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Mleeja 04-24-2017 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1390767)
How many years will it take to sell all of the projected new homes on the newly purchased land at a sales rate of 2,200 new homes per year? The Villages is at the mature stage of its life? From the Orlando paper in 2016 -> Sales drop in The Villages while Lake Nona sales grow - Orlando Sentinel

Note: sales in 2016 were a little less than 2015 sales reported in the Orlando article.

However, maybe sales will increase with these land acquisitions?

I do not think the Orlando Sentinel is a fan of The Villages or the Morse family. I would take anything written in this paper about The Villages with a healthy dose of skepticism.

DARFAP 04-24-2017 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1390357)
We were told two for sure, three a possible

Who told you?

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manaboutown 04-24-2017 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1390352)
When a lot of us bought here it had nothing to do with seeking a profit. Any profit will most likely go to our kids. I have no interest in leaving.


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The real profit has already gone to the developer - which is just fine.

Barefoot 04-24-2017 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1390866)
I do not think the Orlando Sentinel is a fan of The Villages or the Morse family. I would take anything written in this paper about The Villages with a healthy dose of skepticism.

I so agree!!

Nucky 04-25-2017 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1390676)
I will need much more than a brush up. [emoji41]


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Ay, Dios Mío, Got you covered do not worry Amigo. :a20:

JMEZARIC3 04-25-2017 07:18 AM

Golf
 
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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1390029)
The Villages has purchased 652 acres of land south of County Road 44 that will guarantee golf cart access down to the Village of Fenney and the Village of Southern Oaks.

The announcement of the purchase was made Saturday night at a meeting for Villages sales associates.

The land is located near the Rohan Recreation Center south of County Road 44 and along County Road 468.

The area between 466 and 466A has 16 executive and 4 championship courses.The area south of 44 will have about the same number of homes.I hope they are planning more golf courses.

Bonny 04-25-2017 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1390860)
You have piqued my interest. What agreement are you referencing?

There was a mutual agreement a few years back between the Villages & Sumter County that the Villages wouldn't build anymore in Sumter.
Most knew that wouldn't last long.

thelegges 04-25-2017 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JMEZARIC3 (Post 1390956)
The area between 466 and 466A has 16 executive and 4 championship courses.The area south of 44 will have about the same number of homes.I hope they are planning more golf courses.

Lots on a golf course command upwards of $100,000. Of course there will be more courses.

RickeyD 04-25-2017 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1391088)
Lots on a golf course command upwards of $100,000. Of course there will be more cpurses.



Good point !

pauld315 04-25-2017 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1391006)
There was a mutual agreement a few years back between the Villages & Sumter County that the Villages wouldn't build anymore in Sumter.
Most knew that wouldn't last long.

Right, it is my understanding that when the Morse's wanted permission to build south of 466 they had to sign an agreement with Sumter County that they would never build south of 44. That was torn up a few years ago, probably because of the economic impact. Sumter County was, at one time, one of the poorest counties in all of Florida.

Marie1 04-25-2017 07:36 PM

Tunnels
 
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Originally Posted by zonerboy (Post 1390091)
So you can drive your golf cart down to Highway 44 from Fenney or from the existing Villages north of 44. But how do you get across??? Since the development of areas adjacent to Highway 44 on the north side, there have been multiple serious traffic accidents at all Village streets intersecting 44 (Morse Blvd, Buena Vista, and Powell Rd). These have all involved vehicles attempting either to cross or turn onto this Highway which has a speed limit of 55 mph. And this is despite the fact that there are traffic lights at all 3 intersections. Add golf carts to the mix and who knows what the carnage will be.
I seriously doubt that the developers will be able to acquire permits to tunnel under this Highway or to build a bridge over it.
Greed at work!!!

