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Bizdoc 10-26-2013 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 768628)
He obviously did something wrong because he was arrested. I can't imagine how scared the people were in the car that he attacked. He is already guilty. It's just a matter of how much time he spends behind bars. If I were the victim, I would certainly press charges. There's no excuse for this type of behavior. And yes, let the justice system do its job.

And clearly should be executed. Maybe we can get a hanging scheduled for Brownwood during the Halloween festivities.

seriously, you're not guilty until the jury says you are.

Steve & Deanna 10-26-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 768370)
Its the developer's fault for not doing background checks before selling a property.

I don't feel that the developer has anything to do with it as it is personal responsibility; however, you may have stumbled onto something as a background check is not a half bad idea. I'm sure that other senior communities do this. When a community grows, other bad elements can come into play. As for the perpetrator, five days in jail and a $2000 fine would certainly cool his heels after causing harm to one of our own and destroying property. You just don't play nice with these type of people.

graciegirl 10-26-2013 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve & Deanna (Post 768738)
I don't feel that the developer has anything to do with it as it is personal responsibility; however, you may have stumbled onto something as a background check is not a half bad idea. I'm sure that other senior communities do this. When a community grows, other bad elements can come into play. As for the perpetrator, five days in jail and a $2000 fine would certainly cool his heels after causing harm to one of our own and destroying property. You just don't play nice with these type of people.

I am pretty sure, in fact I am absolutely sure that Bogie was kidding.

This man is guilty. I read it in The Daily Sun and have come to that conclusion, Bizdoc. You and I usually agree, so DON'T confuse me.

graciegirl 10-26-2013 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bizdoc (Post 768586)
While I am not usually the one to suggest tolerance (as the folks who dumped on me for suggesting low IQ on the part of a certain car driver on the multimodal path), I would like to point out something important.

One of the things which happens in Alzheimer's (and some other dementias) is the folks often retreat from rational to lizard (primitive) brain. They become much more easily angered and much more likely to physically strike out. And in this wonderful paradise of ours lurk a lot of folks who either have or will have dementia.

Had an interesting chat summer of 2012 with a psychiatrist who treated patients in nursing homes. He related seeing a growing number of veterans (usually WWII or Korea) who developed dementia and reacted violently to various triggers (like loud noises).

Hopefully all of us fine folks on TOTV won't be cursed with acting out when we lose our marbles.

I wonder if he has a record of violent behavior from whence he came.

I understand your stance and think you are always quite fair, however if he was trained in the impatient driving states, he could go ballistic here in a very short time. Did I tell you about the guy who went around me at a stop sign?

He was a Yankees fan.

BritParrothead 10-26-2013 08:16 AM

road rage
 
What a dreadful little man!!:shocked:

Steve & Deanna 10-26-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 768388)
This is violence pure and simple and this person HAS to be a menace to his housemate and to his neighbors. Wow.

Thomas Regina. I am going to look up where he lives.


According to Sumterpa.com they moved into that house just LAST month.

Great detective work Gracie. You need to meet my wife at some point.

Steve & Deanna 10-26-2013 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 768388)
This is violence pure and simple and this person HAS to be a menace to his housemate and to his neighbors. Wow.

Thomas Regina. I am going to look up where he lives.


According to Sumterpa.com they moved into that house just LAST month.

As I mentioned your post and detective work to my wife ....as she is making blueberry muffins MMMMMMMMMMM, she said that she should have a PI (private investigative) business with you to weed out the bad element.

kfierle 10-26-2013 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 768388)
According to Sumterpa.com they moved into that house just LAST month.

He may have moved to Hadley last month from elsewhere in The Villages.

Cedwards38 10-26-2013 08:37 AM

This goes to show.............there is no bubble...anywhere....ever, danger can be anywhere, live freely but with a cautious eye, and accept the fact that even good people can make really bad mistakes if the conditions are such to trigger them. Who knows what events led up to this incident, or what emotional turmoil the persons were experiencing.

graciegirl 10-26-2013 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve & Deanna (Post 768760)
As I mentioned your post and detective work to my wife ....as she is making blueberry muffins MMMMMMMMMMM, she said that she should have a PI (private investigative) business with you to weed out the bad element.


It is called the NOSY gene.

It is latent in some women, but not in me.

My daughter calls me Mrs. Kravitz.

Villageshooter 10-26-2013 08:43 AM

We have all become the same animals of the jungle preying upon one another with complete disregard for human life and joyously rejoicing in the bad adventures of others the true villages comes out!

Taltarzac725 10-26-2013 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 768764)
This goes to show.............there is no bubble...anywhere....ever, danger can be anywhere, live freely but with a cautious eye, and accept the fact that even good people can make really bad mistakes if the conditions are such to trigger them. Who knows what events led up to this incident, or what emotional turmoil the persons were experiencing.

