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pearlsam 04-23-2022 07:09 AM

Music choce
 
I second the comment on music. We used to enjoy going to the town squares to listen to the music often. We now attend seldom as the music has changed to cater to the under 60 crowd. I would suggest you, look again at the demographics and see that everyone here is not 55. Motown music survives the ages but hip-hop and rap will not.

davem4616 04-23-2022 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2087270)
I grew up with Sinatra.....not because I was young enough to enjoy his music in his prime but my mother played nothing but Sinatra and Louis Prima and the Witnesses in our house when I was growing up. To this day, I'm a huge Sinatra fan, and LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Louis Prima and Keeley Smith music. I was born too late but so glad my Mom played that music on our stereophonic record player. Thank you, Mom!


When I was in high school, I connected a portable stereo player to a timer and every morning I (and my whole family) woke up to Sinatra singing "The Summer Wind".... I still enjoy listening to his music

Tyrone Shoelaces 04-23-2022 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2087225)
It's the younger old people in the Villages that spend money here. The old timer who orders water with lemon to go with his cheese sandwich and sits at the table for 2 hours and doesn't leave a tip are not WVLGs target audience.

BINGO!
Thank You
As we get older, we're not the majority anymore.

banjobob 04-23-2022 07:31 AM

I just love to sing along with Snoop Dog.and so many other rap stars NOT , who can stomach rap or hip hop over age 40 . I no longer listen to Villages radio either thankful for Sirius radio. The local programming is out of touch with the Villagers.

ThirdOfFive 04-23-2022 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2087323)
Another completely negative and offensive comments about Black culture? Rap has been the predominant popular musical genre for more years than rock and roll topped the charts. You don't have to like rap or opera but you can be certain there are lots of people who enjoy it and have taken the little bit of time and effort to understand it and appreciate it as the dominant musical art form in America now.

And no, most of us would not throw up at it.

Is it the genre or (some of the) content?

I’m not necessarily an aficionado of rap though I did enjoy some of the early stuff (i.e. MC Hammer “Can’t Touch This”), though maybe that would more properly be called pre-rap. But rap is art: if you like it, it is good. And not all of us like the same things when it comes to art.

I think a lot of the objection to rap is because of the content. Face it. Most of the music we grew up with glorified things like love, marriage, “She’s a Lady”, stuff like that. Unfortunately there is some rap that demeans women and glorifies violence. Such content is certainly not my cup of tea, and I think that can be said of most villagers. It is like art in general. A lot of us who enjoy photographic art would strenuously onbject to Andres’ Serrano’s depiction of the crucified Christ in a bottle of urine, for example.

PennBF 04-23-2022 07:32 AM

Shamet of it
 
The shame is that we are and have raised a generation of young adults who think "screaming and yelling out words that are sometimes vulgar and other times just meaning less is acceptable! . It is "junk" and I can't even use the term "music" to identify it. To think the Villages radio station is dumping this on senior citizens who in the main understand what responsible musical entertainment is, is an insult to the majority of residents in The Villages. We go down to the level of "musical bottom feeder" when this attempt is made at entertainment. :ohdear:

Jazzman 04-23-2022 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2087225)
It's the younger old people in the Villages that spend money here. The old timer who orders water with lemon to go with his cheese sandwich and sits at the table for 2 hours and doesn't leave a tip are not WVLGs target audience.

You must have a lot of time on your hands to sit and watch people eat

toeser 04-23-2022 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2087154)
The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

I had to quit WVLG years ago because their streaming option simply does not work. I listen to all of my radio over the Internet or 5G on my phone. As far as I know, WVLG is available for streaming ONLY via The Villages App. I have no problem streaming several different radio stations, Pandora, etc., but streaming via the Villages App dies within 15 minutes every single time I try it.

Too bad, I enjoyed the station.

MandoMan 04-23-2022 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2087173)
Rap???? They either lost their playlist or lost their minds.

Disco, Jackson---OK, after all those that are 62 today were 15 in 1975 and that was their music. I grew up with the Beach Boys, Four Seasons and Beetles, but there are those older Villagers who grew up with The Platters and Bill Haley's Comets. None of us grew up with rap, although most of us would throw up to it:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

This is weird. I spend a lot of my week performing on mandolin or dobro at bluegrass and country jams here in The Villages. When I look at the audience, they seem elderly, like a generation or two older than me. So when it’s my turn to choose a song, I usually choose a song that was a hit before I was born because it will be a special treat and bring back old memories for the audience. Alas, the fact is, these “elderly” people are probably about my age, and even their parents don’t remember Ernest Tubb the Texas Troubadour or “Uncle Josh” Graves and “Bashful Brother Oswald”. I think I’m caught in a time warp. However, it’s a time warp that has no place for rap or disco! Abominations!

spktrue14 04-23-2022 07:59 AM

Ok, so you are all assuming that this is not a 55 and older population. People 55 to 60 years old grew up listening to old school hip hop as well as other music, so you are being extremely subjective to your own age and not thinking of anyone else younger. We (55-60) have to listen to your music, why can’t you listen to ours? Hmmm.

diva1 04-23-2022 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2087154)
The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

So just ONE song you don't like and you are done with the station forever? That's nuts! Get one dish you don't like at a restaurant and you are done with that restaurant forever? Just one rude sales clerk and you are done with that store forever? You won't be able to do anything anywhere pretty soon!

jdulej 04-23-2022 08:12 AM

I challenge anyone to listen to 2Pacs California Love and not catch yourself humming that tune for the rest of the day. I'm 72, and I still like to crank that baby up and let it rip. I do have to wait for a time when my better half isn't home, though!

