sick, the heathcare workers who are already exhausted have to care for you. I think they should exercize their right and not take care of you if you chose to not wear a mask. We hv to protect each other. Why is this so difficult to understand? It’s your right to go or not go to a store. However if you go to the store wear a mask.


Swoop 11-17-2020 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1858375)
Very different approach up north in Massachusetts. 14 day quarantine for anyone coming to the state, unless coming from one of 6 designated low risk states. Masks are mandatory, with a fine for violation, everywhere in public, both indoors and outdoors, even if you can social distance. Indoor gatherings limited to 10 people and 25 outdoors. All non-essential businesses must close by 9:30 PM (just about everything except for hospitals) and curfew in place (with fines for violations) between 10 PM and 5 AM.

Here is hoping that today’s news of an effective vaccine are real?

And yet with all those restrictions, the number of new positive cases in Massachusetts is spiking. In fact, based on their population, they are spiking at a rate that is much higher than Florida, despite all those restrictions...

YouNeverKnow 11-17-2020 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1862025)
And yet with all those restrictions, the number of new positive cases in Massachusetts is spiking. In fact, based on their population, they are spiking at a rate that is much higher than Florida, despite all those restrictions...

Could it be because it’s cold now in Massachusetts 40 during the day 20 degrees at night) and more people are gathering inside which has been show to transmit the virus much more easier than outside. (Maybe not following the 10 person limit or mask wearing because who can enforce everyone?) Since the weather is now beautiful in Florida people can gather outside. Just wondering.....

Advogado 11-17-2020 09:34 AM

The number of anti-mask posts on this site illustrate why our County Commission must adopt a mask requirement before our hospitals are overrun and more Floridians unnecessarily die. Thirty-five states and a number of Florida counties have already done this. Does Your State Have a Mask Mandate Due to Coronavirus? Beyond the veil: What mask requirements are in place in Florida?


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