A while back it was in the Daily Sun that Morse already had acquired Four permits for Four Tunnels to go under 44. Stating that it took too much time and was very costly when he crossed over 441 years ago, so this time quick and under without disrupting traffic in the process.

justjim 04-25-2017 07:56 PM

Preownec sells in 5 days
 
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Originally Posted by Fred R (Post 1390103)
Excellent point. Village sales agents are concentrating on new homes. Preowned is secondary. Those of us who own preowned homes and hoped to be able to realize a deceit profit will be lucky to make back what we paid for it if we owned less than 5 yrs, especially when you deduct all those sale fees. Great for the developer. Not so great for the home owner IMHO

Our friends just sold their home (whispering Pine) in just five days. They made a profit after just six years. Isn't this a great place to live or what?

hulahips 04-25-2017 08:19 PM

Are they going to build more hospitals?

twoplanekid 04-25-2017 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 1391254)
Right, it is my understanding that when the Morse's wanted permission to build south of 466 they had to sign an agreement with Sumter County that they would never build south of 44. That was torn up a few years ago, probably because of the economic impact. Sumter County was, at one time, one of the poorest counties in all of Florida.

Interesting article from 2004 about politics and power changes to affect Villages building plans. -> ONE SUMTER ONE HOT ISSUE - News - Ocala.com - Ocala, FL

ColdNoMore 04-25-2017 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1391273)
Interesting article from 2004 about politics and power changes to affect Villages building plans. -> ONE SUMTER ONE HOT ISSUE - News - Ocala.com - Ocala, FL

Good article on the history here.

Thanks. :thumbup:

NJblue 04-25-2017 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1390267)
I was curious, so I went to look how may open tee times were available for tomorrow (this is Sunday) at all Championship courses.
There were 92 foursome tee times before noon and I quit counting............
Looks like it will be awhile before a lottery system is needed.

What about executive courses from January through March? On the morning after the requests turn to reservations there may be a handful of times for a foursome as the sun comes up (better wear your long johns and parka) and a few at the very end of the day (better bring a flashlight). Within a day, even these least desirable slots are taken. There is no way that the executive courses are keeping up with the population growth.

JoMar 04-25-2017 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hulahips (Post 1391270)
Are they going to build more hospitals?

Not a question for the The Villages....building Hospitals would be the responsibility of the current owners of Lessburg and The Villages Hospital (Central Florida Health) or any other Health Care System that would choose to build here. As I understand it no hospital can be built or expanded without State Approval and that approval takes a lot of time and is restrictive since public money may be involved.

Two Bills 04-26-2017 05:22 AM

About time we had our own Airport! :plane: :plane:

rustyp 04-26-2017 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1391267)
Our friends just sold their home (whispering Pine) in just five days. They made a profit after just six years. Isn't this a great place to live or what?

Was it a profit after the 6% reality fees + closing costs + upgrades (like landscaping) ?

twoplanekid 04-26-2017 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1391323)
About time we had our own Airport! :plane: :plane:

YES! :MOJE_whot:

JoMar 04-26-2017 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1391329)
YES! :MOJE_whot:

But would hanger space be affordable?

twoplanekid 04-26-2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1391447)
But would hanger space be affordable?

Hangers have been built and are being built in Urbana, Ohio that are affordable. If we can do it in a community of 11,000 then the Villages should be able to make it happen!

Lblueocala 04-26-2017 10:47 AM

All new hospitals have to be approved by the state, based on long study, population, and needs in the area. They also look at current hospitals in the area, what class the ER is how many beds are available, how many of the beds are filled, and do patients have to be transferred because of lack of service not available.

justjim 04-26-2017 11:02 AM

Resales
 
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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1391324)
Was it a profit after the 6% reality fees + closing costs + upgrades (like landscaping) ?

Yes, they made a few dollars after all expenses. They didn't get rich but they didn't get hit with a loss either. The house was in excellent condition, showed well and nicely landscaped. Sold through The Villages sales office.

justjim 04-26-2017 11:07 AM

Airport
 
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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1391323)
About time we had our own Airport! :plane: :plane:

What about Leesburg Airport? It's pretty close.

Challenger 04-26-2017 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1391323)
About time we had our own Airport! :plane: :plane:

Extremely expensive, depending on the level of service wanted. Some interesting stories about airports that were built at the costs of $millions that have completely flopped with enormous losses.

Careful what we wish for, we may get it.

Maddie2009 04-26-2017 11:43 AM

Anyone knows when they expect the road construction for the carts to be done and opened?

thelegges 04-26-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hulahips (Post 1391270)
Are they going to build more hospitals?

