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Caymus 01-01-2023 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2171825)
Almost all of the traffic noise is caused by the friction between the tires and the road. Electric vehicles will do very little to reduce highway traffic noise.

Rumor has it that they will also be self-driving hover vehicles. :jester:

sowilts 01-01-2023 05:54 AM

We live south of 44, Linden. Checked it out before we purchased our lot and cannot hear any turnpike noise. Some that live near to the turnpike may have more noise. Play Southern Oaks and it is a great 18. Fantastic place to be.

westernrider75 01-01-2023 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2171657)
We played Southern Oaks course a few months ago. The noise from the TPike was disconcerting. The semis downshifting to slow getting into the Rest Area. Could only imagine those sounds at night when there’s more trucks…. No way. Thankful we live where we do in TV. Ahhhhhh

Lumping every house “in the south” together is just ignorant. Where we are in Monarch Grove we hear only a white noise type sound at times and at other times we hear nothing. It doesn’t bother us at all. We hear no trucks downshifting or any other noises like that. We also have played Southern Oaks and I agree it can be loud at certain holes, but you would expect that since it’s literally right next to the roadway.

WingedFoot78 01-01-2023 07:04 AM

Is it really necessary for the Villages to keep expanding? Where will it stop? Tampa? Orlando? We were told in 2016 that the Villages would stop at CR 44. That lasted a year or two. Since then, the TOTV has been rehashing this issue ad nausium. How about ripping up the offending portion of the turnpike and put in homes, golf courses, and, of course, pickle ball courts. Oh, yes, more roundabouts. What to do with the turnpike? I haven't figured that one out yet. I'll get back to you on that later.

GizmoWhiskers 01-01-2023 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2171515)
Lack of Due Diligence shouldn’t cost every Villager money… Stop the Madness
Signed,

Jake Brake

Close your eyes and listen... the turnpike sounds like the ocean (saves you the 2 hr ride to the beach) with ocassional fire crackers. At night, invest in a white noise machine. Works like a charm... zonks ya out in minutes.

RICH1 01-01-2023 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by westernrider75 (Post 2171835)
Lumping every house “in the south” together is just ignorant. Where we are in Monarch Grove we hear only a white noise type sound at times and at other times we hear nothing. It doesn’t bother us at all. We hear no trucks downshifting or any other noises like that. We also have played Southern Oaks and I agree it can be loud at certain holes, but you would expect that since it’s literally right next to the roadway.

White noise ?

retiredguy123 01-01-2023 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueStarAirlines (Post 2171828)
So downshifting before the serviced entrance will still be noisy because of tire friction?

I don't know how much downshifting contributes to noise, but according to Google:

"Tire and road noise are the two biggest factors when it comes to traffic noise. Since electric vehicles don't improve that part of the equation, overall traffic noise will still be there. When isolated, electric vehicles are very quiet, but from afar, highways and busy roads will still sound roughly the same."

RICH1 01-01-2023 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2171777)
Sounds like people considering the Villages are really being subjected to an unreasonable amount of pressure. And way does something like that even happen.....usually the answer is "because they CAN". But that does not mean one has to be so desperate as to accept any amount of pressure. I suppose, like most things in life, IF you accept the "sight unseen and make up your mind on the phone, you have 30 minutes, or 60 minutes, then you accept that risk ! ? Seems there "should" be some kind of consumer protection, but we've all come to know better than that.

Well said….

defrey12 01-01-2023 08:31 AM

I live in Fenney. There’s a petition? To do what? By whom? Yes, that’s how well organized they are…Caveat Emptor.

sallyg 01-01-2023 08:53 AM

We live in Marsh Bend. Lots of green space, beautiful facilities. We've heard the turnpike once in a while outside, late at night, taking the dog out. Not an issue here.

RICH1 01-01-2023 08:59 AM

Lol…

Manders 01-01-2023 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2171515)
Lack of Due Diligence shouldn’t cost every Villager money… Stop the Madness
Signed,

Jake Brake

Sounds reasonable. Move a highway because someone didn’t do their research and moved next to it.

If you were king, what solution would you propose? Close the highway??

Stu from NYC 01-01-2023 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by WingedFoot78 (Post 2171845)
Is it really necessary for the Villages to keep expanding? Where will it stop? Tampa? Orlando? We were told in 2016 that the Villages would stop at CR 44. That lasted a year or two. Since then, the TOTV has been rehashing this issue ad nausium. How about ripping up the offending portion of the turnpike and put in homes, golf courses, and, of course, pickle ball courts. Oh, yes, more roundabouts. What to do with the turnpike? I haven't figured that one out yet. I'll get back to you on that later.

If you were the Morse family and your business makes a good return on investment by continuing to expand would you stop?

Veracity 01-01-2023 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2171777)
Sounds like people considering the Villages are really being subjected to an unreasonable amount of pressure. And way does something like that even happen.....usually the answer is "because they CAN". But that does not mean one has to be so desperate as to accept any amount of pressure. I suppose, like most things in life, IF you accept the "sight unseen and make up your mind on the phone, you have 30 minutes, or 60 minutes, then you accept that risk ! ? Seems there "should" be some kind of consumer protection, but we've all come to know better than that.

This is simply not true. The "lottery system" is used only for new-construction houses so as not to create "bidding wars" which could unreasonably inflate the prices of new houses (and The Villages and their sales agents would be making windfall profits on certain homes). If they were to take the highest bidder, instead of using the "lottery system" they could not control the price of some houses from going through the roof, and many newly constructed houses would most likely be beyond the reach of the average home buyer. Bidding wars would probably be in the best interest of The Developer, but they have instead come up with a system to protect consumers against price gouging. We threw our name into the hat for a couple homes in Richmond which we did NOT get. It does not cost anything to enter the lottery for the opportunity to buy a specific house. We were told that if we won the lottery that we would have a short amount of time to put down a deposit to finalize the deal because there would be others on the waiting list. No one forces you to buy the house, even after winning the lottery. They don't care if you back out because they will simply offer it to the next person, until they eventually get a serious buyer who puts down a deposit. You have 24 hours to move forward...or not. Each time we entered the lottery, our Villages Sales Agent told us to consider the noise from the turnpike. Eventually, we gave up on Richmond because we were getting too close to the turnpike for our liking. Sure, we were disappointed that we didn't get the house we wanted, but someone else is happy, and no one got the house by paying more than what it is worth. Our sales agent is looking for another house and with the recent slowdown in the housing market, we are certain that we will find a great location within our tolerance to the turnpike noise (we want to be south because that is where we are currently renting a house and we love the walking paths and nature trails in the southern area). I think that people are very quick to blame the Developer, or a Sales Agent instead of themselves for their own impulse buying. There is enough demand for these houses, that there is no need to put pressure on anyone to buy. If anything, we found that they are trying to tamp down the pressure by using a a process that does not pit buyer-against-buyer and gives people the opportunity to easily back out, but like everything else, the buyer needs to do their own due diligence and know what they are buying. That's on you, not The Developer and not the Sales Agent.

Karmanng 01-01-2023 10:19 AM

sorry
 
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Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 2171653)
The whole reason we never moved into a house in the south end was because of the turnpike noise. The turnpike never sleeps. All you had to do was go see in the house in person before buying and you couldn't have missed the noise.


I actually bought near the turnpike much to my surprise! I never heard it once when we were outside discussing what to offer. AND again when I went back there in late fall still did not hear it. Heard if mildly when on the exercise area but no biggy. Renters say depending on the way the wind blows they can hear it only if in front of house. My section must be blocked pretty good....Village of LINDEN


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