The Spanish Springs Sales Office is at 1120 Main St, corner of Main and Paige Pl.

ENVY yah right. "Doesn't mean you have any claim to it." NEVER said I did. "There are people living in cardboard boxes under bridges." Plenty of jobs available. Why don't they get a job, save some money, retire, so they can live in the Villages like most of us here have done! " Why don't you share it with them?" You have absolutely no clue what I do with the money I have earned and I do not need to justify it to YOU!

The developer bullied Lady Lake by warning of extended litigation if they did not consent to this trafistary action. The developer would spend Lady Lake to insolvency by continued litigation if they did not comply. So what’s next another situation like La Hacienda county club , screw the residents let’s make money.

Slightly off subject but I'm appalled at HOW LONG it has been for the freakin construction zone they've set up around the movie theater at SS to be dealt with. Why are they allowed to have an eyesore for YEARS, yet no home property can have a lawn ornament that may be offensive looking?!!

Clueless

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A vocal few can't understand, or don't want to understand.

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The newspaper says it’s definitely not!

When they can build a home in 90 days, you know it doesn’t take two years to update The Rialto.
Downtown workers says it’s being repurposed into a new use. With so many people staying home and watching movies, no need for three theaters in the area.
Hope the Morse Family addresses that at the Town Hall
Meeting.
No guarantee that they will always have craft fairs and car shows in SS.
That would be the other way to solve their problem.
Remember the parades we had….and were suddenly gone?

Do not see the Rialto showing movies again thinking they kind of know what they want to do with the property but waiting for the right moment but would not be surprised more apartments if they find they can get it zoned and sold.

The idea of apartments does not bother me but the loss of quite a few parking spots does. As we get older will get harder and harder to go to SS and walk some distance for dinner or music.

"trafistary"??? :confused::confused::confused:

Well at least there’s a different story/perspective in today’s newspaper. We will see…😎

You make a good point. Over where I live they have been going after a guy and fining him because he has a little white cross in his yard. It’s the old saying, do as I say not as I do.
Bob

Well you know what happens if they go all "Trafistary" on this. All I can say now is the results will not be pretty.

Personally I don’t think you have any control what goes on in TV unless you’re on the board of directors. Sounds like you’re you’re just a resident that just owns a home there. When we lived there 3 yrs. ago I never heard any complaining about anything like this. Now it seems like everyday someone is complaining about a neighbor, noise’s, golf coarse complains, or someone wanting something changed to satisfy them. All I can tell you, just park somewhere else. Sorry!

Facts?
 

Who owns Spanish Springs square?
Buildings (developer?)
Steeets (Lady Lake?)
Center square area (developer?)

Residents are stakeholders in the square as it affects property values. The cost of a house in the villages is more expensive because of amenities like the square (even though it is open tonthe public).

Everything in live is temporary.

It does seem that no one is talking about if property owned by the developers (I assume this is, if not, the entire conversation makes no sense) should not be allowed to be repurposed if the developers are not making as much money as they would like to from that property.

For people that seem to enjoy capitalism, that enjoyment only extends to what they think a company should do?

With respect, I think Spanish Springs is beautifully maintained, and the theme is not “due for an upgrade.” I’m at the various town squares quite frequently, and I think they are all kept up the same, and that is at a high level. I assume you are joking about “a San Francisco theme” in Florida. Would that mean, say, bringing in a thousand homeless junkies to keep the benches warm? Spanish-style architecture does at least point to a very distant Spanish colonial past in Florida, and it fits in well with our natural greenery. I applaud the Morse family for developing The Villages in a consistent and beautiful way. I do wish they’d be more forthcoming about some of their plans and perhaps respond to questions in Talk of the Villages.

There was a development agreement between the developer and Lady Lake that suited the developer well when Lady Lake rubber stamped everything. When Lady Lake voted against the apartments the developer conveniently started pulling out of agreements and contracts with Lady Lake. If the streets are public the developer knows there is no way Lady Lake is approving assigned spots for apartment renters on public streets. The developer is working on an angle with this move.

The people talking about the slow death of Spanish Springs and how the family is killing it are probably the same ones going to the target or Walmart or the 50 or so restaurants that are close by . The developer is at least trying to shake up the square , what are the big ideas from people posting ? I know, bring back Katie Bells , the place was an advertisement for the developer, which I suspect never made much money except for a time when non residents were allowed in . I remember even in its golden years seeing little nips of alcohol in the trash in bathroom

You have to be a member of the VHA to get a ticket; why can’t anyone who lives in the Villages get a ticket? VHA promotes the developer.

