Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1763826)

I am in the vulnerable age group. I'm in good health although technically I have high blood pressure and high cholesterol. I say technically because the miracles of modern medical science have provided me with medications that control both down to the accepted norm. Having said this, I FIRMLY agree it's time to reopen. This belief in no way is a knock on those who insist they need to stay isolated. Many of us do and should.

But consider this: The vast majority of TV'ers rely on Social Security, pensions, and savings to fund their retirement. The longer the economy remains shut down, the more danger grows that all three of these sources are threatened.

Take SSA, where the money to fund it comes from payroll deductions on those currently working. Latest stat this week is close to 30 million of those workers are not working and therefore not paying the SSA tax. What happens to you if the Government says, "sorry, no check this month"?

Pensions from a company rely on that company making contributions to it's retirement fund. If the company is shut down, where does the money come from to make that pensions payment?

Finally, your savings. Interest rates are less than 1% for most fixed investments. The stock market will continue to be a roller coaster ride for quite a while. No guarantee what you have today will be what you have tomorrow.

So I say, open up. Do it smart but open up. This virus will be around for a long time just like the flu. We cannot wait for the pipe dream of no more cases and no more deaths before we open up. those of us with underlying conditions are smart enough to take the right precautions such as masks, gloves, sanitizer, etc, when going out. We know to avoid large crowds and maintain social distancing even if others don't. The only way to control the spread of this virus at present is by increasing herd immunity. The fewer targets, the less virus. This does not mean everybody stay home because that only delays the inevitable spread that would result.

The vast majority of those who have been infected had no to mild symptoms. They need to get back to work for their sake and ours.

Originally Posted by Alto2548 (Post 1763847)

Too many people have been brain-washed by the media hype and trying to inform them otherwise is a waste of time.

Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1763826)

I am in the vulnerable age group. I'm in good health although technically I have high blood pressure and high cholesterol. I say technically because the miracles of modern medical science have provided me with medications that control both down to the accepted norm. Having said this, I FIRMLY agree it's time to reopen. This belief in no way is a knock on those who insist they need to stay isolated. Many of us do and should.

But consider this: The vast majority of TV'ers rely on Social Security, pensions, and savings to fund their retirement. The longer the economy remains shut down, the more danger grows that all three of these sources are threatened.

Take SSA, where the money to fund it comes from payroll deductions on those currently working. Latest stat this week is close to 30 million of those workers are not working and therefore not paying the SSA tax. What happens to you if the Government says, "sorry, no check this month"?

Pensions from a company rely on that company making contributions to it's retirement fund. If the company is shut down, where does the money come from to make that pensions payment?

Finally, your savings. Interest rates are less than 1% for most fixed investments. The stock market will continue to be a roller coaster ride for quite a while. No guarantee what you have today will be what you have tomorrow.

So I say, open up. Do it smart but open up. This virus will be around for a long time just like the flu. We cannot wait for the pipe dream of no more cases and no more deaths before we open up. those of us with underlying conditions are smart enough to take the right precautions such as masks, gloves, sanitizer, etc, when going out. We know to avoid large crowds and maintain social distancing even if others don't. The only way to control the spread of this virus at present is by increasing herd immunity. The fewer targets, the less virus. This does not mean everybody stay home because that only delays the inevitable spread that would result.

The vast majority of those who have been infected had no to mild symptoms. They need to get back to work for their sake and ours.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1763298)

We never hear about SARS anymore here in the US. Is it really a threat anymore? How many deaths are there annually for this virus? Maybe the SARS vaccine has been put on the back burner.

Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1763895)

Only issue is that everyone has an opinon on what is the smart way to open up. The good news is there are only a few people whose opinion matters, the bad news is not everyone will agree and will continue to provide subject fodder here.

Originally Posted by MOMOH (Post 1762819)

Just because the curve is flattening, and you will be able to get into a hospital for care, doesn't mean that you will be able to be cured. The problem with this disease is that in many cases it can't be cured and you only get into the hospital for them to try. Until there's a vaccine or cure this isn't over.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1763875)

I think most of us older folks are agreeing that open or closed, we are staying quarantined unless and until there is a remedy or a vaccine. I think anyone over 70 who doesn't do everything to stay away from any possible contacts is playing with death.

Originally Posted by DON10E (Post 1763915)

Never in human history have we ever quarantined the healthy. We have always quarantined the sick/vulnerable.

Until now.

Originally Posted by DON10E (Post 1763915)

Never in human history have we ever quarantined the healthy. We have always quarantined the sick/vulnerable.

Until now.

Originally Posted by canyonblue (Post 1764009)

Well the Democrats did it to Japanese-Americans during WW2 so they do have precedent.

Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1764271)

United States cases
Updated May 13 at 10:26 AM local
Confirmed
1,400,741
+22,098
Deaths
83,082
+1,543
Recovered
237,256
+17,443

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