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Stormlover 02-11-2019 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 1622711)
Anyone can ask "what service does your dog do?"

And anyone can answer, "None of your business." Because it really IS none of your business unless you're the owner or manager of a business that said dog has been brought in to.

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1622906)
In Connecticut it is illegal to challenge or question the function of a service animal. You can ask if it is, in fact, a service animal. If they say yes, then the conversation is over. If they say no, then you can ask them to take the animal elsewhere. If you ask "what service does your animal provide" they can sue you for violation of the ADA.

Exactly. And be careful because laws vary by state.

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1623001)
Hm - I just checked the CT law and you're half-right. It's not a violation of the ADA to ask someone what service the dog provides the person on the other end of the leash. Rather, the question they are allowed to ask, is what services the dog has been trained to provide (whether it actually provides these services to the person on the other end of the leash or not).

In the state of Connecticut, the person with the dog is NOT required or under any obligation at all, to tell anyone what that dog does for the person. There is also no law regarding untrue claims. So even if I you asked, if I felt like saying "oh he's trained to handle seizures" I can be lying, and there's nothing you can do about it. You aren't allowed to require proof, and I'm not obligated to provide any.

See above.

graciegirl 02-12-2019 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Stormlover (Post 1624251)
And anyone can answer, "None of your business." Because it really IS none of your business unless you're the owner or manager of a business that said dog has been brought in to.

Exactly. And be careful because laws vary by state.



See above.

I think that you might have a dog that you take into stores?

Yesterday I was having my hair cut and someone brought in an adorable little dog in a stroller and he/she sat there like a well trained child.
Some do not fully appreciate ADA rules until you travel abroad where there is no handicap access...…...But I think those rules are sometimes being used against everyone by unscrupulous lawyers looking to make big bucks and sometimes harm and ruin good things like our Lifelong Learning College. Anyone who knows me well knows that disabilities are well understood by me. I just hate to see our laws used against common sense and the greater good.

NotGolfer 02-12-2019 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1624322)
I think that you might have a dog that you take into stores?

Yesterday I was having my hair cut and someone brought in an adorable little dog in a stroller and he/she sat there like a well trained child.
Some do not fully appreciate ADA rules until you travel abroad where there is no handicap access...…...But I think those rules are sometimes being used against everyone by unscrupulous lawyers looking to make big bucks and sometimes harm and ruin good things like our Lifelong Learning College. Anyone who knows me well knows that disabilities are well understood by me. I just hate to see our laws used against common sense and the greater good.

Agreed!!! My bone to pick in this is I know folks who have registered ADA dogs and they don't compare to "comfort" animals or pets. They're highly trained and also are much needed by their humans. People who abuse this should be ashamed of themselves, but that's my opinion. Dogs and pets shouldn't have the same rights.

justjim 02-12-2019 08:46 PM

Good post
 
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Originally Posted by aninjamom (Post 1622474)
We left a restaurant a couple of nights ago, and here's a little dog sitting in the front of an SUV staring at the restaurant. I do not understand a person that can't leave a dog home, but must take it somewhere and then leave it sitting alone in a vehicle/golf cart in a strange place while they go in and enjoy themselves for an hour or more. Some people claim that the dog is destructive if left at home alone; the answer is a roomy crate where their precious has water/food and familiar surroundings until they get back. If you can survive for over an hour in a restaurant or store without your "therapy dog", then you can survive the drive too. These people don't really care about the animal, it's all about them. Pets are not toys.

I like your post...:coolsmiley:

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-13-2019 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1624557)
I like your post...:coolsmiley:

The only time I can even think there would be an exception is if you're just getting a bite to eat on your way to somewhere else. As in - travelling out of state, moving, etc. But even then, I wouldn't leave the dog in the car for more than a few minutes, with the car running, the a/c on or heat on (as is appropriate) and just to pick up a take-out order.

kaydee 02-13-2019 10:51 PM

Legitimate Service dogs/ guide dogs are welcome whenever & wherever....all others need to stay home & the owners need to stop defying the code of common sense & common courtesy!!

Fredster 02-14-2019 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kaydee (Post 1624837)
Legitimate Service dogs/ guide dogs are welcome whenever & wherever....all others need to stay home & the owners need to stop defying the code of common sense & common courtesy!!

:bigbow:

Stormlover 02-18-2019 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1624322)
I think that you might have a dog that you take into stores?

Nope. No pets. No kids.

But I do have an aversion to total strangers walking up to other strangers and grilling them about personal information. It's a little too much 'entitlement' attitude for me. I feel the same way about perfect strangers rubbing their hands over the belly of some pregnant woman they happen to meet on the street or in the stores.

BobnBev 02-19-2019 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormlover (Post 1626005)
Nope. No pets. No kids.

But I do have an aversion to total strangers walking up to other strangers and grilling them about personal information. It's a little too much 'entitlement' attitude for me. I feel the same way about perfect strangers rubbing their hands over the belly of some pregnant woman they happen to meet on the street or in the stores.

Not a whole bunch of them around here.:1rotfl::1rotfl::clap2::clap2::a040::a040:

Cheydan 02-19-2019 08:26 PM

Yes I totally agree! It is never ok to bring your animals into a grocery store.

leftyf 02-20-2019 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheydan (Post 1626324)
Yes I totally agree! It is never ok to bring your animals into a grocery store.

Or Restaurant

skip0358 02-20-2019 08:59 AM

Went out to eat last week. Sitting there and in comes a customer with a DOG in a Baby stroller. Give me a break leave your dog home!
Supermarkets, Restaurants, Department Stores, Squares et. are no place for your fuzzy pets period !

YouNeverKnow 02-20-2019 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 1626398)
Went out to eat last week. Sitting there and in comes a customer with a DOG in a Baby stroller. Give me a break leave your dog home!
Supermarkets, Restaurants, Department Stores, Squares et. are no place for your fuzzy pets period !

Same here! Was at a restaurant in Brownwood and in comes a lady and several of her friends with a fuzzy little “darling” in a baby carriage.
She parked the carriage at the end of her table where the dog was table height. The dog sat in the carriage with his face hanging over the table while they ate and the ladies took turns petting it. This was NOT a service dog people! If it was a “comfort dog” which was very doubtful it should not be allowed in a restaurant slobbering over the table!

CFrance 02-20-2019 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow (Post 1626496)
When will this stop!!

(snipped)
Hopefully soon, as the mods will decide there was enough grousing on this thread.


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