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Michael G. 05-20-2022 10:20 AM

Let's talk about that he wants to eliminate the gate going to BJ's and Lowes.
It makes to better reading. :popcorn:

dougjb 05-20-2022 10:25 AM

I'm not trying to be a smart a**, but I have always been curious why we always refer to the Morse family as "The Developer". Its almost like we fear being struck by lightning if we call them by their given names. These folks have a surname. Why don't we just say the Morse family said this....or the Morse family said that...or the Morse family failed to do this or the Morse family deserves....?

By refering to the creators of The Villages (through their generations) as "The Developer" is a little like saying "The Great and Powerful Wizard of Oz." I prefer calling people by their name. Afterall, they are people! They are not hiding behind a curtain!

Richpetty42 05-20-2022 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2096959)
I hear he said off camera, he wants to eliminate the gate going to BJ's and Lowes.

Don’t think that would happen, too many people use that to shop in surrounding businesses who only have golf cart to use. It would make lots of people very upset, The developer knows that gate gets a lot of traffic for residents in TV so that seems less likely to happen & hearsay trying to start trouble & not based on facts

Stu from NYC 05-20-2022 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2097307)
Wrong source. That's Nucky's tollbooth. He rolls it in when he needs the extra bucks to cover the cost of his [REDACTED]

Wonder if we could rents it out.:a040:

Stu from NYC 05-20-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2097312)
The closest thing to a sports bar is Gators at Brownwood. Sports bars have a gazillion TV's and good bar service, none of which are present in The Villages. Before you tell me McGrady's is a sports bar, it has one tv.

Somehow I suspect more tv's will be coming soon.

Richpetty42 05-20-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 2097112)
Why start a stupid rumor like this? All it will do is get the loonies worked up. Remember, got to keep the loonies on the path!

Totally agree with you, that gate gets lots of use for surrounding businesses & cutting off access to that for those who only use golf carts would not be a smart idea. Fact less post only made to start rumors & stir the pot making trouble

Michael G. 05-20-2022 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Richpetty42 (Post 2097324)
Don’t think that would happen, too many people use that to shop in surrounding businesses who only have golf cart to use. It would make lots of people very upset, The developer knows that gate gets a lot of traffic for residents in TV so that seems less likely to happen & hearsay trying to start trouble & not based on facts

Then way doesn't TV invite the outsiders from other subdivisions to come through that
gate to help the economy in TV???

Don't make sense

LianneMigiano 05-20-2022 10:50 AM

Why not build apartments in the empty lots @Buffalo Ridge?
 
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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 2096954)
...
Mark teased us with new retail/commercial that will be coming to Buffalo Ridge ... I assume this is in addition to Hobby Lobby which was already announced...There is a waiting list for The Lofts apartments. They believe there is a demand for apartments near the squares. Hence, they are pushing forward with Spanish Springs apartments...

Why not build apartments in the empty lots around Buffalo Ridge? The land has been predominantly empty for the 12 years that we've lived here. It's much quieter than Spanish Springs Town Square! :bigbow:

rustyp 05-20-2022 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2097331)
Then way doesn't TV invite the outsiders from other subdivisions to come through that
gate to help the economy in TV???

Don't make sense

Just maybe the developer would rather you buy a home in TV and protect the obvious premium price a house here demands Vs one in Stonecrest. Once again I ask why does anyone believe the economy in TV needs help ? Show me where the Morse's have stated SS is operating in the RED. They are simply looking for other ways to maximize profits with an added side bonus of less headaches.

Bogie Shooter 05-20-2022 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2097331)
Then way doesn't TV invite the outsiders from other subdivisions to come through that
gate to help the economy in TV???

Don't make sense

You know this has been hashed over so many times the topic is worn out!
Outsiders don’t pay for our multi-modal paths so shouldn’t use them.
:popcorn::popcorn:
More to follow……

photo1902 05-20-2022 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2097331)
Then way doesn't TV invite the outsiders from other subdivisions to come through that
gate to help the economy in TV???

Don't make sense

You’re kidding, right?

Tommyc6 05-20-2022 11:07 AM

Thanks to the Morse family we all enjoy a terrific lifestyle, the Morse family obviously has great wisdom, vision and business sense. I’m sure their decisions are not done in haste like some of the comments made by residents. Without growth places like Spanish Springs town square could be in danger of withering away.

Thank you Morse Family

Tom C

Ps please keep gate open.

Bogie Shooter 05-20-2022 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LianneMigiano (Post 2097334)
Why not build apartments in the empty lots around Buffalo Ridge? The land has been predominantly empty for the 12 years that we've lived here. It's much quieter than Spanish Springs Town Square! :bigbow:

Big draw there,,,,..looking across 466 at the school complex.:doh:

Villages Kahuna 05-20-2022 02:06 PM

Condo sale = book one profitable transaction

Apartment rental = ongoing cash flow, depreciation, escalating asset value

NatureBoy 05-20-2022 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brynnie (Post 2097284)
Oh, geez. Not another sports bar. Why can’t we get some upscale restaurants here? So tired of same old, same old.