I would tend to agree with what happened to the victims in this incident, but using a baton like that shows some very serious disregard for the safety of the people you use this against. It does not sound like he had any kind of psychotic break from the news report. Psychotic breaks can come from all kinds of reasons but this man was carrying a baton with him and seemed to be looking for trouble.

Bogie Shooter 10-26-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 768803)
I would tend to agree with what happened to the victims in this incident, but using a baton like that shows some very serious disregard for the safety of the people you use this against. It does not sound like he had any kind of psychotic break from the news report. Psychotic breaks can come from all kinds of reasons but this man was carrying a baton with him and seemed to be looking for trouble.

Maybe couldn't get a "carry" permit and chose the baton instead?

scot_atc 10-26-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 768765)
It is called the NOSY gene.

It is latent in some women, but not in me.

My daughter calls me Mrs. Kravitz.

Sorry for not being on point but...This post is a big reason we can't wait to get down there. Very few people we work with have any idea who Mrs Kravitz is. Looking forward to being the "young kid" again. :laugh:

Taltarzac725 10-26-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 768810)
Maybe couldn't get a "carry" permit and chose the baton instead?

True. Except that I would hope that anyone who has a carry permit would only pull a gun when he/she can justify using lethal force. A blow to the head with a baton could be lethal.

elevatorman 10-26-2013 11:25 AM

I was looking at the website Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine and as near as I can figure this guy faces up to 30 years and up to a $30,000 fine. Battery on a person 65 and over, the way I read it, is a minimum of 3 years in prison. If found guilty.

Tweety Bird 10-26-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 768583)
Was it a twirlers baton? No offense to the Village Twillers cuz I think you all are great...just wondering what type of baton it was.

probably one of those little sticks the maestro uses for the orchestra. :-)

Tweety Bird 10-26-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 768685)
Huh!....Boy, this guy was a wild man!

I would hope his wife doesn't tick him off.

She might get the whip!

Parker 10-26-2013 12:21 PM

Oh dear, where do I start? Okay, first, this guy is dangerous. This incident, almost certainly, won't have been his first meltdown, perhaps not his first run-in with the law. He will suffer for his actions, in ways like his neighbors shunning him, the legal ramifications and expense, potential jail time, the outing of his name, address, and picture.

While there is a big part of me that says 'good', there is another little part that says perhaps a prior poster could be right about the effects of dementia, or some other overwhelming condition he may suffer from. That niggling little part says 'enough already', let's let the system work and reserve judgement until all the facts are known. I say all this because my grandfather, such a good-hearted gentle man all his life, hit a nurse when hospitalized with Alzheimer's. He wouldn't have known himself at that stage. Let's just wait before crucifying him. It's the right thing to do for now, IMHO.

old moe 10-26-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 768334)
The Villages on-line news identified the perpetrator as Thomas Regina, 63, a resident of the Village of Hadley. Regina posted bond and was released from the Sumter County jail after being questioned.

Never a need for this type of action no matter what the other driver did. Anyone with this type of temper should never get out on bail, he needed to spend the night inside if for no other reason than TOO COOL OFF.:spoken:

graciegirl 10-26-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by old moe (Post 768967)
Never a need for this type of action no matter what the other driver did. Anyone with this type of temper should never get out on bail, he needed to spend the night inside if for no other reason than TOO COOL OFF.:spoken:

I think you are right, old moe and even to evaluate if he had other issues.

tucson 10-26-2013 03:13 PM

He could have dementia, the nursing homes are full of people who assault others for no reason b/c of this illness.

tucson 10-26-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Parker (Post 768903)
Oh dear, where do I start? Okay, first, this guy is dangerous. This incident, almost certainly, won't have been his first meltdown, perhaps not his first run-in with the law. He will suffer for his actions, in ways like his neighbors shunning him, the legal ramifications and expense, potential jail time, the outing of his name, address, and picture.

While there is a big part of me that says 'good', there is another little part that says perhaps a prior poster could be right about the effects of dementia, or some other overwhelming condition he may suffer from. That niggling little part says 'enough already', let's let the system work and reserve judgement until all the facts are known. I say all this because my grandfather, such a good-hearted gentle man all his life, hit a nurse when hospitalized with Alzheimer's. He wouldn't have known himself at that stage. Let's just wait before crucifying him. It's the right thing to do for now, IMHO.

I didn't read your post before I just posted almost the same thing re; Dementia and Alzheimer's patients, I know from personal experience working in the hospitals and nursing homes. I've been punched, screamed at, etc. Even my mother when she was a volunteer was punched in the face when giving Communion to a wheelchair bound patient.

graciegirl 10-26-2013 03:22 PM

Call me skeptical. This is a place with over 100 thousand people who are over the age of 55. I think law enforcement here are pretty familiar with issues of aging.

2BNTV 10-26-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 768370)
Its the developer's fault for not doing background checks before selling a property.

