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CarrieOn 07-22-2020 04:45 AM

Or people may react to it differently ..contagious is contagious..symptoms are symptoms depending on your health..
wear a mask,wash & sanitize your hands,don’t touch your face. Stay away from the compromised..I’d hate to be the asymptomatic one to give it to my parents..as I am their life line ..

kendi 07-22-2020 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1806646)
I wont disagree with your statements, in general. But yesterday i had a conversation with a clerk in one of the stores here. Her brother, who has severe asthma, got covid and it looked like he wasnt going to survive. Fortunately, he pulled through. His wife tested positive but asymptotic. Their son tested negative. A false negative on the test? Perhaps. But maybe it isnt as contagious as they claim.

I question those claims too. Seems many more people would be infected if it was as contagious as some claim.

Dgizzi 07-22-2020 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1806515)
I don't know how many were Villagers, specifically but, the Villages is in the corners of three different counties - not just Sumter. Marion and Lake county have parts of the Villages in them as well.

In the three counties, a total of 88 people are dead now, from COVID-19. That's 88 people who have spread their virus to everyone they were in contact with, within 3 weeks of their deaths. That means - for three weeks before they were dead - they spread that virus to others. And then they died.

You can keep track of it here: Experience

It is more accurate and up to date than the one that comes directly from the state health department, because it includes data that the state health department has chosen not to publicize.

Thank You! So many people think The Villages makes up all of Sumter county so when they see numbers it’s the villages. They don’t pay attention and we have a prison here and about 300 I think tested positive there inmates and employees! Sumter county has other people living here besides us Villagers!

gregcharlesnelson@gmail 07-22-2020 07:03 AM

I heard 1400 cases in TV

Byte1 07-22-2020 07:18 AM

Approx. 52,000 Villager residents in Sumter Co. There have been 8 or 9 reported deaths attributed to the virus. The death to positive tests is low. There is all kinds of testing areas in and around the Villages. The tests performed have been ramped up and hundreds or even thousands have been tested, just in the Villages area. So, considering the amount of tests and that only positives have been reported, the death ratio is very low.
It is hard to find data on just the Villages area when it comes to deaths, but the media sure enjoys putting out sensational headlines about how COVID 19 is "exploding, surging, overwhelming, etc." the Villages. I would like to see stats on the ratio of positive tests to negative tests. I would also like to see the stats on how many are hospitalized due solely to the virus. I bet there will be someone on here that will produce that information.
If you figure just the percentage of deaths to population of just the Sumter co. portion of the Villages it would be something like 8 or 9 divided by Approx. 52,000 residents (give or take a hundred or so). I believe that comes out to less than 2 one hundredths of a percent, if I am not wrong.

Bill1701 07-22-2020 07:19 AM

I think it is impossible to tell with the information available to us. Many have died, but did they die from Covid-19 or did they die from something else but had the virus? Neither side trusts the government's numbers.

Huskies 07-22-2020 07:22 AM

Look at The Villages News, they tell more the the Villages newspaper

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-22-2020 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Martian (Post 1806525)
There is significant evidence that Florida DOH is "cooking the books". So, it is very difficult to know how many have actually died. Sadly, one side believes the books are being cooked to inflate the numbers, the other believes the numbers are being cooked to reduce the numbers.

However, the scientist that was hired to collect and disseminate the information was fired for "refusing to reduce the numbers", and they replaced her with someone else. Then magically we had fewer cases and fewer deaths.

The link I posted above yours directs you to the COVID-19 dashboard developed by that very scientist. It is similar to the official one but contains as much of the data as she is able to gather from the hospitals AND the CDC AND individual city sources, and not just selected snippets culled and tossed out of context on the page like the "official" one does.

That's why I linked this one. It's more complete, more detailed, more accurate, contains context which makes it easier to understand.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-22-2020 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1806632)

Her sex life has NOTHING to do with her qualifications. She is the most qualified among them all to create, number-crunch, and present the COVID-19 dashboard. Which is why SHE is the one who created the original - and has created the one she presents now.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-22-2020 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1806738)
Lake county has had the most deaths. It is the largest of the three counties and only a very small part of The Villages is in Lake County.

I don't recall where, but I've seen the number of cases and deaths for all three and The Villages. Most of the recent deaths have been in long term care facilities and the prison.

With a combined population of 865,000 it seems that the number of cases, 6787 and number of deaths, 88 is extremely low Especially given the average age of the people.

The number of cases is .7% (less that one percent) of the population and the number of deaths is almost immeasurable.

It seems to me that we are doing the right things.

The virus has only existed since March. So that's 4 months. During half of it, there were snowbirders here. The snowbirders have since returned to their winter homes.

That "combined population" - does it include snowbirders who aren't even in the state anymore?

GoodLife 07-22-2020 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mendy (Post 1806859)
Remember, as of last week Trump is not allowing hospitals to report to the CDC. Everything is being controlled by the Feds........so just wear your mask and do what you can to stay safe!.

Trump administration orders hospitals to bypass CDC in reporting COVID data - CBS News

LOL The CDC is a federal agency. The numbers now go direct to HHS also a federal agency, which oversees the CDC. This was done to streamline data collection. The CDC is just an aggregator of State data. All states have their own websites where the data can be accessed by the public.

Bonnevie 07-22-2020 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1806732)
Or maybe the fact that only a bit more than 1% of the US population has the virus.

Perhaps its time for those that live in fear to stop watching the talking heads on TV.

or the lower rate may be due to all us listening and following guidelines...

GoodLife 07-22-2020 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Martian (Post 1806525)
There is significant evidence that Florida DOH is "cooking the books". So, it is very difficult to know how many have actually died. Sadly, one side believes the books are being cooked to inflate the numbers, the other believes the numbers are being cooked to reduce the numbers.

However, the scientist that was hired to collect and disseminate the information was fired for "refusing to reduce the numbers", and they replaced her with someone else. Then magically we had fewer cases and fewer deaths.

Fake news. The lady who was fired is not a scientist. She was fired for not following directions of the actual scientists. She also recanted her data manipulation story in an email.

Helen Aguirre Ferré, wrote in an email to reporters after the news conference that Jones “exhibited a repeated course of insubordination during her time with the Department, including her unilateral decisions to modify the Department’s COVID-19 dashboard without input or approval from the epidemiological team or her supervisors.”

Ferré's email included the email that DeSantis referenced. Sent Saturday, Jones told her supervisor that her comments about the employees replacing her had been misconstrued.

“What I meant when I said I don’t expect the same level of accessibility is that they are busy and can’t answer every single email they get right away,” Jones wrote to her supervisor. “Is this one of those stupid things I shouldn't have said?”


This lady has a criminal record and is under active investigation for cyber stalking.

44Apple 07-22-2020 08:04 AM

So, basically no one knows how many deaths have occurred within the Villages borders. All kinds of stats published by all kinds of sources, but nothing clear.

noslices1 07-22-2020 08:05 AM

Too many cases
 
[QUOTE=Gpsma;1806732]Or maybe the fact that only a bit more than 1% of the US population has the virus.

Perhaps its time for those that live in fear to stop watching the talking heads on TV.[/QUOTE
Over 3.000.000 cases is too many. Hopefully the vaccine will be available soon.


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