I checked the restaurant's web site and it is an "Old Florida atmosphere" not a sports bar.

Interestingly, they only have one location, but they have a very nice web site. I wonder if The Developer did a search for a restaurant with the atmosphere they want and offered Harry's the spot.

Two Bills 05-20-2022 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 2097340)
You’re kidding, right?

I think the correct term is, stirring!

Stu from NYC 05-20-2022 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2097394)
Condo sale = book one profitable transaction

Apartment rental = ongoing cash flow, depreciation, escalating asset value

They could make it a condo by giving themselves a very long term managing contract but other than that you are correct.

Jayhawk 05-20-2022 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2097308)
Just commenting on these two things.

In addition, the Lofts come with their own amenities
and gated private parking. Using waiting lists at the Lofts as justification to repurpose second-floor apartments over an existing storefront is stupid and makes no sense. The two can't compare. The waiting list is more likely because the Lofts come with ALL of those things, not merely living space for rent with parking spaces that aren't sectioned off and unavailable to the public.
.

Name the special amenities for The Lofts residents.

Because I know people who utilize the Club House and pool on a regular basis and are NOT residents of The Lofts. Any of us can use it, just need to reserve if you want the use of the kitchen and grill.

thevillages2013 05-20-2022 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 2097112)
Why start a stupid rumor like this? All it will do is get the loonies worked up. Remember, got to keep the loonies on the path!

The paper holds their folded faces to the floor and everyday the paperboy brings more

New Englander 05-20-2022 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2096962)
:loco::loco:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2096959)
I hear he said off camera, he wants to eliminate the gate going to BJ's and Lowes.

My barber told me the same thing.

shut the front door 05-20-2022 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougjb (Post 2097320)
I'm not trying to be a smart a**, but I have always been curious why we always refer to the Morse family as "The Developer". Its almost like we fear being struck by lightning if we call them by their given names. These folks have a surname. Why don't we just say the Morse family said this....or the Morse family said that...or the Morse family failed to do this or the Morse family deserves....?

By refering to the creators of The Villages (through their generations) as "The Developer" is a little like saying "The Great and Powerful Wizard of Oz." I prefer calling people by their name. Afterall, they are people! They are not hiding behind a curtain!

Actually, they are. How often do you see any of them hanging out at the square and shaking hands, as the original developer did? One or two of them come out from behind the curtain once a year to tell us how lucky we are that they have blessed us with such a wonderful life.
Many of you forget, they didn't PROVIDE us with this. We paid a premium price to live here. Capitalism, not generosity provided this lifestyle.

Jayhawk 05-20-2022 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2097442)
Many of you forget, they didn't PROVIDE us with this. We paid a premium price to live here. Capitalism, not generosity provided this lifestyle.

One would assume Capitalism, not generosity was behind MOST of the residents of TV being able to afford living here.

shut the front door 05-20-2022 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2097448)
One would assume Capitalism, not generosity was behind MOST of the residents of TV being able to afford living here.

Absolutely! I'm not bashing capitalism in the least. Just tired of hearing how the developer "blessed us" like we are welfare idiots sucking on his teets.

Joe V. 05-20-2022 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2097442)
Actually, they are. How often do you see any of them hanging out at the square and shaking hands, as the original developer did? One or two of them come out from behind the curtain once a year to tell us how lucky we are that they have blessed us with such a wonderful life.
Many of you forget, they didn't PROVIDE us with this. We paid a premium price to live here. Capitalism, not generosity provided this lifestyle.

If I was a billionaire I would not want to hang with the riff-raff either.

Stu from NYC 05-20-2022 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2097448)
One would assume Capitalism, not generosity was behind MOST of the residents of TV being able to afford living here.

Sad that some many youngsters think capitalism is the worst thing in the world and we need socialism.

rustyp 05-20-2022 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2097466)
Sad that some many youngsters think capitalism is the worst thing in the world and we need socialism.


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Socialistic or capitalistic ? You label each one ! By the way educate me on the one you drew the line between socialist and capitalistic and why you drew the line at that point.

JoMar 05-20-2022 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2097442)
Actually, they are. How often do you see any of them hanging out at the square and shaking hands, as the original developer did? One or two of them come out from behind the curtain once a year to tell us how lucky we are that they have blessed us with such a wonderful life.
Many of you forget, they didn't PROVIDE us with this. We paid a premium price to live here. Capitalism, not generosity provided this lifestyle.

You paid a premium price to live here because of what the Schwatz/Morse vision built and provided to us that moved here. We did nothing except buy a house. We do nothing to preserve what they built except write a check so we can continue to use what they provided. We all moved here because of what they provided, if they didn't provide what we wanted we wouldn't be here. If it what they provided no longer meets our needs why the heck are we still here? Or is just the need to complain because they were able to provide what we wish we could have done? End of mini rant!

