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Jacob85 04-14-2022 09:18 AM

The anonymous complaints are harassment. If these violations are that important, then they should apply to everyone. A little cross about five inches tall is not the same as having junk cars in your yard. My problem is who decided the crosses were ornaments? Who decided what is included in these restrictions. If I were looking for a house, the property values would not go down if it were next door to a house with a cross. Aren’t property values the reason for restrictions? For every cross that is reported there are 10 more not reported! Also, if you are going to complain about someone, then put down your name! This process has turned neighbors against each other as then they try to find out who reported!

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-14-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2083213)
Research. All the information any potential buy is available on-line. People will spend more time researching new car reviews than they will looking into what a deed restricted community will mean to them.

"All" the information is absolutely not available online. Anyone who's ever hired a "handyman" to do work on their property, will not have official records of the work anywhere except maybe their china cabinet drawer. Anyone who's hired someone to do work without getting the proper permits, will not have official records of the work. Anyone who hired a contractor that claimed THEY would get the permits, but never actually got them, will not have official records of the work.

A new buyer will not see records of the work, because they won't exist. If there's an 8-year-old pool on your back lanai, and a neighbor complains the day after you move in, and that pool was put in by someone who never got permits or checked with ARC, then you're out of luck. An inspector won't tell you that there aren't any permits. He's not looking for permits. He sees a pool, he sees that it's in good condition, and that's it.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-14-2022 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacob85 (Post 2083453)
The anonymous complaints are harassment. If these violations are that important, then they should apply to everyone. A little cross about five inches tall is not the same as having junk cars in your yard. My problem is who decided the crosses were ornaments? Who decided what is included in these restrictions. If I were looking for a house, the property values would not go down if it were next door to a house with a cross. Aren’t property values the reason for restrictions? For every cross that is reported there are 10 more not reported! Also, if you are going to complain about someone, then put down your name! This process has turned neighbors against each other as then they try to find out who reported!

Imagine how much worse it'd be if they find out who reported, because you were required to give your name.

Meanwhile, deed restrictions and community standards should be either enforced, or not enforced. I live on the historic side. Our restrictions are fairly loose, but they do exist. Yes, we can put a tacky pink flamingo on our lawns if we want. And some of the neighbors do, and I'm okay with that because they keep those silly plastic decorations in good condition, not broken or covered with bird poop or surrounded by weeds. The white crosses are only marginally offensive - as long as they're not 8 feet high and on fire, they get a pass.

But the folks who don't take care of their lawns, which are looking more like patches of weed growing out of sand, those I object to. If you're going to have a lawn, you need to at least TRY to make it presentable. It doesn't need to be perfect. Especially if you're going to -also- park your car on your golf-cart driveway, instead of your actual driveway, thus putting ruts in the dirt because your car is too wide to fit all 4 wheels on that skinny concrete path.

PJackpot 04-14-2022 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wereback (Post 2082939)
I have never understood why so many people are against someone filing a lawful compliant for a deed compliance issue. If you read the papers you legally were required to sign it is what you must do to be a good villager. Years ago it was the job of neighborhood watch not sure why they stopped. Guess to much for them to do. I myself don't want this to become a community of anything someone puts in front of their house to be okay. I'm sure many of the loudest of you would soon change your mind when your next door neighbor started to fix up junk cars.

As I stated earlier, it is one thing to submit a legitimate complaint about someone in your own neighborhood, it is quite another thing to appoint yourself deed restriction police, cruising neighborhoods you are not a resident of looking for violations. Personally, I think you have to be a little disturbed.

roob1 04-14-2022 09:52 AM

These people are performing a valuable service. Who cares if they are disturbed really? Maybe those who violate the covenants they agreed upon are the disturbed ones! Why keep focusing on violation observers? No violation, nothing for the old ladies to report, right?


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Originally Posted by PJackpot (Post 2083466)
As I stated earlier, it is one thing to submit a legitimate complaint about someone in your own neighborhood, it is quite another thing to appoint yourself deed restriction police, cruising neighborhoods you are not a resident of looking for violations. Personally, I think you have to be a little disturbed.