A CON ( certificate of need ) needs to be applied. State can send a denial at any time. Due to the influx of winter months than decrease for rest of year it could be difficult. More urgent cares would lighten the load on ED. It's the same rules for every state.

dbussone 04-26-2017 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1391603)
A CON ( certificate of need ) needs to be applied. State can send a denial at any time. Due to the influx of winter months than decrease for rest of year it could be difficult. More urgent cares would lighten the load on ED. It's the same rules for every state.



Nope. There are states that do not require CoNs to build a hospital at all. You can build a hospital but it requires rigorous approval of plans. So you build your hospital and let the market decide if it will do well.

In NV, though, you can build your hospital, but must get approval for certain high level services like an NICU. There are lots of states like NV.

CoNs are found mainly in the North East. The South and Southwest are generally pretty open as far as allowing hospitals to be built. Even CA is fairly loose on building new hospitals, but relatively involved in high end services.


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pauld315 04-28-2017 08:33 AM

FYI...The Villages have added the sites of several new planned villages to their official map. Go to this website and you can zoom in on the land south of 44 and see the locations of each village.

The Villages - Map

batman911 04-28-2017 10:41 AM

Does this now make Brownwood the center of TV? Maybe why the new hospital planned for the Brownwood area was cancelled to move it further south.

Duppa 04-29-2017 09:33 AM

:pepper2:
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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1390029)
The Villages has purchased 652 acres of land south of County Road 44 that will guarantee golf cart access down to the Village of Fenney and the Village of Southern Oaks.

The announcement of the purchase was made Saturday night at a meeting for Villages sales associates.

The land is located near the Rohan Recreation Center south of County Road 44 and along County Road 468.

Well, BOOM! There it is! Many of us called this long ago... and here it is! I say a GIANT WONDERFUL! The Villages, Florida, the BEST PLACE for RETIREMENT on EARTH! Bring it on, bring it all on! :pepper2:

Bonny 04-29-2017 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Duppa (Post 1392660)
:pepper2:

Well, BOOM! There it is! Many of us called this long ago... and here it is! I say a GIANT WONDERFUL! The Villages, Florida, the BEST PLACE for RETIREMENT on EARTH! Bring it on, bring it all on! :pepper2:

Whoop, Whoop !!! I love it ! :pepper2:

Packer Fan 04-29-2017 12:27 PM

Now my house in Hillsborough is no longer on the southern end - it is in the Middle!

Allegiance 04-29-2017 10:26 PM

It's great the developer will have a stake in the villages for the rest of our lives. Amen

Juliezappa 04-29-2017 10:46 PM

I was looking at homes in Fenny about a month ago. 3 separate salespeople told me it wasn't possible to answer yes OR no regarding future access to other Villages by golf cart. All 3 seemed very ethical to me by saying that.

golfing eagles 04-30-2017 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Juliezappa (Post 1392895)
I was looking at homes in Fenny about a month ago. 3 separate salespeople told me it wasn't possible to answer yes OR no regarding future access to other Villages by golf cart. All 3 seemed very ethical to me by saying that.

Just like the movie "Independence Day", it's called plausible deniability. They simply are not privy to the developers future plans.

Barefoot 04-30-2017 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Duppa (Post 1392660)
Well, BOOM! There it is! Many of us called this long ago... and here it is! I say a GIANT WONDERFUL! The Villages, Florida, the BEST PLACE for RETIREMENT on EARTH! Bring it on, bring it all on! :pepper2:

:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Juliezappa (Post 1392895)
I was looking at homes in Fenny about a month ago. 3 separate salespeople told me it wasn't possible to answer yes OR no regarding future access to other Villages by golf cart. All 3 seemed very ethical to me by saying that.

One reason, among many, that the Villages Developers are successful ....
They don't jeopardize their negotiation process by talking about their business plans ahead of the announcement dates. :ho:

golfing eagles 04-30-2017 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1393072)
:thumbup:

One reason, among many, that the Villages Developers are successful ....
They don't jeopardize their negotiation process by talking about their business plans ahead of the announcement dates. :ho:

Maybe one of the seven new villages could be annexed by Canada and you could live here year round. (And deliver lobster):1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

dbussone 04-30-2017 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1393074)
Maybe one of the seven new villages could be annexed by Canada and you could live here year round. (And deliver lobster):1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:



Or at least have a lobster pond which could be stocked by Canadian drones.


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