Bogie Shooter 05-20-2022 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2097442)
Actually, they are. How often do you see any of them hanging out at the square and shaking hands, as the original developer did? One or two of them come out from behind the curtain once a year to tell us how lucky we are that they have blessed us with such a wonderful life.
Many of you forget, they didn't PROVIDE us with this. We paid a premium price to live here. Capitalism, not generosity provided this lifestyle.

If you saw members of the Morse family on the squares………..how would that change your life? Yea, I thought so….no change!
You paid a premium price (your opinion), if so that was your choice. How can you blame someone else?

BobnBev 05-20-2022 07:26 PM

Why does he always look like a homeless person?

kcrazorbackfan 05-20-2022 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2097442)
Actually, they are. How often do you see any of them hanging out at the square and shaking hands, as the original developer did? One or two of them come out from behind the curtain once a year to tell us how lucky we are that they have blessed us with such a wonderful life.
Many of you forget, they didn't PROVIDE us with this. We paid a premium price to live here. Capitalism, not generosity provided this lifestyle.

Are you really serious? The Family go to a square to mingle and some of the idiots that live here in TV find that out? Talk about a real s#%t storm…. Their lives would genuinely be threatened.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-20-2022 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2097408)
Name the special amenities for The Lofts residents.

Because I know people who utilize the Club House and pool on a regular basis and are NOT residents of The Lofts. Any of us can use it, just need to reserve if you want the use of the kitchen and grill.

In the context of my overall post: "their own" is in contrast to "have to leave the property to get to."

Yes, those amenities are available for other Villagers. But only the people in the Lofts have access to it without having to leave the Lofts property to get to it. Everyone else has to leave wherever they're living, to get to those Lofts amenities. With the Spanish Springs apartments, there will be no amenities "on site." Tenants will have to leave Spanish Springs town square to get to the nearest rec center.

Not sure why some folks have such a hard time understanding this.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-20-2022 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2097448)
One would assume Capitalism, not generosity was behind MOST of the residents of TV being able to afford living here.

The present rise in housing costs notwithstanding, your assumption is erroneous.

From the very beginning of the Villages, it was marketed as a place where everyone of any income level could afford to live here and enjoy the amenities equally.

We were solidly in "lower class" but above poverty level when we moved here. We're still well under $50k/year, with pension and social security and one of us working part time.

So cut it with the "able to afford" living here horsepucky. There are plenty of us who live here BECAUSE we couldn't afford to live wherever we came from, and this was the affordable option to living in poverty.

photo1902 05-20-2022 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 2097487)
Are you really serious? The Family go to a square to mingle and some of the idiots that live here in TV find that out? Talk about a real s#%t storm…. Their lives would genuinely be threatened.

I couldn’t have said it better.

Papa_lecki 05-20-2022 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2097331)
Then way doesn't TV invite the outsiders from other subdivisions to come through that
gate to help the economy in TV???

Don't make sense

One of the reasons there’s a premium on the houses inside the bubble, is because of the exclusive golf cart access.
It helps the Developer on their sales, it also helps out property value.

Papa_lecki 05-20-2022 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2097408)
Name the special amenities for The Lofts residents.

Because I know people who utilize the Club House and pool on a regular basis and are NOT residents of The Lofts. Any of us can use it, just need to reserve if you want the use of the kitchen and grill.

The pool is also a family pool anyone can use

Timothyimitchell 05-21-2022 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2097472)
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Iceland
Denmark
Switzerland
Netherlands
Sweden
Germany
Norway
New Zealand
Austria
Israel
Australia
Ireland
United States
Canada
Czech Republic
Belgium
United Kingdom
Taiwan
France

Socialistic or capitalistic ? You label each one ! By the way educate me on the one you drew the line between socialist and capitalistic and why you drew the line at that point.

You will own nothing and be happy!

Jayhawk 05-21-2022 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2097488)
In the context of my overall post: "their own" is in contrast to "have to leave the property to get to."

Yes, those amenities are available for other Villagers. But only the people in the Lofts have access to it without having to leave the Lofts property to get to it. Everyone else has to leave wherever they're living, to get to those Lofts amenities. With the Spanish Springs apartments, there will be no amenities "on site." Tenants will have to leave Spanish Springs town square to get to the nearest rec center.

Not sure why some folks have such a hard time understanding this.

What's the difference? Residents of The Lofts have to leave there to go to any other recreation center, pool etc.

Not sure why some folks have such a hard time understanding this.

Jayhawk 05-21-2022 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 2097486)
Why does he always look like a homeless person?

Maybe like the rest of the family and employees, they don't flaunt their wealth. And they are a hard-working family. It would do a lot of people some good to walk in their shoes. While we are at the golf course or crafting class or the pool, they are working to make it great for every resident.

Bogie Shooter 05-21-2022 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 2097486)
Why does he always look like a homeless person?

Wow, it’s come down to criticizing the way one dresses………………..

Stu from NYC 05-21-2022 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 2097486)
Why does he always look like a homeless person?

So rich people have a dress code now? Maybe he likes being comfortable.


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