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jimjamuser 04-23-2022 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2087443)
The fact that you describe something you don't like or understand that way, based upon nothing other than the fact that you don't like or understand it says nothing about RAP, but it says volumes about yourself.

Much of the music that WVLG plays now, and has been playing for decades, was once blackballed on American AM stations as being too heavily influenced by "Negro" (their word, not mine) music.
Now we hear it everywhere we go, but in the 1950s the music of Bill Haley, Elvis, Buddy Holly and many others was treated with exactly the same level of disrespect based upon ignorance as you just exhibited in that statement.
Congratulations on being proud of your intolerance of things you don't understand, or care for.

"Rock Around the Clock" was on the 1st album that I ever purchased. Now that is a classic that can NEVER die!

Harold.wiser 04-23-2022 01:39 PM

Oxymoron: rap music.

jimjamuser 04-23-2022 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2087454)
Cincinnatians of my generation will remember this: The AM station that focused on Top 40 stuff was WSAI, and there were a couple of other AM stations that were focused more on our parents' tastes, one was WKRC, and WCKY was another. Occasionally a very few songs would cross over. Dean Martin's "Everybody Loves Somebody" was one that crossed one way, and Don McClean's "American Pie" crossed over the other way.
Consequently, my parents who listened to the stations focused on them, never got the difference between the 1910 Fruitgum Company, and The Rolling Stones. They didn't know, they didn't care, they just wanted us to turn the radio down, so they could hear Perry Como better on their record player.
Whether you call RAP music or not, it's just an expression that reflects generational and social mores. In the late 60s a lot of enduring songs were written and played, depicting and encouraging public protest over the war in Viet Nam. Now THAT was an issue for our parents.
First of all, they were aghast that this "new generation" would have the nerve to protest what their government had decided was the best course of action, and secondly, that they would call it "music", when it had a beat, a rhythm, and lyrics like nothing they'd grown up with, and had come to appreciate as worth listening to.
I remember Jack Parr and Steve Allen on TV actually making sarcastic fun of the sound and lyrics to songs we now consider mainstream and hear over the speakers as we walk around the squares of TV.

Does our parents' treatment of the music of the 50s and 60s not bear some resemblance to our generation's (especially if we happen to be white) treatment of RAP?

That was a good post that stirred some memories. "American Pie" was a classic! I thought Jack Parr was pretty humorous, better than the other late-night hosts of that time. As a young person, I thought that Sid Ceasar was EXTREMELY FUNNY.

jimjamuser 04-23-2022 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2087532)
I can't tell if this comment is sarcasm or snark or simply unaware. Have you listened to the language of our generation. F bombs included in most conversations. Flags flying and bumper stickers using that language to attack politicians.

Did you copy and paste a comment you found from the 50s or 60s about rock and roll? The "Devil's music" full of sex and encouraging protest and marching the street. Louie Louie telling us where to touch a woman.. John and Paul telling us to keep our gun warm and happy with our finger on her trigger.. Peter Paul and Mary, Dylan, Guthrie telling us our institutions were war mongers and racists and bigots. Signs, signs, everywhere signs... Clapton praising cocaine or the Stones' sister morphine. How high were you at Eight Miles High? Gracie Slick, the original Gracie Girl, explained that the pill that mother gave you didn't do anything at all, go ask Alice.

Quick.. what song has the phrase "every cop is a criminal"



The old folks never heard that kind of stuff from Sinatra and it all went downhill after Elvis wiggled his pelvis on Sullivan while imitating that Negro music. And they played it all on the radio despite laws controlling the media, and despite the conservative churches railing against it. And here you all are, saying the same tired trite thing about music that took one more step.

Using the phrase responsible music about rock and roll? You must not recall how hated it was and how revolutionary and how it really only spoke to those under 30.

Now for fun... Who said this about rock and roll: Google will tell you

"[T]he most brutal, ugly, degenerate, vicious form of expression it has been my misfortune to hear…. It is sung, played, and written for the most part by cretinous goons and by means of its almost imbecilic retardation and sly, lewd dirty lyrics. It manages to be the martial music of every side-burned delinquent on the face of the earth"

If you believe Rock was meant to be responsible musical entertainment you missed or have forgotten what the responsible people thought about it at the time. Or maybe you were a side burned degenerate then.

How about sex-craved side-burned hippy degenerate? Those were the days!

44Apple 04-23-2022 03:09 PM

Most have an emotional attachment to music they grew up with. Hence, I'm not a fan of 40's or mid 50's music, and can barely tolerate the Doo-Wop artists. Music for me started with the British Invasion and continued for about 15 years. Everyone is different.

BTW, "rap" occupies on a small slice of modern music. No need to become pre-occupied with it.

JMintzer 04-23-2022 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tsmall22204 (Post 2087420)
Just another subject for a grumpy old Villager to complain. Where does it end?

