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Bogie Shooter 06-01-2024 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GATORBILL66 (Post 2336535)
So now with rainy season coming, we will have to put our windows down to open the gates. How stupid is this?

Do you only use the gates when it’s raining? How stupid is this?

Angelhug52 06-01-2024 08:18 AM

Whenever possible just go through the manned gate wave and go. No need to burnout window motors. The gates may serve some purpose but we are not a gated community. Why not do away with the cards and just have gate open when we pull up? Save money.

Regorp 06-01-2024 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 2336378)
But the buttons aren't affected, right?
the gate system will only operate with valid cards active in the system.

Never a fan of red button. How safe are we when anyone can access our neighborhood by pressing a button?? I wish everyone had to use a gate card, but probably not feasible.

billethkid 06-01-2024 08:21 AM

The concept of a resident and visitor gate here in TV adds no value of any kind.....except eye wash!

.......thinking out loud....the visitor lane should have to push the red button...a sensor could easily determine when the gate goes up vs resident lane......gate attendants involvement not required (for race starts).

bsloan1960 06-01-2024 08:24 AM

If our existing card will still work, why won't an exact clone in a car mirror still work? How do a card and a clone differ?
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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2336353)
I received this from VCDD: (Please do not shoot the messenger....)

e-Notification
Subject: Administrative Message - Special Notification to All Newsletter Subscribers
Date: 5/31/2024

Important Gate System Update Notice – UPDATED INFORMATION
The District Government is implementing an update to our gate system to support future enhanced functionality.
Please note the following important information:
• Beginning JUNE 2024, the gate system will only operate with valid cards active in the system.
• This update to the card reader software does not affect the existing red button functionality. The red button can still be used to access gates throughout the community.
• If one of your cards is not working, please bring both cards that were originally issued as a pair to one of our offices for assistance.
Our offices are located at:
• NORTH SATELLITE OFFICE 1200 Avenida Central in La Hacienda
• DISTRICT CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER 984 Old Mill Run in Lake Sumter Landing
• SOUTH SATELLITE OFFICE 4856 S. Morse Blvd. just south of SR 44
Please contact Customer Service at 352-753-4508 or visit one of our offices to determine if your card needs replacement.
We apologize for any inconvenience and appreciate your cooperation as we work to upgrade our community's access system.


dewilson58 06-01-2024 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Regorp (Post 2336550)
Never a fan of red button. How safe are we when anyone can access our neighborhood by pressing a button?? I wish everyone had to use a gate card, but probably not feasible.

Thousands and Thousands of visitors, contractors, etc., yes............Not feasible.

retiredguy123 06-01-2024 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2336556)
Thousands and Thousands of visitors, contractors, etc., yes............Not feasible.

Hundreds of genuine gated communities would disagree.

dewilson58 06-01-2024 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelhug52 (Post 2336549)
No need to burnout window motors.

How big of an issue is this in TV???

:confused:

dewilson58 06-01-2024 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2336561)
Hundreds of genuine gated communities would disagree.

We are not a gated community, so let them disagree all they want.

Rhetorical..........Where is there a comparable community....population, staffless gates, volume of visitors, volume of contractors, public streets?

golfing eagles 06-01-2024 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2336565)
We are not a gated community, so let them disagree all they want.

Rhetorical..........Where is there a comparable community....population, staffless gates, volume of visitors, volume of contractors, public streets?

But none of that even matters since the roads are owned by the county. You can't stop a non-resident from using those roads any more than the Villages could put a toll gate on I-75

retiredguy123 06-01-2024 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2336569)
But none of that even matters since the roads are owned by the county. You can't stop a non-resident from using those roads any more than the Villages could put a toll gate on I-75

Correct. But, as I understand it, gated communities assume ownership and maintenance for the roads within their gates. It is done with an agreement with the county.

Maker 06-01-2024 09:16 AM

The cards in use are made to a standard for how they operate. The reader (the 6 inch square panel on the pedestal) is constantly transmitting a "is there a card out there" signal. That tiny bit of RF energy is captured by the card, used to power up the card, and send out its long ID number. Card reader picks up that signal and sends that ID number to the gate controller computer to be processed. There are billions of numbers so security depends upon obscurity.

Then the gate controller computer compares that ID number to a list of all valid numbers in its database. If it finds that number, it opens the gate. A cloned card replies with the identical number as the original card, so everything else happens the same. We do not have the high security encrypted cards, those cannot be easily copied.

A lost card should (normally) be deactivated. Its ID is removed from the database, and if found will not match, so gate stays down. Any cloned cards also do not match and gate stays down.
Buy WHY? Since the red button allows anyone to enter, who cares what method is used to get past?

I wish the announcement was " To enhance to convenience for all residents, we will now allow any RFID card to open the gates. That includes all vehicle toll devices such as Ezpass. "
Which also begs the question... why don't the entry gates behave same as the exit gates? Overall same functionality, at a much lower cost.

Ken D. 06-01-2024 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2336561)
Hundreds of genuine gated communities would disagree.

Tha majority of those only have one (maybe two) main entrances. Stop and think how that would apply here.

Bogie Shooter 06-01-2024 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2336573)
Correct. But, as I understand it, gated communities assume ownership and maintenance for the roads within their gates. It is done with an agreement with the county.

So we can pay for maintenance twice……..

PurePeach 06-01-2024 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 2336378)
But the buttons aren't affected, right?
the gate system will only operate with valid cards active in the system.

Please read the second bulleted item.


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