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vintageogauge 12-31-2022 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ohioshooter (Post 2171755)
DeLuna already has a problem. During the day it can take up to 20 minutes to get to 44. When we bought our house 6 months ago I was thrilled to be so close to 301. Now sometimes we have to go south to Warm Springs to go north, and we are just getting into the busy season.

They are building 425 family homes on 301 at the Marsh Bend stop light, about 1/2 miles south of the light a 35 acre industrial park, and about 1/2 mile north of the light a large retail complex plus a few smaller developments. All of that plus the fact that if there is a wreck on I-75 or the Turnpike 301 is the detour route be it north or south. I plan on staying home a lot.

Pairadocs 12-31-2022 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2171677)
Because there are too many things to think about when we buy a house.

We get sidetracked by the little things like the color the tile or the bathroom fixtures and forget the main thing is location.

Hit that proverbial nail right on the head...LOL !

Pairadocs 12-31-2022 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2171678)
We played the new executive course in Richmond and had the same experience. We liked the course, with the nice shots across the water hazards and the tricky mounds and swales in front of the greens, but the noise from the turnpike was terrible.

And they were building homes right next to the golf course.

Well, ONE of those things will eventually come to an end.... the other, unfortunately, has no end ! For those who have ever stayed at a motel directly off the interstate, or an airport on sight hotel.... You know the experience.

Pairadocs 12-31-2022 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2171726)
If people like their location good for them but would never buy a lot or house without considering what we are getting ourselves into. Grew up a few miles from JFK airport with planes coming over every 90 or so seconds and taught us to look before we leap.

Sounds like people considering the Villages are really being subjected to an unreasonable amount of pressure. And way does something like that even happen.....usually the answer is "because they CAN". But that does not mean one has to be so desperate as to accept any amount of pressure. I suppose, like most things in life, IF you accept the "sight unseen and make up your mind on the phone, you have 30 minutes, or 60 minutes, then you accept that risk ! ? Seems there "should" be some kind of consumer protection, but we've all come to know better than that.

coffeebean 12-31-2022 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2171774)
Hit that proverbial nail right on the head...LOL !

Sorry, do not agree. Location is first and foremost of a concern when purchasing a new home but that is just me.

Caymus 12-31-2022 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2171657)
We played Southern Oaks course a few months ago. The noise from the TPike was disconcerting. The semis downshifting to slow getting into the Rest Area. Could only imagine those sounds at night when there’s more trucks…. No way. Thankful we live where we do in TV. Ahhhhhh


Just wait, in 40 or 50 years all trucks will be electric, and the noise will be reduced.:laugh:

Hardlyworking 12-31-2022 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2171780)
Just wait, in 40 or 50 years all trucks will be electric, and the noise will be reduced.:laugh:

They will still have tires.

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-31-2022 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2171778)
Sorry, do not agree. Location is first and foremost of a concern when purchasing a new home but that is just me.

It's not the first, for me. But it's up there on the top 5 and there are definitely dealbreakers. For me "location" is a pretty broad category. For instance - I wouldn't want to be on the inside corner of a sharp turn, in New England where icy roads + sharp turn = car skidding through your living room window. A location dealbreaker for me here in the Villages would be the part of the golf course where the first ball can easily hit my living room window.

Highway noise for me isn't much of a dealbreaker. I can always just turn off my hearing aids, and it ends up being just generic white noise when the windows are open. Our house up north backed up to a Senior Housing apartment complex (just two buildings) - and the highway was right behind the complex. We could watch the traffic, and hear it if we were paying attention. It was only bad when there was a convoy of motorcycles. The kid living next door to us made more noise than the highway with his car speaker turned on full blast while he polished the car in the driveway.

Location for me is - anything that at least -appears- to be natural, mature plantlife. Brand new neighborhood that I might have to wait 3-5 years to enjoy looking at shade trees that actually provide shade to myself or my neighbors - is a deal-breaker. A courtyard villa area where everyone is sandwiched in like sardines with solid walls dividing their yards from each other - is a deal-breaker.

