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golfing eagles 04-14-2022 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2083550)
It would be nice if the neighborhood watch could set up speed traps for both cars and golf cars. And write up overgrown trees along the roads that are obvious safety hazards. And write up areas in neighborhoods where the residential roads are TOO NARROW (is asphalt so prohibitively expensive ?). And to prevent home break-in crimes...... the neighborhood watch should have an office with people watching street cameras and flying drones with cameras. and have quick access to notify a "rapid response" police intervention. Actually, I imagine that the neighborhood watch is just a fake "paper tiger" like the entrance gate with an override button that just gives a FALSE sense of TV Land being private and SAFE. We need a camera in the neighborhood vehicles to actually SEE what they do and if it is worth the costs to have them. More Police might be more cost effective.

Any particular reason that would be nice????? As in the Gestapo????? OMG, I saw a golf cart today and I think he was going 20.2 mph---call the executioner!!!!!! And he was passed by a car going 31mph----maybe the old biddies with the clipboard bought a radar gun and can turn him in too. Looking at how the Villages ranks in terms of crime rates, do you really think we are "unsafe", despite your view of gates and community watch????

Babubhat 04-14-2022 05:22 PM

Why is this not part of the real estate contract? Put in a clause seller warrants property in compliance or subject to damages.

Bogie Shooter 04-14-2022 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 2083592)
I thought you were in the “Defund the Police “ camp

Those posts were deleted………as usual political trolling.

retiredguy123 04-14-2022 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2083600)
Why is this not part of the real estate contract? Put in a clause seller warrants property in compliance or subject to damages.

There is nothing that would prevent the buyer from requiring the seller to provide a warranty like that. But, I think it would kill a lot of deals, especially in a seller's market.

fdpaq0580 04-14-2022 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2083606)
There is nothing that would prevent the buyer from requiring the seller to provide a warranty like that. But, I think it would kill a lot of deals, especially in a seller's market.

Instant deal killer. A good nit picker could find something wrong/out of compliance with a new home. If the home is a few years old, even if nothing has been done, there is a possibility something could be found if one tried. House for sale "as is, no warranty" will sell. Just like used cars.

biker1 04-14-2022 07:14 PM

A compliance issue with a new home (before you move in and start putting pink flamingos in the front yard)? Extremely doubtful. Even if you did the house is under warranty for the first year, the landscaping somewhat less.

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2083617)
Instant deal killer. A good nit picker could find something wrong/out of compliance with a new home. If the home is a few years old, even if nothing has been done, there is a possibility something could be found if one tried. House for sale "as is, no warranty" will sell. Just like used cars.


Bill14564 04-14-2022 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2083620)
A compliance issue with a new home (before you move in and start putting pink flamingos in the front yard)? Extremely doubtful. Even if you did the house is under warranty for the first year, the landscaping somewhat less.

If you are referring to a situation where the house had a deed restriction violation when it was sold and the problem transferred to the new owner, that has happened a few times in the recent past. The most talked about case currently is the 83 (?) year old woman that bought a house 20 years ago with a sidewalk. No warranty for that at all and certainly not after 20 years.

biker1 04-14-2022 09:03 PM

No, I was referring to a new home - just constructed. I was responding to the post about a new home. I would have thought that was obvious by the reference to a warranty for the first year.

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2083630)
If you are referring to a situation where the house had a deed restriction violation when it was sold and the problem transferred to the new owner, that has happened a few times in the recent past. The most talked about case currently is the 83 (?) year old woman that bought a house 20 years ago with a sidewalk. No warranty for that at all and certainly not after 20 years.


fdpaq0580 04-14-2022 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2083620)
A compliance issue with a new home (before you move in and start putting pink flamingos in the front yard)? Extremely doubtful. Even if you did the house is under warranty for the first year, the landscaping somewhat less.

Doubtful? My newly built home. So happy. Few years down the road the low spot in the yard is looking different. Smells sometimes and feels funny. Started digging. Found a huge grate over a sewer opening. The builder had laid ply over the grate, covered it with carpet, then laid sod on top. Looked great and we bought the home. Where did this happen. New TV home, purchased from TV sales, discovered years later by "accident". A compliance issue? Illegal? I have seen and experienced some weird stuff over the years and I have no doubt the clipboard vigilante could find new homes that had some kind of compliance issue if they new where to look.

Garywt 04-14-2022 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2082960)
My pet peeve is that every courtyard villa section has 5 parking spaces designated in the deed compliance document for visitor parking only. These spaces are quickly occupied by people who want to store their vehicles for months at a time, some of whom don't even live in the area. Neither The Villages nor the police will do anything to remove the vehicles, so they just sit there forever.

We only have 3 visitor spots and they are mostly filled.

Garywt 04-14-2022 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2082952)
What are you asking the buyers to do? Someone from out of the area is presented with an acceptable inspection report and a completed title search as part of a large stack of papers to sign. They don't know the area, they don't know what a CDD is or how they are put together, they don't know about ARC, they don't know about Community Standards, and they don't know about the complaint process. To me, it is asking too much of them to know to read the deed restrictions in detail and research what has or has not been approved for their house.

What I would like to see:
- Prior to closing, realtors advise buyers of the deed restrictions and the need to ensure there are no violations on the property they are purchasing
- Home inspections include a section covering deed compliance for the particular District
- Community Standards review the exterior of homes being sold and alert the seller, buyer, and realtor of any compliance issues
- Anything that exists when the home is sold is grandfathered as if approved and not subject to a complaint in the future.

Yes, there are problems with this, but it seems more reasonable than asking an unsuspecting buyer to do in-depth research or ask an owner to spend thousands to fix a violation that was present when they purchased the home 20 years ago.

There is a place that someone can pull up a street if not the actual address and see any permits that have been pulled. Buyers might not be able to find this but a realtor should. Then compare what was approved vs what was built, painted or changed.

Topspinmo 04-14-2022 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2083033)
It's perfectly clear cut to me. If it's not in compliance, regardless of when it happened, it has to be brought into compliance. If a Buyer is dumb enough not to check, shame on them.


Clueless.

biker1 04-14-2022 10:30 PM

It is certainly shoddy work but I don't see any violation of the deed restrictions. I would guess that most deed restriction violations are due to yard art. No problem with that with a new home. There was nothing with my new home that could have been in violation of the deed restrictions (which I did read).

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2083637)
Doubtful? My newly built home. So happy. Few years down the road the low spot in the yard is looking different. Smells sometimes and feels funny. Started digging. Found a huge grate over a sewer opening. The builder had laid ply over the grate, covered it with carpet, then laid sod on top. Looked great and we bought the home. Where did this happen. New TV home, purchased from TV sales, discovered years later by "accident". A compliance issue? Illegal? I have seen and experienced some weird stuff over the years and I have no doubt the clipboard vigilante could find new homes that had some kind of compliance issue if they new where to look.


Topspinmo 04-14-2022 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wereback (Post 2083099)
When you buy anything one of the first things you need to do is check the history, If you don't anything that turns up is yours and only your fault. That is so very CLEAR.


Yep I need the blueprints also paperwork with all the rules in hand and the knows to be able to interpret the lawyer’s garbage. I hope you didn’t buy resale if so something might come back and bit you in the —— you know where.

Topspinmo 04-14-2022 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2083639)
We only have 3 visitor spots and they are mostly filled.

My villa has none.


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