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Chi-Town 03-03-2022 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2067855)
I bet even modern Mexicans can tell you what the United states did to them in 1846 and how it compares to what Russia is doing to Ukraine.

Let's hope that Ukraine can do what a ragtag group of Mexicans did to France in 1862 (Cinco de Mayo).

courtyard 03-03-2022 01:54 PM

The "ragtag" group of Mexicans where really trained soldiers and they did defeat a company of French foreign legion soldiers, but Mexico remained under the control of the French for several years until 1865 when 50,000 American soldiers went to the border to enforce the Monroe Doctrine to tell the French to leave.

MrFlorida 03-03-2022 02:19 PM

Check your pretty high IQ ? you misspelled Ukraine...

Bjeanj 03-03-2022 02:19 PM

Interesting article providing some insight in Wall Street Journal that describes China’s reaction to Putin’s war on Ukraine. Right now, at least, is available without subscription.

China Declared Its Russia Friendship Had ‘No Limits.’ It’s Having Second Thoughts. - WSJ

Bjeanj 03-03-2022 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by courtyard (Post 2067796)
I've read on "Censored News" that Putin is concerned about the bioweapon labs all over Ukraine that the US is funding and are leaking viruses too close to Russia's border. Also, he is helping two Ukrainian areas to break away from their Soros-funded government.

I’m sorry, but that sounds like conspiracy theory crazy stories to me.

Rainger99 03-03-2022 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=Grill Meister;2067775]I have tested with a pretty high IQ; however, I don't understand what is going on in the Ukrain and need someone to help me understand. I have a hearing problem and cannot understand most of the TV news and I have not read anything comprehensive in The Daily Sun or any other tribunal. Please straighten me out.

For a very short but detailed explanation, check out this YouTube video.

Gravitas Plus | Explained: The Russia-Ukraine crisis, Gravitas News | wionews.com

There are lots of other videos.

Gravitas News - Latest Gravitas News, Breaking Gravitas News, Gravitas News Headlines | wionews.com

JMintzer 03-03-2022 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by courtyard (Post 2067796)
I've read on "Censored News" that Putin is concerned about the bioweapon labs all over Ukraine that the US is funding and are leaking viruses too close to Russia's border. Also, he is helping two Ukrainian areas to break away from their Soros-funded government.

Yeah, no...

New Englander 03-03-2022 04:54 PM

Putin will go down in history with the same reputation as Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot.

Madelaine Amee 03-03-2022 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 2067816)
Remember when Hilary and all the others sat in the war room and watch them get bidladen....

One can only hope....

Unfortunately, this is a very different situation. Bin Laden was in a poorly constructed compound, I would guess Putin is holed up in the Palace in Moscow surrounded by loyal henchmen who are prepared to die for him. Getting to him must be almost impossible and if we missed it would be a nuclear war. He appears to have lost all reason.

DAVES 03-03-2022 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Grill Meister (Post 2067775)
I have tested with a pretty high IQ; however, I don't understand what is going on in the Ukrain and need someone to help me understand. I have a hearing problem and cannot understand most of the TV news and I have not read anything comprehensive in The Daily Sun or any other tribunal. Please straighten me out.

1) Putin - Has he given a public statement as to why and what he hopes to accomplish by sending in the military, bombing, destroying and killing so many thousand of Ukrainians? I realize that Ukrain was once part of the USSR before it broke up. Is this an ego trip for Putin to seek revenge....a power play? What does he accomplish with his military actions?

2) What is NATO and, especially, America doing about Putin's invasion. I understand that we and some NATO nations have imposed "sanctions" on Russia and I am told those sanctions have frozen Russia financial assets around the globe. So, is that a big deal? Sounds to me like a slap on the wrist: "Vladamir, you're a bad, bad boy. Go sit in the corner and think about what you did'? I hope, and more especially I pray :pray:, that this situation doesn't end up with WWIII. But how can we and other NATO nations stop this massacre without sending in our troops and have American life's lost? Or should we just stay the hell out of the situation?

3) If we or any other NATO nation sends in troops and goes head to head with Russia, will China join in with Russian forces against us.....how about North Korea or ISIS forces.

:pray::pray::pray::pray::pray:

What is going on? Truth is we do not know. Typically of all news, it depends on who you ask. We are fed Putin THINKS, Putin's goal is. It is all simply speculation.

There is so much information and so many missing pieces.

My dad used to be with the news. My OPINION, so much of what we know or think we know is in reality theatrical presentations, further spun by bias. A simple example there is an auto accident. Involved are two drivers and 4 witnesses. In reality there will at least 6 different tales about what happened usually more than that. The REAL NEWS happens behind closed doors and in non-recorded communication.

My view is with Ukraine but while my forefathers came from Latvia, in that region I had to look at a map to know where Ukraine is. As I understand it under the Czars they were all part of Russia.

As far as Ukraine, as I see it without outside help they would have been crushed in hours. We object, I object to obvious targeting of civilians. History, civilians are always caught up in WAR. When did we cross the line is debatable-Sherman in our civil war? In our revolution civilians entered the battles, spied, made weapons etc etc.
WWII the germans bombed London, the Brits and Americans bombed German cities.
The US dropped the atomic bomb on civilians.

History-there is no shortage of books. If we had. If we had not. The war wouldn't have happened.

I have a strange view of most things. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE.

Putin is to his apparent surprise in an impossible position. How does this story end?
Putin reversing and pulling out of Ukraine with Russia paying for the damages he has caused-no chance. Putin resorting to nuclear war? Perhaps? The world escalating this sending American troops? Good chance of when they corner Putin he goes nuclear.

If, I was writing a novel, the only POSSIBLE BEST ENDING is if Putin either commits suicide or he is killed. The Russians have a long tradition of this. Poison had been popular.

WE including ME sit in our offices and post. Imagine if we had missals, bombs dropping around us and heavy armor surrounding us?.

jimbomaybe 03-03-2022 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2067847)
i'll be sure to do that, next time i run into a mexican that was there in 1846. Any questions i should ask next time i run into a trojan or a carthaginian?

lol

Topspinmo 03-03-2022 07:59 PM

When bully wants something he takes it. Now holding one to it may be different story.

Topspinmo 03-03-2022 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2067847)
I'll be sure to do that, next time I run into a Mexican that was there in 1846. Any questions I should ask next time I run into a Trojan or a Carthaginian?

Also ask him how he got rid of all the local natives that was here before him?

Ken Nelson 03-03-2022 08:39 PM

Truth is (my unpaid opinion), we do not know what Russia is up to. All media outlets are telling their scripts....We cannot help Ukraine without causing damage to their country (sanctions, blah)....from what I can see, they (Putin) are trying to put back what was lost in the cold war....or at least part of it.

gdennis317 03-03-2022 09:34 PM

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