Start your dog-free community..You could control every regulation. And change them whenever you get angry.

The Real Solution
 

Finally, a way to get rid of our biggest problem in TV

A Lament from a Large Dog
 

I am a big black dog. Born this way, without any control of my most unfortunate circumstance. Discarded at a tender age, barely off my mother’s teat, along with my litter mates. Thought of as no more than garbage. Were it not for the sympathy and kindness of a stranger, I most certainly would not be here today.

I have endeavored since that fateful day of my rescue to live the most righteous life a dog can live. Seeking not to disturb and to obey without question the commands of my humans.

To that end, I most carefully place my pile as my humans say, on a common area swath of grass. And they, in return, most courteously remove my pile. I must then traverse through the numerous remanence of tiny poops left by the privileged, purebred dogs that have never know a day of cold, hunger and fear.

That I must say Hath
not a large dog eyes? hath not a large dog paw, organs,
dimensions, senses, affections, passions? fed with
the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject
to the same diseases, healed by the same means,
warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer, as
a small dog is? If you prick us, do we not bleed?
if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison
us, do we not die? and if a little dog poops does it not still stink, polite and breed flies as mine does?

Therefore I say, do not condemn me with your prejudices. Rather open your eyes to the beauty of my character. After all, All Creatures Great and Small. God Loves them, One and All.

Biggest issue? :oops:I think not.

"One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. " LOL. No, it's coming to anyone of the many Villages social media sites and being subjected to yet another dog poop thread.

My first response to this post is to refute the first sentence. I don’t believe this is “one of the biggest issues Villagers face.” I admit it is an unpleasant situation, but, seriously, there are bigger problems in the world. I try very hard to control where my dog goes, but occasionally she does go somewhere she shouldn’t. I hope my neighbors do not see this as a sign of aggression on my part. It is just an accident. And I will always pick up after her. Also, this not a situation limited to The Villages. It is an issue anywhere dogs live. At our home in Michigan, I have to clean up a lot of rabbit poop in my fenced back yard so my dog doesn’t eat it. And birds make a pretty big mess on our cars, we don’t go trying to get dna samples from them. Animals don’t really understand how their elimination habits offend us humans so much.yes, dog owners should be responsible for cleaning up after their pets, but I think this issue is a little over blown. Bigger problems do exist in the world.

That Many?

He who poops last...

...has a lot to clean up.

TV can enact such a system. I handle several Associations and several have hired the DNA service. Like you, I thought it had to be fake, but alas. Another winner would be ESA. There will be no such thing as a pet free Association soon. My attorney advises I look at the animals as wheelchairs and not pets.We even have multiple esa's for one person. If they can get a letter from a medical professional (massage therapist?) stating each animal provides specific needs, they are allowed under law.Had one lady fill out all [paperwork, go through the interview stating that she has no pets. The day she moves in she has two dogs, one cat, one rabbit and a letter from a doctors stating each is an esa.

It may be easier to move.

That is a funny response.

Unless you live by someone with a Mastiff, Great Dane, etc. why get so worked up? There are all kinds of animals pooping on your yards. Some of those squirrels probably pack a heavy load. What Does Squirrel Poop Look Like? Squirrel Droppings Identification - Animal Hype

And then there is all that birdlife which almost always gets my car if it is outside.

And the love bugs are the worst....

Start fining the owners, beginning with $50.00 fines and increasing with each occasion. People can take videos of the owners and turn them in.

Dog poop
 

A: Always have poop bag, with you, in your car, in your golf cart.
B: Possibly Villages could install poop bag posts at mail box areas, one or two at the squares.

Instead of DNA testing…
 

Instead of DNA testing, why doesn’t TV install dog poop station’s throughout the villages that has bags and receptacles, so if someone doesn’t have a bag on them for whatever reason they can get a bag and dispose of it easily. The receptacles can be emptied by maintenance when they are mowing. I’ve lived in apartment complexes that offered that, and it was quite nice, and there were less “issues.”

There are places that the DNA solution becomes the only solution when pet owners refuse to acknowledge their responsibility.
But, for now, we can avoid this, IF pet owners realize they (not all, but many) are the problem, and the home owners who resent being abused and complain are not.
So, if it isn't your yard, keep out!

Adorable! But, certainly you are aware that dogs are not the problem. Never have been. It's the dog owners! Humans that take their dogs, not for exercise, but to use the neighbors yard for their toilet. That is where the problem is. Trespassing and dumping of raw sewage and only partially removed to hide the evidence.

By the time we pay to provide bags, bins, and extra maintenence workers and administrators, well, DNA info on a laptop would be way cheaper.

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Dog Poop issues
 

I think it would be helpful if The Villages put "doggie stations" along the main roads. People who walk their dogs have nowhere to dispose of the bags and have to carry them all the way home. I walk a 3 mile loop most mornings, and if the dogs poops early in the walk, I have to carry it the rest of the way. That is one reason, I'm sure, why some people don't pick up after their dog. I saw someone a few months ago who picked up, and then threw it down the sewer drain - another no no!!!!! (I scolded him.) If The Villages provided waste cans along many of the roads, I think more people would pick up, and dispose of the bags properly.

Please name the associations that have hired pet DNA services. Phone numbers would be helpful, too.

