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Barefoot 10-26-2013 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 768673)
Innocent people get arrested all the time. Some even get tried and convicted.

In this case, there is little doubt of guilt and let's remember this turned himself in and stated he had no idea why he acted the way he did. It could have been a reaction to a prescribed medication; it could have been a reaction to an illegal drug (including steroids); it could be the beginning stages of Alzheimers or dementia. We don't know.

I agree that people should take responsibility for their actions but there can be mitigating circumstances. I get the feeling that something triggered this man and it's not just a simple case of unrestrained anger. It just doesn't sound like it from the news report.

It's definitely more complicated and dangerous than a normal case of road rage. He and his family must be so shaken and embarrassed. I sincerely hope he gets the help and resources he needs. And best wishes to the victims, they must have been terrified.

jebartle 10-26-2013 05:14 AM

Burglary with battery??????
 
Huh!....Boy, this guy was a wild man!




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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 768445)
According to The Villages on-line news, Thomas Regina, 63, of Hadley was charged with battery, burglary with battery and battery on a person 65 or older. He was released from the Sumter County jail on bond.

His photo is now posted.


ssmith 10-26-2013 06:46 AM

Wow,...
 
....I mean wow!!!!

Glad that his name and address are in the paper....it will get around and his neighbors will know...just sayin.... he may have a very short fuse or something like that!!!!I would want to know it if I lived close.

As to frequency of crime....I have been on this site long enough to know that this is not a frequent occuence and that is why it is discussed soooo much. It does seem though, that the good ole days of small town feel is changing slightly with more people around.

Taltarzac725 10-26-2013 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 768673)
Innocent people get arrested all the time. Some even get tried and convicted.

In this case, there is little doubt of guilt and let's remember this turned himself in and stated he had no idea why he acted the way he did. It could have been a reaction to a prescribed medication; it could have been a reaction to an illegal drug (including steroids); it could be the beginning stages of Alzheimers or dementia. We don't know.

I agree that people should take responsibility for their actions but there can be mitigating circumstances. I get the feeling that something triggered this man and it's not just a simple case of unrestrained anger. It just doesn't sound like it from the news report.

That sounded like the case to me. I do not believe that innocent people are arrested that often. It certainly happens but there is usually some political and or cultural reason for it. A small clique covering themselves or just arrogantly asserting their power over others. You find sociopaths who could not care less about how they treat others in every profession. I would bet law and politics have more than most other professions though. Racism of some kind. A lawyer more concerned with their statistics (win rate) than getting at the facts. A weak willed defendant who cannot take the pressure of an investigation. http://www.policymic.com/articles/44...ost-sociopaths

I worked with prisoners for about 23 months (June 1987- May 1989) at the Legal Assistance to Minnesota Prisoners Clinic at the University of Minnesota Law School and remember maybe two or three cases in the hundreds that I had some contact with either directly or indirectly while a Student and the Student Clinical Director Minnesota Correctional Facility-Stillwater (not sure of the proper title) which MIGHT have involved an innocent person. This involved cases I heard about as well. And we usually just were doing some kind of civil work for these many prisoners like divorces, name changes, civil liability, prison conditions, prisoner early release), etc. I did get to look at a lot of files however.

Just saying that for the most part the system seems to work. It certainly could be improved on however. There are too many areas where simplistic approaches to the complexities of human behavior and motivations often result in wrongs. Lack of any deep appreciation of the nuances of mental health seems to be one of these as would be painting sexual offenders with a very broad brush just to win votes or improve public relations.

It does sound like this man certainly needs therapy of some kind for lack of impulse control coupled with rage.

Bizdoc 10-26-2013 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 768607)
Great minds think alike. I was wondering the same thing earlier.
What was he doing with a baton? My husband thought perhaps it was just a metal rod?? which the reporter called a baton??

The device that most call a "billy club" is usually referred to as a baton (which I think is French for "short rod" as in a Field Marshall's baton.

Bizdoc 10-26-2013 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 768628)
He obviously did something wrong because he was arrested. I can't imagine how scared the people were in the car that he attacked. He is already guilty. It's just a matter of how much time he spends behind bars. If I were the victim, I would certainly press charges. There's no excuse for this type of behavior. And yes, let the justice system do its job.

