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Sandy and Ed 01-30-2024 11:26 AM

Wouldn’t work. Too expensive and complicated. Better idea? Poop bag dispensers at places where many people take their dogs to walk. Maybe encourage sales of poop bags at the rec centers as a revenue source. (Believe it or not the very few places that carry these bags often run out). Mayors of villa communities could buy a case and sell to their dog owners at a profit. Just a blue sky idea

Taltarzac725 01-30-2024 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2296571)
Wouldn’t work. Too expensive and complicated. Better idea? Poop bag dispensers at places where many people take their dogs to walk. Maybe encourage sales of poop bags at the rec centers as a revenue source. (Believe it or not the very few places that carry these bags often run out). Mayors of villa communities could buy a case and sell to their dog owners at a profit. Just a blue sky idea

They do have these at Lake Miona Park off CR472. With a camera getting all the action in the park. Lake Miona Park | Sumter County, FL - Official Website Lake Miona also has a trash place for just dog poop. Not sure why else you would open it up.

And outside various pet stores here in the Villages offer bags outside off of a toilet paper dispenser like thing.

Johnsocat 01-30-2024 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2296293)
No one is responsible for the behavior of wild animals but dogs are pets. The difference seems obvious.

So, you are saying that all poop isn't offensive poop? Only dog poop is a problem?
You know a domesticated dog with no human and no training is a feral, wild animal instinctually?

Sandy and Ed 01-30-2024 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rochellepfaff (Post 2296562)
I think it would be helpful if The Villages put "doggie stations" along the main roads. People who walk their dogs have nowhere to dispose of the bags and have to carry them all the way home. I walk a 3 mile loop most mornings, and if the dogs poops early in the walk, I have to carry it the rest of the way. That is one reason, I'm sure, why some people don't pick up after their dog. I saw someone a few months ago who picked up, and then threw it down the sewer drain - another no no!!!!! (I scolded him.) If The Villages provided waste cans along many of the roads, I think more people would pick up, and dispose of the bags properly.

Agree overall. Additionally why is it off limits to put properly bagged dog excrement (tied bag) into the receptacles located at the pool/postal stations? Assuming that these receptacles are emptied with regularity and bags are sealed what’s the harm??

Sandy and Ed 01-30-2024 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2296573)
They do have these at Lake Miona Park off CR472. With a camera getting all the action in the park. Lake Miona Park | Sumter County, FL - Official Website Lake Miona also has a trash place for just dog poop. Not sure why else you would open it up.

And outside various pet stores here in the Villages offer bags outside off of a toilet paper dispenser like thing.

All good points but most owners take daily walks in the neighborhood not just at dog parks. And there are not all that many pet shops here. The issue is more involving neighborhoods.

Sandy and Ed 01-30-2024 11:53 AM

You know I’m surprised no one has simply asked how some of our cities are handling the excrement issues that they have been having recently. Maybe we could learn something from them or vice-versa. At least our problem for the present is confined to four legged domesticated creatures. Think poop bag stations on Madison Avenue would work??

Bogie Shooter 01-30-2024 11:55 AM

Let’s see, put a little boutique in the rec centers to sell poop bags, villa neighborhoods ( who are these villa mayors?), get a volunteer to sell bags (also in each village), now empty trash cans at mail stations twice a week, put poop bag collection stations around The Villages, station someone to collect bags at town squares and on and on…….sound silly yet?
:rolleyes::22yikes::laugh:

NoMo50 01-30-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TVTVTV (Post 2296170)
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners

This is a joke, right? Extracting DNA from fecal material requires a specialized type of testing, and it certainly ain't cheap. Probably somewhere in the $500 neighborhood.

Then...say you take a sample and get it tested. Who pays for that? Once you get results (maybe, maybe not), what do you compare it to? Submitting your dog's DNA would be on a voluntary basis, and if a dog/owner were "serial poopers," I doubt they would ever submit a sample for the database. And who is to enforce this farcical idea? Neither the Developer nor the Districts are going to get involved in this. So where does that leave you?

I have a better idea...take up golf; or pickleball; or water volleyball; or anything. Someone has WAY too much time on their hands to be looking this hard for something to complain about. Bob Marley said it all..."Don't worry, be happy."

Velvet 01-30-2024 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnsocat (Post 2296575)
So, you are saying that all poop isn't offensive poop? Only dog poop is a problem?
You know a domesticated dog with no human and no training is a feral, wild animal instinctually?

I am saying that we can’t control wild animals, but we, owners, are responsible for our pets. Your argument is similar to: if the wind blows trash on the lawns, then it’s okay to throw your trash on the lawns. Isn’t all trash offensive?

(To me it sounds like some are looking for an excuse to allow their pets on other people’s lawns. People spend thousands of dollars annually to keep up their lawn, and they don’t do it so others can use it as their dog’s litter box.)

Ramone 01-30-2024 04:28 PM

Dog Poop always picked up
 
In ten years here I’ve never seen anyone walk away from their dogs poop. Maybe it’s Coyotes poop.

=TVTVTV;2296170]One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners[/QUOTE]

Ladays1978@gmail.com 01-30-2024 05:13 PM

What makes you think that the people guilty of not picking up the dog poop will have this test done?

GoPacers 01-30-2024 06:51 PM

If a dog poops in our yard and the owner picks it up, that's a neighbor I'm glad to have in our neighborhood. Life's too short and there are far too many other reasons for my grass to not grow than any residual dog poop left in my yard.

Cow manure (Black Cow) and Milorganite (microbes that have digested wastewater in Milwaukee) are two of the best fertilizers for many of our lawns...

Heck, that grass with the residual dog poop that the owner left after picking up the mess may be the greenest grass in your lawn ;)

Taltarzac725 01-30-2024 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GoPacers (Post 2296688)
If a dog poops in our yard and the owner picks it up, that's a neighbor I'm glad to have in our neighborhood. Life's too short and there are far too many other reasons for my grass to not grow than any residual dog poop left in my yard.

Cow manure (Black Cow) and Milorganite (microbes that have digested wastewater in Milwaukee) are two of the best fertilizers for many of our lawns...

Heck, that grass with the residual dog poop that the owner left after picking up the mess may be the greenest grass in your lawn ;)


I believe it is the dog urine that can kill grass. Is Dog Pee Killing Grass in Your Yard? Here’s How to Fix It - Bob Vila

My pooch pees a little here, and a little there, and then somewhere else. Usually where other dogs have gone. And sometimes if a dog is nearby they will have a ****ing contest as to which dog is the last to pee in that one spot.

fdpaq0580 01-30-2024 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2296681)

How did you get my picture?

fdpaq0580 01-30-2024 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GoPacers (Post 2296688)
If a dog poops in our yard and the owner picks it up, that's a neighbor I'm glad to have in our neighborhood. Life's too short and there are far too many other reasons for my grass to not grow than any residual dog poop left in my yard.

Cow manure (Black Cow) and Milorganite (microbes that have digested wastewater in Milwaukee) are two of the best fertilizers for many of our lawns...

Heck, that grass with the residual dog poop that the owner left after picking up the mess may be the greenest grass in your lawn ;)

Be that as it may. (it is some of the worst in my yard do inpart to the extreme frequency of visitations, often ending with dog tearing the grass) To me it is less about the dogs poop than about the arrogant attitude of owner's that feel entitled to use a neighbors property for their own expediency without expressed permission. There is no justification for trespassing for the express purpose of depositing raw sewage in a neighbors yard.


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