RICH1 12-31-2022 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2171721)
With the lottery system we were told, "There is no guarantee you'll get a house- Ever". And there is only a window of a couple of hours to say, "Yes" or "No" when you get the call telling you you are #1 on the lottery (beating up to 20 others who were in the lottery for the same house). So if you are 2,000 mile away- like we are when the phone call comes: 1) You feel REALLY lucky that you have gone from "Maybe Never" to "We have a house". There is no time to fly down, so you say, "YES". To make it even more difficult you can only be in 1 lottery for 1 house at a time. I hope this gives people an understanding of why people are desperate to get any house that is offered- and worry about moving, or making a petition later.

Got caught up in their rouse!

RICH1 12-31-2022 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2171775)
Well, ONE of those things will eventually come to an end.... the other, unfortunately, has no end ! For those who have ever stayed at a motel directly off the interstate, or an airport on sight hotel.... You know the experience.

Noise till death do us part !

Papa_lecki 12-31-2022 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2171777)
Sounds like people considering the Villages are really being subjected to an unreasonable amount of pressure. And way does something like that even happen.....usually the answer is "because they CAN". But that does not mean one has to be so desperate as to accept any amount of pressure. I suppose, like most things in life, IF you accept the "sight unseen and make up your mind on the phone, you have 30 minutes, or 60 minutes, then you accept that risk ! ? Seems there "should" be some kind of consumer protection, but we've all come to know better than that.

Seriously, it’s the developer’s fault?
It’s called supply/demand. Despite the posts on this forum, The Villages is one of the hottest real estate buys in the country, demand is WAY outrunning supply.
The turnpike has been there for years.

Garywt 01-01-2023 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2171515)
Lack of Due Diligence shouldn’t cost every Villager money… Stop the Madness
Signed,

Jake Brake

I have read this, read some responses and ha zero clue as what you are saying, end the noise, end a petition, do nothing? No idea what this post is trying to accomplish.

LAFwUs 01-01-2023 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2171813)
Seriously, it’s the developer’s fault?
It’s called supply/demand. Despite the posts on this forum, The Villages is one of the hottest real estate buys in the country, demand is WAY outrunning supply.
The turnpike has been there for years.

Our VLS agent - last month - stated they average around 700-800 houses being listed for sale per month between MLS & VLS, with 400 or so of those selling.

Busy market, absolutely, but "demand outstripping supply",
umm, not so sure on that.
There is plenty of supply. In fact last I checked, there were still new homes in Deluna that had not sold for what?, 6-9 months post opening up...

Its clear the turnpike was already there. I don't think anyone is debating that. What is the complaint(s), is that TPTB have done little and in some cases, literally nothing at all, to abate even the obvious noise pollution from it, that has always been there before the first foundation was laid in the south end. (let alone the visual & air pollution concerns living so close, etc) They have only reduce the purchasing price on some, as if this wont affect the homes value & potential buyers of any said property, for as long as the turnpike is in use (ie: forever).
This is not a small issue involving a few unhappy buyers.
Lower home values, reputation, petitions of public record & lawsuits anywhere in the villages, can draw down all properties within it, even those in unrelated areas. The more they build at/near/over/around the turnpike, the greater the impact this all will have. I fear this is just the start of it.

I do feel bad for those that bought sight unseen, pressured by a perceived lack of availability, thinking everything shown in village sales publications from 2010, was how it actually is in the newly constructed areas of the far south end.
Having now lived in both sections, as many others have, the two areas are not at all the same.

retiredguy123 01-01-2023 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2171780)
Just wait, in 40 or 50 years all trucks will be electric, and the noise will be reduced.:laugh:

Almost all of the traffic noise is caused by the friction between the tires and the road. Electric vehicles will do very little to reduce highway traffic noise.

BlueStarAirlines 01-01-2023 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2171825)
Not true. Almost all of the traffic noise is caused by the friction between the tires and the road. Electric vehicles will not reduce highway traffic noise.

So downshifting before the serviced entrance will still be noisy because of tire friction?


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