And clearly should be executed. Maybe we can get a hanging scheduled for Brownwood during the Halloween festivities.

seriously, you're not guilty until the jury says you are.

Steve & Deanna 10-26-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 768370)
Its the developer's fault for not doing background checks before selling a property.

I don't feel that the developer has anything to do with it as it is personal responsibility; however, you may have stumbled onto something as a background check is not a half bad idea. I'm sure that other senior communities do this. When a community grows, other bad elements can come into play. As for the perpetrator, five days in jail and a $2000 fine would certainly cool his heels after causing harm to one of our own and destroying property. You just don't play nice with these type of people.

graciegirl 10-26-2013 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve & Deanna (Post 768738)
I don't feel that the developer has anything to do with it as it is personal responsibility; however, you may have stumbled onto something as a background check is not a half bad idea. I'm sure that other senior communities do this. When a community grows, other bad elements can come into play. As for the perpetrator, five days in jail and a $2000 fine would certainly cool his heels after causing harm to one of our own and destroying property. You just don't play nice with these type of people.

I am pretty sure, in fact I am absolutely sure that Bogie was kidding.

This man is guilty. I read it in The Daily Sun and have come to that conclusion, Bizdoc. You and I usually agree, so DON'T confuse me.

graciegirl 10-26-2013 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bizdoc (Post 768586)
While I am not usually the one to suggest tolerance (as the folks who dumped on me for suggesting low IQ on the part of a certain car driver on the multimodal path), I would like to point out something important.

One of the things which happens in Alzheimer's (and some other dementias) is the folks often retreat from rational to lizard (primitive) brain. They become much more easily angered and much more likely to physically strike out. And in this wonderful paradise of ours lurk a lot of folks who either have or will have dementia.

Had an interesting chat summer of 2012 with a psychiatrist who treated patients in nursing homes. He related seeing a growing number of veterans (usually WWII or Korea) who developed dementia and reacted violently to various triggers (like loud noises).

Hopefully all of us fine folks on TOTV won't be cursed with acting out when we lose our marbles.

I wonder if he has a record of violent behavior from whence he came.

I understand your stance and think you are always quite fair, however if he was trained in the impatient driving states, he could go ballistic here in a very short time. Did I tell you about the guy who went around me at a stop sign?

He was a Yankees fan.

BritParrothead 10-26-2013 08:16 AM

road rage
 
What a dreadful little man!!:shocked:

Steve & Deanna 10-26-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 768388)
This is violence pure and simple and this person HAS to be a menace to his housemate and to his neighbors. Wow.

Thomas Regina. I am going to look up where he lives.


According to Sumterpa.com they moved into that house just LAST month.

Great detective work Gracie. You need to meet my wife at some point.

Steve & Deanna 10-26-2013 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 768388)
This is violence pure and simple and this person HAS to be a menace to his housemate and to his neighbors. Wow.

Thomas Regina. I am going to look up where he lives.


According to Sumterpa.com they moved into that house just LAST month.

As I mentioned your post and detective work to my wife ....as she is making blueberry muffins MMMMMMMMMMM, she said that she should have a PI (private investigative) business with you to weed out the bad element.

kfierle 10-26-2013 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 768388)
According to Sumterpa.com they moved into that house just LAST month.

He may have moved to Hadley last month from elsewhere in The Villages.

Cedwards38 10-26-2013 08:37 AM

This goes to show.............there is no bubble...anywhere....ever, danger can be anywhere, live freely but with a cautious eye, and accept the fact that even good people can make really bad mistakes if the conditions are such to trigger them. Who knows what events led up to this incident, or what emotional turmoil the persons were experiencing.

graciegirl 10-26-2013 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve & Deanna (Post 768760)
As I mentioned your post and detective work to my wife ....as she is making blueberry muffins MMMMMMMMMMM, she said that she should have a PI (private investigative) business with you to weed out the bad element.


It is called the NOSY gene.

It is latent in some women, but not in me.

My daughter calls me Mrs. Kravitz.


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