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ThirdOfFive 10-03-2022 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WingedFoot78 (Post 2142618)
Four or five pages on dog poop and three on global warming.......are our priorities a bit screwed up?

I don't think so. Dogs doing their business in various yards is a real, provable event. Global warming is...well...

retiredguy123 10-03-2022 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dotneko (Post 2142876)
It is NOT a public easement. If it were, i would be within my rights parking my golf cart there, having a picnic there, marching there with my political sign. It only allows utility workers access.

Where does it say that in writing? My plat calls it a "right of way", not an easement. The only reference to an easement is in the deed restriction document, which refers to utility workers entering my property, not the "right of way" area. The right of way area between the front lot line and the street is not on my property. But, most utility lines are located on my property, not in the right of way area. In fact, they run within 5 feet of my house, and nowhere near the street or the right of way area.

ThirdOfFive 10-03-2022 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2142753)
We came from N. Florida, about 20 minutes out from Live Oak - very rural, heavily wood.

All those coyote's, squirrels, gopher turtles, hawks, owls, deer, possums, bears, mountain lions - all pooping on our yard, and NO one to complain about it too. Much better here, we can come on here and complain.

And at least the alligators, bears, possums, birds, raccoons here never poop on our grass!

Back home, the occasional moose would drop a load in the yard.

Impressive. By any standard.

dewilson58 10-03-2022 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dotneko (Post 2142876)
It is NOT a public easement. If it were, i would be within my rights parking my golf cart there, having a picnic there, marching there with my political sign. It only allows utility workers access.

Jimmy is correct.............your property line probably does not go to the street.
It's not an easement as you say............it's just probably not your property.

To find out the facts......looks at the county/city records.
Most streets' property in neighborhoods in TV extend wider than the hard surface.
Most homeowners have sprinklers right up to the street.......this is not homeowner property.

As suggested, look at city/county records for your true property line.

dewilson58 10-03-2022 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2142880)
Where does it say that in writing? My plat calls it a "right of way", not an easement. The only reference to an easement is in the deed restriction document, which refers to utility workers entering my property, not the "right of way" area. The right of way area between the front lot line and the street is not on my property. But, most utility lines are located on my property, not in the right of way area. In fact, they run within 5 feet of my house, and nowhere near the street or the right of way area.

You are correct.
Dot is probably in error (not knowing dot's address).
Streets in TV vary, but they usually extend 12 or 15 feet from the middle of the road.
What's the road width??.......20 feet.......so there could be four or five feet of grass on each side.

Oldragbagger 10-03-2022 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2142677)
On my plat, it is not called an easement. It is referred to as a "right of way", and it doesn't say anything about who can use it. I think that trespassing is when you are actually on someone else's property.

Maybe there are differences in the way the lots are laid out in other areas, and I was curious if I was wrong about ours being an easement and not a right-of-way, so I checked my plat map, and here it is. Our property marker flags when we moved in were right at the edge of our yard where it meets the asphalt at the street, and here is my plat map. It is an easement, and only in certain areas. No right of way marked.

I'm not a dog hater and it isn't earth shattering if someone's dog takes a crap in my yard as long as they pick it up (which isn't always the case) but the fact remains that, at least in some neighborhoods, if you are assuming it is fine to walk your dog on the front edge of someone else's lawn because it is a "right of way" you are probably mistaken. Except in Retiredguy123's neighborhood.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...img-4481-a.jpg

dewilson58 10-03-2022 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldragbagger (Post 2142901)

Looks like a villa.
What street??.............don't have to give the address.
That doesn't look like a city/county map.
Jus interested.


UPDATE:
Oh, it's not in The Villages.

retiredguy123 10-03-2022 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldragbagger (Post 2142901)
Maybe there are differences in the way the lots are laid out in other areas, and I was curious if I was wrong about ours being an easement and not a right-of-way, so I checked my plat map, and here it is. Our property marker flags when we moved in were right at the edge of our yard where it meets the asphalt at the street, and here is my plat map. It is an easement, and only in certain areas. No right of way marked.

I'm not a dog hater and it isn't earth shattering if someone's dog takes a crap in my yard as long as they pick it up (which isn't always the case) but the fact remains that, at least in some neighborhoods, if you are assuming it is fine to walk your dog on the front edge of someone else's lawn because it is a "right of way" you are probably mistaken. Except in Retiredguy123's neighborhood.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...img-4481-a.jpg

Interesting. The plat does show a right of way line (R/W), but, it looks like it is located in the street pavement area? There is no indication on the plat where the street pavement is located. But, I suspect that your house is not the normal plat in The Villages. Most houses have a right of way area that extends beyond the street pavement edge or curb.

Warcats 10-03-2022 03:27 PM

Poop
 
Ask them to stop and if they don’t collect your own poops is a bag and adorn their front steps with this festive treat lol

dewilson58 10-03-2022 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Warcats (Post 2142920)
Ask them to stop and if they don’t collect your own poops is a bag and adorn their front steps with this festive treat lol

A post from Warcats..............it's kinda like the cow posters for Chick-fil-A.

:22yikes:

Oldragbagger 10-03-2022 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2142903)
Looks like a villa.
What street??.............don't have to give the address.
That doesn't look like a city/county map.
Jus interested.


UPDATE:
Oh, it's not in The Villages.

Yes, it is a patio villa. IT IS in the Villages, the Village of Hawkins, the Emma Villas.

JMintzer 10-03-2022 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2142882)
Back home, the occasional moose would drop a load in the yard.

Impressive. By any standard.

https://www.throwbacks.com/content/i...-w529-h352.jpg

dewilson58 10-03-2022 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldragbagger (Post 2142930)
Yes, it is a patio villa. IT IS in the Villages, the Village of Hawkins, the Emma Villas.

No help without a street name................county does not care about Emma.

I'm looking at Villas in Hawkins on the following streets.......none of the property lines go to the street:
Tate
Elise
Mizell

Oldragbagger 10-03-2022 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2142946)
No help without a street name................county does not care about Emma.

I'm looking at Villas in Hawkins on the following streets.......none of the property lines go to the street:
Tate
Elise
Mizell

Emma Place

What are you looking at? I was looking at my plat map and my property markers.

Another poster said that they that the right of way extended 10’ from the street. If someone walks their dog 10’ into my yard it is going to be crapping in my lanai. Just saying. Not all lots and neighborhoods are created equal.

Dotneko 10-03-2022 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2142946)
No help without a street name................county does not care about Emma.

I'm looking at Villas in Hawkins on the following streets.......none of the property lines go to the street:
Tate
Elise
Mizell

Reading my deed from St Cats:

Easements and Rights of Way

Easements and R.O.W IN FAVOR OF THE DEVELOPER (bolding mine) are hereby created for the construction, installation and maintenance of utilities such as....
Such easements and rights of way shall be confined to a 7.5 footwidth along rear lines, a 10 foot width along the front line, and a 5 foot width along the side lot lines.


So, these easements are for the developers and utilities use. Not the random dog walkers.


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