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Velvet 04-15-2022 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2083287)
Please point me to where I can find what ARC requests have been approved for my home.

Please point to where the 83 year old woman could have researched to find that her sidewalk was not part of the original home and where she too could have found (or not found) the ARC approval.

You can find the property survey at the registry office and read the deed restrictions of the district the house is in.

Bill14564 04-15-2022 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2083653)
You can find the property survey at the registry office and read the deed restrictions of the district the house is in.

Yes, but that doesn't solve the problem.

The survey will show where the house is located and an updated survey may even show the sidewalk that was put in prior to 2000. The deed restrictions will tell me about changing the color of my house or cutting down a large tree. But neither the survey nor the restrictions document will tell me that there was no approval for the sidewalk, that there are still fines hanging over the house because of the tree removal, or that there *was* approval for the odd color paint.

What I need, what any prospective buyer needs in order to perform the "due diligence" that some are calling for, is a way to look up all ARC applications for my home. That way I can use the property survey, deed restrictions, and visible inspection of my home to determine that something is amiss.

I sent a message to Deed Compliance asking for a way to perform such a search. You need to work through them to get this information, the homeowners cannot perform the search themselves.

MrFlorida 04-15-2022 07:40 AM

I like the rules, seems like those who don't are the ones that want to break them.

fdpaq0580 04-15-2022 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2083723)
I like the rules, seems like those who don't are the ones that want to break them.

I like rules, too. Potential problems occur as time passes and TV grows. Things that didn't need arc approval in the past may now require it. Interpretations of what is alright may have changed. Things that have been, apparently, accepted, and have caused no official complaint for years, through multiple owners are being called into question now? It causes a lot of consternation for a lot of people who should have no concerns. Those who have purchased and lived here for years without complaint have had to repaint, remove/change landscaping and more, costing time and money as, apparently, the clipboard vigilantes just get a kick out of hurting folks under the guise of doing their civic duty.
Perhaps the ARC should adopt a rule that anything not reported and has been in place without incident for 1 year is grandfathered in. The basic rules need no changes. Violations of health or safety would never be grandfathered, of course.

jimjamuser 04-15-2022 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2083551)
Where is all this crime that you think we need more police presence? Neighborhood watch is somewhat of a deterrent.

We had our home robbed 6 years back of about $6,000 worth of machine tools while we were gone over a weekend. It would have taken about 1/2 hour to load up all of that. Since then I have had a DISGUST for the idea that the Community Watch is a VALUABLE deterrent to crime. it is PERSONAL with me! I think they are just "window dressing" and a "paper tiger". How many criminals have they helped catch in the last year? Are those statistics in the newspaper? So, how can we evaluate their performance? My evaluation is "they ****

jimjamuser 04-15-2022 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2083551)
Where is all this crime that you think we need more police presence? Neighborhood watch is somewhat of a deterrent.

Very marginal. Do the costs outweigh the advantages. Has a study ever been done?

jimjamuser 04-15-2022 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 2083592)
I thought you were in the “Defund the Police “ camp

That is a good point because I can see where I might be thought of as a "defund the Police" type. But, I am more complicated than that. I can't be "pigeon-holed. I would like the Police to be more efficient and effective by employing other community services to take care of "the small stuff" and let the Police investigate the "big stuff" like murders and robbery.
You will even notice some suggestions for Community Service in my post. Suggestions that involve high tech.

jimjamuser 04-15-2022 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2083599)
Any particular reason that would be nice????? As in the Gestapo????? OMG, I saw a golf cart today and I think he was going 20.2 mph---call the executioner!!!!!! And he was passed by a car going 31mph----maybe the old biddies with the clipboard bought a radar gun and can turn him in too. Looking at how the Villages ranks in terms of crime rates, do you really think we are "unsafe", despite your view of gates and community watch????

I have had personal experience with being robbed of 6 thousand dollars. Maybe that will happen to you or someone else. The Village is a NATURAL target. We are surrounded by young "have NOTS" and we are OLDER "HAVES". I know for a fact that an expensive sports car was stolen when parked at a softball league game. The Daily Sun tries to avoid any news that shines a negative light on TV Land - in order to create a "bubble" of perfection with extreme safety. That is really a lie, believed by those that want to believe in "perfection"!

jimjamuser 04-15-2022 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2083723)
I like the rules, seems like those who don't are the ones that want to break them.

I disagree!

JMintzer 04-15-2022 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2083896)
We had our home robbed 6 years back of about $6,000 worth of machine tools while we were gone over a weekend. It would have taken about 1/2 hour to load up all of that. Since then I have had a DISGUST for the idea that the Community Watch is a VALUABLE deterrent to crime. it is PERSONAL with me! I think they are just "window dressing" and a "paper tiger". How many criminals have they helped catch in the last year? Are those statistics in the newspaper? So, how can we evaluate their performance? My evaluation is "they ****

So, you think that Community Watch should check on your house every 30 minutes?

Good luck with that...

retiredguy123 04-15-2022 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2083896)
We had our home robbed 6 years back of about $6,000 worth of machine tools while we were gone over a weekend. It would have taken about 1/2 hour to load up all of that. Since then I have had a DISGUST for the idea that the Community Watch is a VALUABLE deterrent to crime. it is PERSONAL with me! I think they are just "window dressing" and a "paper tiger". How many criminals have they helped catch in the last year? Are those statistics in the newspaper? So, how can we evaluate their performance? My evaluation is "they ****

Have you read the Community Watch annual reports at districtgov.org? In 2020, they completed 461,693 service actions. That is 1,265 actions per day. So, they are doing something that people want, but it is hard to determine how much crime they have deterred.

asianthree 04-15-2022 03:56 PM

So looked at a 1.5 mil house today, asked non villages listing agent if there was approval for the extensive landscape, and the house color?

Answer “ doesn’t matter, if you can afford the house, you can afford to fix it if not in compliance “ very assuring answer.

fdpaq0580 04-15-2022 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2083976)
So looked at a 1.5 mil house today, asked non villages listing agent if there was approval for the extensive landscape, and the house color?

Answer “ doesn’t matter, if you can afford the house, you can afford to fix it if not in compliance “ very assuring answer.

Dump that jacka$$ of an agent. He/she will gladly take the commission and spend your money and you time fixing stuff they know about.
Oh, might want to name the jerk as a warning to perspective buyer.

Stu from NYC 04-16-2022 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2083976)
So looked at a 1.5 mil house today, asked non villages listing agent if there was approval for the extensive landscape, and the house color?

Answer “ doesn’t matter, if you can afford the house, you can afford to fix it if not in compliance “ very assuring answer.

Not exactly doing their job are they.

JMintzer 04-16-2022 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2083976)
So looked at a 1.5 mil house today, asked non villages listing agent if there was approval for the extensive landscape, and the house color?

Answer “ doesn’t matter, if you can afford the house, you can afford to fix it if not in compliance “ very assuring answer.

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2084066)
Not exactly doing their job are they.

But according to some, the outside agents "have a code"!!! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


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