Check the Daily Sun today. Spanish Springs is "vibrant". The Sharon, Cruise-ins, and apartments are the reason why. Who could ask for more?

The truth might be more than anyone could ask for?

There are no apartments in Spanish Springs Town Square right now. So - apartments can't possibly be the cause of the vibrancy of Spanish Springs.

The horse is out of the stall...
the developer will not stop!!
It is such a very sad, sad thing!!!

If only any of us knew the developers plans for that area. But we don't, it's all conjecture and speculation.

Where's Graciegirl when we need her?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

But when it affects the people who live here are we not entitled to voice our opinion?

We can all ask for more but the developer will do what he wants to do.

We are children of the 60's. If you feel strongly, protest! Get a placard and stand in front of the developers presentation.

When they tried to put a wall to keep carts in the historic section, I went to the developers bank and told them I was taking my money out. The wall became a gate.

When you bought your place, it came with certain expectations, including parking spaces near the square. In putting apartments above the square, the developer is selling the new residents your parking spaces. If he wants the apartments to have reserved parking, he should be required to build a parking garage for them. Simple enough!

But remember, the developer don't play. Some folks who protested are headed for the pokey.

If I was one of the retail tenants who rely on that parking, I’d be really unhappy. In this case it appears that the Developer intends to “re-purpose” Spanish Springs into something else. Less retail, no entertainment, even more apartments?

Good to point that out. But, what was expected? We live in a bubble of maximum legitimized greed and avarice. Private citizens here have no control over their environment. We exist here on a "take it or leave it basis" - "the good with the bad". We are one or 2 steps above Russian and Chinese citizens, that's all.
.......The HOUSE makes the rules and if you don't like it. you can fold your cards and walk.
........The "quality of life" in Spanish Springs, TV Land, and throughout America has decreased since about the 1950s.
.........A person could call their Congress Man and say, "Please give us a break on a few parking spaces" because that will start to turn America around for the better!

Maybe they should move the apartments onto the closest golf course. That is available little-used space.

Have you ever thought that maybe in the future they are not planning anymore fairs, craft shows, or other events up in Spanish Springs? :shocked:

If I was one of the retail tenants who rely on that parking, I’d be really unhappy. In this case it appears that the Developer intends to “re-purpose” Spanish Springs into something else. Less retail, no entertainment, even more apartments?

Parking was explained in today’s Daily Sun.

The sky is not really falling…………..

Just dumb
 

To take needed parking for the Sharon and other events and shows seems a problem. Developers too often rape the land and leave their droppings behind.

Right, and it won't fall. The square will be as good as, if not better than it is right now for years to come, they are not going to give up all those tenants around the square, they quoted that some of the events held there bring in 10,000 heads and the cruise-in's 2,000 heads, that's a lot. I feel that they realize times are changing and want to keep up with it. They did note that 80% of the Loft residents moved there from homes within TV so there is a demand for them and they will probably build them slowly to see how they go. I wouldn't doubt that the first 7 are already spoken for.

According to the Daily Sun article:
That sounds like spin, not fact. If it was fact, they would've either completed the renovations of the Rialto and it'd be open for business by now, or they'd be proudly announcing the plans for its future by now. Instead, we get radio silence and vague meaningless statements like in the above.

Then, there's the paragraph where they compare the 7 apartment units to the Lofts of Brownwood. The Lofts are a few dozen apartments in a single building, with its own dedicated, gated parking lot and its own dedicated swimming pool and lobby. It also has garage space available exclusively for their use, their own pet lawn, a dedicated spot for barbequing outside. Compare with 7 units over a storefront with no pool, no gated entry to the property, no garages, no pet lawn, no outdoor cooking area, no lobby or dedicated recreational area, but those 7 units will be mostly isolated away from the entire rest of the Villages at 11PM until 9 the next morning.

What WOULD enhance the Square area - is if they took the MVP gym and moved it to the Rialto property, and added maybe a juice bar and other "healthy options" small eatery (since it's a gym, that'd fit) and maybe even a nook with health-related products and services, like vitamins/supplements, kenisiology tape, massage therapy, acupressure and similar services.

And then take that MVP building that was -originally- supposed to be a hotel, and turn THAT into an apartment building. With a couple of rec center amenities (a billiards room, a meeting room with kitchen, a card room) on the second floor over an indoor pool, a concierge, and an elevator. Parking can be in the back, which has its own circular driveway and entrance to the building already.

Spanish Springs is obsolete. Everything you need is on 27. Not a big deal

Apartments very well might not be trying to kill Spanish Springs, but they will certainly not make it any easier to get one of the three lanes, which are already usually full, for amenity fee paying residents to use to swim laps at the La Hacienda sports pool.