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JMintzer 04-23-2022 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by me4vt (Post 2087448)
Kid Rock, is good!

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JMintzer 04-23-2022 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by diva1 (Post 2087525)
So just ONE song you don't like and you are done with the station forever? That's nuts! Get one dish you don't like at a restaurant and you are done with that restaurant forever? Just one rude sales clerk and you are done with that store forever? You won't be able to do anything anywhere pretty soon!

You just described many Villagers... "One and done"...

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

JMintzer 04-23-2022 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2087532)
I can't tell if this comment is sarcasm or snark or simply unaware. Have you listened to the language of our generation. F bombs included in most conversations. Flags flying and bumper stickers using that language to attack politicians.

Did you copy and paste a comment you found from the 50s or 60s about rock and roll? The "Devil's music" full of sex and encouraging protest and marching the street. Louie Louie telling us where to touch a woman.. John and Paul telling us to keep our gun warm and happy with our finger on her trigger.. Peter Paul and Mary, Dylan, Guthrie telling us our institutions were war mongers and racists and bigots. Signs, signs, everywhere signs... Clapton praising cocaine or the Stones' sister morphine. How high were you at Eight Miles High? Gracie Slick, the original Gracie Girl, explained that the pill that mother gave you didn't do anything at all, go ask Alice.

Quick.. what song has the phrase "every cop is a criminal"



The old folks never heard that kind of stuff from Sinatra and it all went downhill after Elvis wiggled his pelvis on Sullivan while imitating that Negro music. And they played it all on the radio despite laws controlling the media, and despite the conservative churches railing against it. And here you all are, saying the same tired trite thing about music that took one more step.

Using the phrase responsible music about rock and roll? You must not recall how hated it was and how revolutionary and how it really only spoke to those under 30.

Now for fun... Who said this about rock and roll: Google will tell you

"[T]he most brutal, ugly, degenerate, vicious form of expression it has been my misfortune to hear…. It is sung, played, and written for the most part by cretinous goons and by means of its almost imbecilic retardation and sly, lewd dirty lyrics. It manages to be the martial music of every side-burned delinquent on the face of the earth"

If you believe Rock was meant to be responsible musical entertainment you missed or have forgotten what the responsible people thought about it at the time. Or maybe you were a side burned degenerate then.

I've never seen so many lyrics cherry picked and taken out of context in my life...

BRAVO! :clap2::clap2::clap2:

JMintzer 04-23-2022 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2087535)
Great post! Sinatra? (I know he hated R&R)

Yeah, that's why he covered Beatle's songs...

JMintzer 04-23-2022 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 2087541)
When we moved here on ‘05, Big Band was on WVLG. Circle of life.

Did Elton John ever do rap? :1rotfl:

JMintzer 04-23-2022 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 2087565)
If you do not listen to Rap how did you know it was a Rap song? I do not believe it was real Rap. Doubt that WVLG was playing Tupac, Big Daddy Kane or any hard rappers. Probably Salt & Peppa, Nellie or worst of all The Black Eyed Peas all notorious hard rapper thugs. Started in the early 60's with music and have enjoyed many genres in my 65 years. Was told I was going to be a murderer because I listened to Steppenwolf, funny that did not happen. Times change and music follows changing demographics of who go to concerts and buy music. Can not believe that one song overrides the majority of songs you hear. Like not going to a restaurant that serves an item on the menu that you do not like. Oh well pay for a streaming service and only listen to the one channel you like.

When my daughter moved back home after college (in 2017 or 18), she talked us into renting a chicken coop for the back yard. It came with two chickens, one white and one brown. She named them... "Salt & Peppa"...

You post just brought back that memory.. :clap2::clap2::clap2:

JMintzer 04-23-2022 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Petersweeney (Post 2087591)
Your an angry person inside….get help

Methinks you completely missed the point of Laker14's post...

JMintzer 04-23-2022 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2087658)

Weird Al MADE Michael Jackson... :icon_wink:

P.S. Check out "White & Nerdy"...

JMintzer 04-23-2022 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2087679)
It is a result of a changing of the guard. The people that were born in the 1940s are being replaced by those born in the 1960s. That is a difference of 20 years. So, the radio station needs to move its programming somewhat towards song trends of around 1975 or 1980, when those born in 1960 were at their impressionable (music-wise) peak
.........Basically tastes change as we age. I never listened to instrumentals when I was age 15 until just a few years ago - now I like them and have them on right now.
.........There is (or was) an AM local station that played the Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin era. Incidentally, I MUCH preferred Dean to Frank ( I was always an outlier). I even preferred Blondie to Madonna. And I preferred Joan Biaz to Bob Dillon. So, go figure??????

"Joan Baez & Bob Dylan"...

Oh wait, those were just a few of the typical misspellings we've come to expect from your posts...


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