TOO QUICK TO JUDGE--: Thank goodness you kept this to yourself.
 

My husband has dementia and Parkinson's. I leave him in the car while I do the shopping because I need to be quick to get back to him, and I have him close enough I can keep an eye on him. I went thru this with my mother years ago--she would either get out and walk away or bang on the window for passerbys to let her out if the door was locked, the would think she was in distress and try to jimmy the door.
It sucks being sick, it sucks having to watch out for dangers to one we love who isn't in their right mind anymore.

If a person has a disabled parking placard it can be used on any car that they are traveling in, whether it is their own car or somebody else's. In this sense, a placard is registered to a person and not to a vehicle. License plates are different because they cannot be removed.

So the way I read this article, it does not say if the person parking in The spot has a handicap sticker or not if they do, he has every right to be there. There is no law that you have to park there an exit your vehicle in a certain amount of time. However, It might be rude to park there and not leave it open for somebody else to go to the store.
I also learned something a while back ago just got somebody hops out of a vehicle and doesn’t appear to have a physical injury. Does not mean they do not have a medical condition.
On another note, how about the people who just park in the middle of the road with their flashers on.
Expecting people to drive around them

There has to be a record of a diagnosis by the doctor to receive a disabled placard. Why would a doctor risk their license to practice by signing a form that is a lie ?

90% Of the people here should not have a permit. I could have gotten a permit, and have a brother in a Wheelchair he is truly disabled. And when he comes here to visit and we go out, We can’t get a spot to park, Because the “OTHER DISABLED PERSON HAD TO “RUN” INTO THE STORE. And you all have seen them.. PLUS. The holder of the permit is NOT in the car, someone else is using it!!
It’s all Bull $hit.

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DITTOS~! Thank You. 1 lady actually approached me, saying i was 'too young' to be disabled. i politely turned around, lifted my shirt, & showed her the very long scar going down my spine, then showed her the scars on the back of my legs (both). if i had my fone, i'd have taken a pic of her face as she slithered away. just because the person doesn't appear to be disabled, doesn't mean they are not. is really no one elses' business, imo. thanks for the rant :posting:

Terrific response! But some problems are not visible. A friend who snowboards, and rides competitively suddenly developed heart problems. He looks physically very healthy no one would think he could be handicapped, but develops dizziness even on short walks, I mean fall to the ground degree dizziness.

People always rant about this, yet they have no problem walking around the store for 30-60 minutes grocery shopping.

that's why this is an awful thread. peeps need to myob & deal with it. yes, i've been to stores & unable to find a spot, but i don't sit around judging who needs that spot the most. what i do is drive around multiple times until i see 1 open up. so i'm a few minutes behind, no big deal.

when i'm in too much pain to handle walking the aisles of Publix, i'm grateful for instacart. that handicap spot remains open

I totally agree that it is not appropriate to confront people on the street. But, it is appropriate to question the legal process that allows almost anyone to get a handicap permit by just asking a medical doctor to sign a form. There should be an enforcement process to ensure that the permits are only issued to people who have a valid need for the permit. Medical doctors are not law enforcers, and they should not have the exclusive right or responsibility to issue permits. In my opinion, the current process is flawed.

Handicap parking
 

What everyone seems to be missing is that the reason for handicap parking is so they have room to put out the ramp for the wheelchair person. Now if the person driving the car is handicapped and the passenger in the store is not(get the hell out of that spot!) pick that person up in front of the store. But if the person in the store is in a wheelchair then stay in that spot so you have the room for your ramp(very difficult to load with a ramp in front of a store with all the traffic and pedestrian shoppers) i feel very fortunate to not have to use handicap parking and feel bad about the people that do, and I respect those few spots that are available to those people at stores. Here is a scenario for you: lets say you are sitting in the handicapped spot and someone needs wheelchair access(all the other spots are filled) that person has been denied!)

I don’t think people question the legitimacy or are without empathy for those with handicaps, visible or otherwise. The whole issue centers around the person who knows what morally and ethically is right but chooses to ignore. Whether it’s at Publix, at a restaurant, boarding an airplane or anywhere else that “privilege” gets you to the head of the line, a small but arrogant few will find ways to circumvent the law, common courtesy and respect for others and make themselves the most important person in the room. They want the edge over others. The only solution is in one’s conscious.

Where? Where?

Those are for other threads.

There should be a special ticket for them. "I'm turning my flashers on to let you know that I am aware I am doing something I shouldn't....but I'm gonna do it anyway"

I play golf, 9 holes when I’m able. So should I not golf what I can because I’m handicapped? People are mad because they can’t park close. Some get cards so they don’t get car dings.

My response that you quoted was to the post of nonhandycapped driver unnecessisarily waiting in a handicapped spot (that may have been needed by you and your child) while the actual handicapped person is shopping. Your situation is one where the handicapped individual needs an assistant, and that is you. Unlikely that an able-bodied driver will be "chillin'" in your vehicle.
Caring and concerned individuals here are looking out for your interest by calling out the apparent abusers. Those who may be the abusers are the ones that use the bullies response of "mind your own business".

What is worse is when they park in the crosswalk and wait, or in front of the store

Because my wife wants to walk as much as possible, she doesn't want to be dropped off at the door and picked up there. It makes her feel like an invalid. She can walk limited distances such as from a handicapped space but not farther down in the parking lot.