Wouldn’t work. Too expensive and complicated. Better idea? Poop bag dispensers at places where many people take their dogs to walk. Maybe encourage sales of poop bags at the rec centers as a revenue source. (Believe it or not the very few places that carry these bags often run out). Mayors of villa communities could buy a case and sell to their dog owners at a profit. Just a blue sky idea

They do have these at Lake Miona Park off CR472. With a camera getting all the action in the park. Lake Miona Park | Sumter County, FL - Official Website Lake Miona also has a trash place for just dog poop. Not sure why else you would open it up.

And outside various pet stores here in the Villages offer bags outside off of a toilet paper dispenser like thing.

So, you are saying that all poop isn't offensive poop? Only dog poop is a problem?
You know a domesticated dog with no human and no training is a feral, wild animal instinctually?

Agree overall. Additionally why is it off limits to put properly bagged dog excrement (tied bag) into the receptacles located at the pool/postal stations? Assuming that these receptacles are emptied with regularity and bags are sealed what’s the harm??

All good points but most owners take daily walks in the neighborhood not just at dog parks. And there are not all that many pet shops here. The issue is more involving neighborhoods.

You know I’m surprised no one has simply asked how some of our cities are handling the excrement issues that they have been having recently. Maybe we could learn something from them or vice-versa. At least our problem for the present is confined to four legged domesticated creatures. Think poop bag stations on Madison Avenue would work??

Let’s see, put a little boutique in the rec centers to sell poop bags, villa neighborhoods ( who are these villa mayors?), get a volunteer to sell bags (also in each village), now empty trash cans at mail stations twice a week, put poop bag collection stations around The Villages, station someone to collect bags at town squares and on and on…….sound silly yet?
:rolleyes::22yikes::laugh:

This is a joke, right? Extracting DNA from fecal material requires a specialized type of testing, and it certainly ain't cheap. Probably somewhere in the $500 neighborhood.

Then...say you take a sample and get it tested. Who pays for that? Once you get results (maybe, maybe not), what do you compare it to? Submitting your dog's DNA would be on a voluntary basis, and if a dog/owner were "serial poopers," I doubt they would ever submit a sample for the database. And who is to enforce this farcical idea? Neither the Developer nor the Districts are going to get involved in this. So where does that leave you?

I have a better idea...take up golf; or pickleball; or water volleyball; or anything. Someone has WAY too much time on their hands to be looking this hard for something to complain about. Bob Marley said it all..."Don't worry, be happy."

I am saying that we can’t control wild animals, but we, owners, are responsible for our pets. Your argument is similar to: if the wind blows trash on the lawns, then it’s okay to throw your trash on the lawns. Isn’t all trash offensive?

(To me it sounds like some are looking for an excuse to allow their pets on other people’s lawns. People spend thousands of dollars annually to keep up their lawn, and they don’t do it so others can use it as their dog’s litter box.)

Dog Poop always picked up
 

In ten years here I’ve never seen anyone walk away from their dogs poop. Maybe it’s Coyotes poop.

=TVTVTV;2296170]One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners[/QUOTE]

What makes you think that the people guilty of not picking up the dog poop will have this test done?

If a dog poops in our yard and the owner picks it up, that's a neighbor I'm glad to have in our neighborhood. Life's too short and there are far too many other reasons for my grass to not grow than any residual dog poop left in my yard.

Cow manure (Black Cow) and Milorganite (microbes that have digested wastewater in Milwaukee) are two of the best fertilizers for many of our lawns...

Heck, that grass with the residual dog poop that the owner left after picking up the mess may be the greenest grass in your lawn ;)

I believe it is the dog urine that can kill grass. Is Dog Pee Killing Grass in Your Yard? Here’s How to Fix It - Bob Vila

My pooch pees a little here, and a little there, and then somewhere else. Usually where other dogs have gone. And sometimes if a dog is nearby they will have a ****ing contest as to which dog is the last to pee in that one spot.

How did you get my picture?

Be that as it may. (it is some of the worst in my yard do inpart to the extreme frequency of visitations, often ending with dog tearing the grass) To me it is less about the dogs poop than about the arrogant attitude of owner's that feel entitled to use a neighbors property for their own expediency without expressed permission. There is no justification for trespassing for the express purpose of depositing raw sewage in a neighbors yard.

Scent marking.

Might want to review your deed restrictions. District 14 has the following (look for the dog poop clause.....excrement.....):
2.23 Domestic pets shall be permitted, provided they do not create a nuisance to others. Each Owner shall be personally responsible for any damage caused to dedicated or reserved areas by any such pet and shall be responsible to immediately remove and dispose of any excrement of such pet and shall be responsible to keep such pet on a leash. Notwithstanding the foregoing, no other animals, livestock, poultry, or swine of any kind shall be raised, bred, or kept on any Homesite or on dedicated or reserved areas.

100% on the money.

"Don't worry. Be happy" was Bobby McFerrin, not Bob Marley.
The problem is the attitude of one group. Some dog owners, who have the mistaken idea that having a dog allows them to trespass against their neighbors. Rude, crude and arrogant and just plain disrespectful of others property. (How utterly "Karen")

only 10? I thought it dropped everyone at least 50.....