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Jaggy 10-25-2013 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 768562)
:a20:I would say quite the opposite is true. I see a lot of people exhibiting an adjustment disorder.

HEY !! I am proud of my adjustment, specially my mental one !! :loco:

BobnBev 10-25-2013 06:36 PM

alleged perpetrator----really-----really?????

Chazz 10-25-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 768497)
I'm glad he didn't have a gun

Although it may not seem intuitive, depending on the type and how it is used, a baton can be even more lethal than some guns. Just imagine someone bludgeoned to pieces with an iron pipe designed to maximize devastation. Not pretty.

Indydealmaker 10-25-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 768386)
Could be the same person that wrote "ugly" notes on the guest checks at Olive Garden and left no tip as reported on another Thread yesterday.

What makes this incident very dangerous is that this guy could pull this on someone who is "carrying" and this type of incident would escalate into a self defense shooting.

Better than even odds that just showing a weapon would be sobering. Never take a baton to a gun fight, unless you are a seal.

Jaggy 10-25-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 768580)
Better than even odds that just showing a weapon would be sobering. Never take a baton to a gun fight, unless you are a seal.

Or a Majorette in a short skirt.

perrjojo 10-25-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chazz (Post 768573)
Although it may not seem intuitive, depending on the type and how it is used, a baton can be even more lethal than some guns. Just imagine someone bludgeoned to pieces with an iron pipe designed to maximize devastation. Not pretty.

Was it a twirlers baton? No offense to the Village Twillers cuz I think you all are great...just wondering what type of baton it was.

Bizdoc 10-25-2013 07:15 PM

While I am not usually the one to suggest tolerance (as the folks who dumped on me for suggesting low IQ on the part of a certain car driver on the multimodal path), I would like to point out something important.

One of the things which happens in Alzheimer's (and some other dementias) is the folks often retreat from rational to lizard (primitive) brain. They become much more easily angered and much more likely to physically strike out. And in this wonderful paradise of ours lurk a lot of folks who either have or will have dementia.

Had an interesting chat summer of 2012 with a psychiatrist who treated patients in nursing homes. He related seeing a growing number of veterans (usually WWII or Korea) who developed dementia and reacted violently to various triggers (like loud noises).

Hopefully all of us fine folks on TOTV won't be cursed with acting out when we lose our marbles.

justjim 10-25-2013 07:25 PM

Bizdoc: I hear what you are saying as long as the person is still held responsible for their acts of violence. "it's not my fault because ....... Doesn't "cut it" in my world.

patfla06 10-25-2013 07:48 PM

Feel sorry for his wife and wouldn't want to be his neighbor!

senior citizen 10-25-2013 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 768583)
Was it a twirlers baton? No offense to the Village Twillers cuz I think you all are great...just wondering what type of baton it was.

Great minds think alike. I was wondering the same thing earlier.
What was he doing with a baton? My husband thought perhaps it was just a metal rod?? which the reporter called a baton??

senior citizen 10-25-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bizdoc (Post 768586)
While I am not usually the one to suggest tolerance (as the folks who dumped on me for suggesting low IQ on the part of a certain car driver on the multimodal path), I would like to point out something important.

One of the things which happens in Alzheimer's (and some other dementias) is the folks often retreat from rational to lizard (primitive) brain. They become much more easily angered and much more likely to physically strike out. And in this wonderful paradise of ours lurk a lot of folks who either have or will have dementia.

Had an interesting chat summer of 2012 with a psychiatrist who treated patients in nursing homes. He related seeing a growing number of veterans (usually WWII or Korea) who developed dementia and reacted violently to various triggers (like loud noises).

Hopefully all of us fine folks on TOTV won't be cursed with acting out when we lose our marbles.

You are so right on target with your description of the changing moods and personality of one with dementia or Alzheimers. Not all, but many become belligerent. I've mentioned this in the past when others have spoken of rudeness in restaurants. A little understanding would explain the change in behavior.

Some with dementia have a total personality change. The meek become arrogant and argumentative.........while the former naturally assertive types might now become meek and docile. One never knows.

Often there is a distinct and noticeable personality change.
Great patience and tolerance is necessary to deal with this.
Not condoning his "acting out" and injuring others, their vehicle, etc.
But irrational behavior like that is NOT normal. Belligerence and picking on family members is NOT normal. Striking out at perfect strangers is totally NOT normal.

Also, maybe he was coming off of some drug? Even nicotine reduction might cause erratic behavior. Sad, but true, that our society nowadays has so many on every type of psychotropic drug out there, plus prescription meds that often have strange side effects......even in normal folks.

Chazz 10-25-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 768583)
Was it a twirlers baton? No offense to the Village Twillers cuz I think you all are great...just wondering what type of baton it was.

Good question! Don't know for sure, but the fact that it was capable of breaking out car windows suggests that it was something more potent than a twirlers' baton.

e-flyer 10-25-2013 08:56 PM

Good thing his victim wasn't carrying a gun, it could have been a very different ending for the attacker. Millions in Florida have concealed carry permits, including folks here in TV. I would think twice before confronting/attacking someone. Best to call 911 if you have a legitimate problem.

Villageshooter 10-25-2013 09:14 PM

is this america?
 
i am wondering ,,,, this man has been accused of a crime ,, he is innocent until proven guilty!! while i admit it looks bad however if this defendant was a danger he wuld not have been released! let the system do its job! just think what ur doing to this man! before he has his day in court. he has NOT been found guilty, yet! i am No way condonig this behavior. just because you arrested does not mean u are guilty!

Happinow 10-25-2013 09:32 PM

No excuse
 
He obviously did something wrong because he was arrested. I can't imagine how scared the people were in the car that he attacked. He is already guilty. It's just a matter of how much time he spends behind bars. If I were the victim, I would certainly press charges. There's no excuse for this type of behavior. And yes, let the justice system do its job.


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