Very funny. Thanks for the laugh. :1rotfl:

Seriously, GOD only knows what's going on this man's mind. I am sure he regrets losing his cool.

The lesson learned is that he would have be better off waiting a couple of seconds instead of being arrested and going through a time consuming process.

Obliviously, he was dead wrong in his actions.

jdsl1998 10-26-2013 04:02 PM

This story saddens me....as do some of the comments on this thread.

tucson 10-26-2013 04:06 PM

We have a lot of brain injured Vets also coming home from all the wars in the Mideast don't forget.......

Karron 10-26-2013 04:18 PM

[QUOTE=rubicon;768347]I am surprised that people who live in TV are surprised that criminal activity occurs here. I mean some folks may believe they live in a bubble but they may consider that the DOME may be a fun show on TV but is feasible.

About the "BUBBLE"...
When I drove around with The Villages Sales people they almost laughed at me when I asked if the home I was considering had an alarm system!
Then they said, "you don't really need one here, most people don't install them in their homes!......?????
Karron

( I guess I bought the BUBBLE Story...)

John95019 10-26-2013 04:24 PM

Seems to me that a lot of people are commenting about this guy and they don't even know the full story.

aframe 10-26-2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by John95019 (Post 769032)
Seems to me that a lot of people are commenting about this guy and they don't even know the full story.

I agree!!

BettyCrocked 10-26-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jdsl1998 (Post 769018)
This story saddens me....as do some of the comments on this thread.

No kidding. :ohdear:

Gabbi1393 10-26-2013 04:43 PM

crazy, I too am in no hurry. Rather arrive somewhere safe. Maybe the guy in front of him isn't used to the roundabouts. Geez, relax

jdsl1998 10-26-2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by John95019 (Post 769032)
Seems to me that a lot of people are commenting about this guy and they don't even know the full story.

Well said...

graciegirl 10-26-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jdsl1998 (Post 769050)
Well said...

Is there something else we need to know? Some guy was impatient waiting behind someone to pull in the circle and got out of his car and started a fight and broke some one's windshield and punched some woman who was 68.

Could it be he was an alien from Mars and didn't know the traffic rules?

Could it be that he carried a baton because he was a drum major?

It could be that he had impulse control issues, but that isn't a reason to overlook what he did.

What is it that we are missing?

I have known almost a dozen people with dementia in my life and no one hurt anyone. It is possible, but would his family allow him to drive?

It looks pretty much like he was a jerk to me.

skyc6 10-26-2013 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 769151)
Is there something else we need to know? Some guy was impatient waiting behind someone to pull in the circle and got out of his car and started a fight and broke some one's windshield and punched some woman who was 68.

Could it be he was an alien from Mars and didn't know the traffic rules?

Could it be that he carried a baton because he was a drum major?

It could be that he had impulse control issues, but that isn't a reason to overlook what he did.

What is it that we are missing?

I have known almost a dozen people with dementia in my life and no one hurt anyone. It is possible, but would his family allow him to drive?

It looks pretty much like he was a jerk to me.

If he was 63, then his mother cannot be 68. Also, what burglary took place? I know the charge was said to include burglary, but what was stolen? I don't think the facts were presented correctly or very well in the paper. rewrite!:cus:

Indydealmaker 10-26-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by skyc6 (Post 769173)
If he was 63, then his mother cannot be 68. Also, what burglary took place? I know the charge was said to include burglary, but what was stolen? I don't think the facts were presented correctly or very well in the paper. rewrite!:cus:

The 68 year old woman was the mother of the driver of the car that was attacked. The attacker was 63.

Pepperhead 10-26-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by skyc6 (Post 769173)
If he was 63, then his mother cannot be 68. Also, what burglary took place? I know the charge was said to include burglary, but what was stolen? I don't think the facts were presented correctly or very well in the paper. rewrite!:cus:

Burglary means illegal entry with intent to commit a felony. Nothing has to be stolen.

gamby 10-26-2013 11:02 PM

Life in danger,

Stand your ground first,
Shoot second.

Carl in Tampa 10-26-2013 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bizdoc (Post 768730)
The device that most call a "billy club" is usually referred to as a baton (which I think is French for "short rod" as in a Field Marshall's baton.

The French word baton is generally translated into English as stick.

Thus, the Louisiana capital of Baton Rouge is translated Red Stick.

Why Red Stick? The European-American history of Baton Rouge dates from 1699, when French explorer Sieur d'Iberville leading an exploration party up the Mississippi River saw a reddish cypress pole festooned with bloody animals that marked the boundary between the Houma and Bayou Goula tribal hunting grounds. They called the pole and its location le bāton rouge, or the red stick.

I love trivia.

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wendyquat 10-26-2013 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tweety Bird (Post 768897)
I would hope his wife doesn't tick him off.

She might get the whip!


Let's just hope if he's still at home in December that he likes Christmas! It looks to me like he lives one street away from Dunkirk where the "musical Christmas houses" are on display!


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