What AUTHORITY do you have to speak with me about anything to do with where my car is positioned on private property?

I would never threaten anyone, ever. I wonder why you took it that way?

Oh, my! She wants to walk as much as possible, so you choose possibly the closest place to park rather than allow her to get in another 50 to 100 steps. Do you have any idea how far she travels while shopping? She, apparently, does not require your help or assistance.
And being dropped off and picked up make her "feel like an invalid"? Funny that walking to and from the car in "handicapped parkin only" doesn't make her feel the same.
Well, it really isn't any of my business whether you really need to use the handicapped spaces, or just use it for convenience.

Did you not read where I stated my wife wants to do as much for herself as possible, she wants to walk from the car to the store and back if she can. She doesn't want to be dropped off and picked up. That is what she wants and I will park my car in a disabled spot to accommodate her regardless of what anyone else thinks we should do. When the wife can't walk from the handicapped space, I will drive her to the door and pick her up and not use a handicapped space to park when waiting for her.
I have no tolerance for busy bodies sticking their nose where it doesn't belong. My business is mine, not someone else's. Over the years I have learned that most people who have the need to mind other people's business need to clean their house first as it usually needs it far more than the person that they are criticizing. It is the epitome of disrespect and entitlement when you feel the need to tell everyone else how to live.
I have also learned that when I concern myself with my own life and ignore everyone else's, I have a much happier life.

I have found that you will never find a nosier population than in TV.
My daddy used to say "if you just worry about yourself, you'll have your hands full".
Just look at the hundreds of threads on this board in which people speculate about other's lives when it has zero impact on their own. Don't let the busybodies get to you. They have nothing more to do in their golden years than
sit on a message board and post 7.2 times a day.

My issue is that if you can play golf you can walk, my wife cannot walk. Handicap spots have extra room to get the person in and out of a wheelchair and do not have curbs. If my wife could walk, she would, but she can't.

And where are these “loading zones”. You must be thinking fire lane. Dumb idea.

Many of them are mentally handicapped 😂😂.

Look around every one is old, what do you expect

Boo hoo, why don’t your brother get one for travelling?

No worse then some morons bringing a dog into a grocery store, disgusting

And sticking their noses (previously in some other dogs butt) in the fresh vegetable bins near the floor,sniffing and snorting the items on lower shelves or displays while owner is checking out other products and is blissfully unaware of their fake service dogs lack of service dog training and discipline.
But all that is for another great thread.

That seems logical ! What does not seem to make sense, is when a driver lets off a person with mobility difficulties, then parks just yards away in the closest parking spaces for the disabled, and THEN when the person comes out of the store, restaurant, etc., starts the car, backs out, and proceeds to the curb to pick up the person.

You are unaware of the WHY they may be there. I sometimes need to wait for my disabled husband, something he needs to do without me. But, I watch to see if someone needs the spot - if so I will vacate and circle the lot. The issue is that there are no designated pick-up / drop-off zones. When someone disabled comes out they may need immediate assistance to cross the lot. They may get disoriented if they don't see their car. When having a good day and there is a nearby spot we will park there. You do not know what their issue is, all disabilities are not visible. Everyone is NOT trying to game the system. Get out of the car and have what looks like a healthy individual collapse. You are not a mind reader.

So well stated, but have you noticed few of us on here ever get to the ROOT of the problem, I include myself. We often speak from what we have experienced and observed, that's what humans depend on to form ideas, opinions, philosophies. In some related ways, this is much like the abuse of "service dog" designations to "emotional support" pets of every kind description. It all went "viral" as the kids say, and is now possible to order, online, anything from a handicapped mirror tag (and you can even specify color if you are in a state or country not using the standard blue), to "vests" for the pet of those in such a fragile emotional state that they are not able to be in a restaurant or a store without the support of their animal. And yes, I agree that is a very tragic state of mind for anyone to have to bare, and only each of us can make the choice to judge or not judge. When I see a person in the hardware store, or grocery, or fast food location, cuddling their emotional support pet, I realized how judgmental my thoughts turned. Now I make a concerted effort to think "there but for the grace of God... and try to imagine what it would be like to not be able to go into a store to buy a light bulb without having an animal with you... thinking this way, I hope, keeps me a better person. If, LOL, I 'd been the person in the seat next to the peacock on that well publicized flight, I might have really had to fight my judgmental thoughts with all my might... LOL !

Humm, this sure took a sudden turn ! So much had to do with public parking at various retails locations, and now it turns to disagreement concerning private property. Can't see this ever being settled if it switches to people's and businesses private parking and drives ! Maybe just use what gram-ma referred to as "COMMON sense" and "decency" !

Having a handicapped sticker here in TV just means u have moved up on the Entitlement scale.

Personally, i park in the closest handicap spot and i dont have a placard. There arent enough police to enforce the rule.

If you are truly handicapped…just order stuff online.

Worse yet in a restaurant. :22yikes:

I'm thinking there isn't enough police here in Florida to enforce anything.
Speeding, noisy exhaust, running stop lights, illegal turns etc. etc.

Have you considered the average age of our residents? That may account the large number of plates.
Not rocket science.