Altavia 04-14-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2083315)
I thought I indicated my desire to find the information by requesting the site from someone who claims to know where it exists.

So again, please point me to where I can find (or not find) ARC approvals associated with my home.

When I ask a few months ago, For Districts Lady Lake, 1-10, they are available online,

A copy of the directions to view them can be obtained by emailing:

archreview@districtgov.org

For Districts 11-13, they were still under the developer's purview and they were not available online.

Stu from NYC 04-14-2022 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by roob1 (Post 2083471)
These people are performing a valuable service. Who cares if they are disturbed really? Maybe those who violate the covenants they agreed upon are the disturbed ones! Why keep focusing on violation observers? No violation, nothing for the old ladies to report, right?

A valuable service I think not. Who appointed them to this position?

They should have to give their name when they do this.

PJackpot 04-14-2022 10:04 AM

Deed Restrictions
 
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Originally Posted by roob1 (Post 2083471)
These people are performing a valuable service. Who cares if they are disturbed really? Maybe those who violate the covenants they agreed upon are the disturbed ones! Why keep focusing on violation observers? No violation, nothing for the old ladies to report, right?

No one asked them to perform this valuable service and no one else cares. If they want to perform a valuable service they should do community charity work, instead of aggravating everyone else because of their need to satisfy their own personal inadequacies.

roob1 04-14-2022 10:15 AM

Apparently The Villages does not require reporters to be appointed and supports an anonymous system. When one moves here, it is his/her responsibility to be aware of this. The aggravation begins when people choose to ignore their responsibilities, i.e. observing covenants. You can project blame all you want, but the genesis of the issue is noncompliance.

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Originally Posted by PJackpot (Post 2083479)
No one asked them to perform this valuable service and no one else cares. If they want to perform a valuable service they should do community charity work, instead of aggravating everyone else because of their need to satisfy their own personal inadequacies.


Bill14564 04-14-2022 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 2083472)
When I ask a few months ago, For Districts Lady Lake, 1-10, they are available online,

A copy of the directions to view them can be obtained by emailing:

archreview@districtgov.org

For Districts 11-13, they were still under the developer's purview and they were not available online.

First you find the meeting your application was reviewed at. Then you find the link to the softcopy of your application. Then you open the link to find the decision.

Since my house was built in 2014 and I purchased it in 2018, at which of the up to 60 meetings was there a review of any application that the previous owner might have submitted? That's the first piece of information needed to use those records.

Bill14564 04-14-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by roob1 (Post 2083480)
Apparently The Villages does not require reporters to be appointed and supports an anonymous system. When one moves here, it is his/her responsibility to be aware of this. The aggravation begins when people choose to ignore their responsibilities, i.e. observing covenants. You can project blame all you want, but the genesis of the issue is noncompliance.

That depends on which District and when. Recently, one of the districts (5? 7?) voted to no longer take anonymous complaints. I don't know the status of the other districts or whether that detail, anonymous or not, is available online.

Stu from NYC 04-14-2022 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by roob1 (Post 2083480)
Apparently The Villages does not require reporters to be appointed and supports an anonymous system. When one moves here, it is his/her responsibility to be aware of this. The aggravation begins when people choose to ignore their responsibilities, i.e. observing covenants. You can project blame all you want, but the genesis of the issue is noncompliance.

When the two old busybody biddies come to your house and you get notified of a bunch of issues will you be changing your tune?

roob1 04-14-2022 11:33 AM

No, since I believe the covenants apply to me and I abide by them, the old ladies can have a field day at my house.

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2083505)
When the two old busybody biddies come to your house and you get notified of a bunch of issues will you be changing your tune?


Stu from NYC 04-14-2022 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by roob1 (Post 2083511)
No, since I believe the covenants apply to me and I abide by them, the old ladies can have a field day at my house.

Put up a sign inviting them to lunch and a full inspection than.

retiredguy123 04-14-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2083514)
Put up a sign inviting them to lunch and a full inspection than.

They would probably write you up for the illegal sign.


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