Heytubes 04-23-2022 08:17 AM

I agree with the OP. Whenever I accidentally tune into the Villages station I change it as some of what they play isn’t my kind of music. But no worries, as the Rappers are killing themselves off.

blueash 04-23-2022 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 2087493)
The shame is that we are and have raised a generation of young adults who think "screaming and yelling out words that are sometimes vulgar and other times just meaning less is acceptable! . It is "junk" and I can't even use the term "music" to identify it. To think the Villages radio station is dumping this on senior citizens who in the main understand what responsible musical entertainment is, is an insult to the majority of residents in The Villages. We go down to the level of "musical bottom feeder" when this attempt is made at entertainment. :ohdear:

I can't tell if this comment is sarcasm or snark or simply unaware. Have you listened to the language of our generation. F bombs included in most conversations. Flags flying and bumper stickers using that language to attack politicians.

Did you copy and paste a comment you found from the 50s or 60s about rock and roll? The "Devil's music" full of sex and encouraging protest and marching the street. Louie Louie telling us where to touch a woman.. John and Paul telling us to keep our gun warm and happy with our finger on her trigger.. Peter Paul and Mary, Dylan, Guthrie telling us our institutions were war mongers and racists and bigots. Signs, signs, everywhere signs... Clapton praising cocaine or the Stones' sister morphine. How high were you at Eight Miles High? Gracie Slick, the original Gracie Girl, explained that the pill that mother gave you didn't do anything at all, go ask Alice.

Quick.. what song has the phrase "every cop is a criminal"



The old folks never heard that kind of stuff from Sinatra and it all went downhill after Elvis wiggled his pelvis on Sullivan while imitating that Negro music. And they played it all on the radio despite laws controlling the media, and despite the conservative churches railing against it. And here you all are, saying the same tired trite thing about music that took one more step.

Using the phrase responsible music about rock and roll? You must not recall how hated it was and how revolutionary and how it really only spoke to those under 30.

Now for fun... Who said this about rock and roll: Google will tell you

"[T]he most brutal, ugly, degenerate, vicious form of expression it has been my misfortune to hear…. It is sung, played, and written for the most part by cretinous goons and by means of its almost imbecilic retardation and sly, lewd dirty lyrics. It manages to be the martial music of every side-burned delinquent on the face of the earth"

If you believe Rock was meant to be responsible musical entertainment you missed or have forgotten what the responsible people thought about it at the time. Or maybe you were a side burned degenerate then.

jdulej 04-23-2022 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2087532)
I can't tell if this comment is sarcasm or snark or simply unaware. Have you listened to the language of our generation. F bombs included in most conversations. Flags flying and bumper stickers using that language to attack politicians.

Did you copy and paste a comment you found from the 50s or 60s about rock and roll? The "Devil's music" full of sex and encouraging protest and marching the street. Louie Louie telling us where to touch a woman.. John and Paul telling us to keep our gun warm and happy with our finger on her trigger.. Peter Paul and Mary, Dylan, Guthrie telling us our institutions were war mongers and racists and bigots. Signs, signs, everywhere signs... Clapton praising cocaine or the Stones' sister morphine. How high were you at Eight Miles High? Gracie Slick, the original Gracie Girl, explained that the pill that mother gave you didn't do anything at all, go ask Alice.

Quick.. what song has the phrase "every cop is a criminal"



The old folks never heard that kind of stuff from Sinatra and it all went downhill after Elvis wiggled his pelvis on Sullivan while imitating that Negro music. And they played it all on the radio despite laws controlling the media, and despite the conservative churches railing against it. And here you all are, saying the same tired trite thing about music that took one more step.

Using the phrase responsible music about rock and roll? You must not recall how hated it was and how revolutionary and how it really only spoke to those under 30.

Now for fun... Who said this about rock and roll: Google will tell you

"[T]he most brutal, ugly, degenerate, vicious form of expression it has been my misfortune to hear…. It is sung, played, and written for the most part by cretinous goons and by means of its almost imbecilic retardation and sly, lewd dirty lyrics. It manages to be the martial music of every side-burned delinquent on the face of the earth"

If you believe Rock was meant to be responsible musical entertainment you missed or have forgotten what the responsible people thought about it at the time. Or maybe you were a side burned degenerate then.

Great post! Sinatra? (I know he hated R&R)


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