Thereare 2 different things going on here. There is the putting course where there is not car parking. The pitch and putt course does not allow golf carts. Both courses do not allow golf carts.

I take exception with that. I swim a mile and a half 6 days a week, some days when I have the time I swim two and a half miles. Three days a week I then go to the health club and do the full nautilus circuit. I never get tired swimming and am constantly exercising, not lazy, just do what my body lets me get away with. However, walking over a half mile is just not happening unless there is an emergency that dictates it. I could walk a mile and a half if I absolutely had to, but then I would spend the next two days in a recliner with my knees on ice so I could walk again. You obviously don't get it, some people simply can't walk that far without consequences. It's not whining, it's cold hard reality.

I understand the concern for the walking distance for some folks but after doing some measurements, the actual walking distance from the Sugar Cane parking lot to the PnP is slightly less than 1/4 mile. The walking distance for the course itself is over 1/2 mile. The initial walk seems longer than it really is. It seems like people are complaining of the price of the taxi ride to the casino.

None the less, it was a pretty poor decision not to have any parking for cars. I brought this issue up at (I think it was) the June PWAC meeting; the bottom line is that it's the developer's issue not the Rec Department or PWAC or any other part of The Village local governments issue to deal with. The developer owns the property and pays the Rec Dept to operate to operate and maintain it. It's not ours yet to make any changes to it. There's not been discussion about SLCDD purchasing the new amenities from the developer, yet, I can assure you that if it does happen within the next 3 1/2 years this parking issue will be brought up if it hasn't been resolved, by me if nobody else.

If the people in Fenny are complaining, I wonder to whom they complain and if anyone listens? If the Putt and play is supposed to be for everyone then the streets in front of Fenny will have to put up with this or get the positioning changed, When I get back to golfing there is no way I can walk 1/2 mile. Plus where do you get a cart? i will definitely have to park in front of someones home, on a street that We All Own. Sorry Fennyites!
BTW I am not whining, I am stating the reality of my situation. Also if there are not golf carts what do people do. Maybe the developer could have a trolley like they do at the hospital to take people ov:MOJE_whot:er to the courses. I could work with tat.[B][/12]

If you park at the Fenney Rec. Center you can go in and get a putter to use then ask for a ride to the course via one of their golf cars and get picked up when ready, they announced this months ago when people were complaining. If you are fit and able to walk the 1/4 mile you shouldn't use this option but if you are unable to walk it this is your alternate. So you have 3 choices, park at the pool and walk, get a ride from the rec. center, or park in front of someones home and pi__ them off, your final choice depends on the type of individual you are. There had to be a reason they didn't provide a parking lot for cars but I can't imagine what it could have been. They should have built this next to the archery range and dog park in DeSoto.

I can handle the course because it has benches where I can sit while waiting for the golfers ahead of me. I wish there were more benches, one at every hole. And I wish the benches were not so low to the ground. But there are enough that I can work with it.

When my family visits, they love the putt and play, and I want to play it with them.

I will never be able to play the pitch and putt unless they allow carts for accommodated players, or if I can take my scooter.

I suspect that when Wildwood accepts the streets they will put up legal no parking signs in front of the homes so they can ticket.

They would only ticket if someone is in violation, if parking is not allowed why on earth would anyone park there?

Are these roads not County maintained roads (or eventually will be)? And if parking is not allowed, how would this affect contractors, lawn mowing companies, etc?

These roads are within Wildwood which will be or already is responsible. These are different than those north of Rt. 44 which are in unincorporated Sumter County which are maintained by the county.

OK, so Wildwood or county roads, and if signs are posted in the neighborhoods for no parking, how will this affect contractors.

Go to the Fenney sales office when it is busy, and in a very loud voice ask for a lift to the putting course, "AS THERE IS NO CAR PARKING, AND ALL THE NEARBY STREETS ARE BLOCKED WITH CARS!"

You forgot the smiley......

That would sure get YOU a lot of attention, good or most likely bad, but wouldn't help correct the situation.

Up north, north of 44 many ladies park along our street when attending ladies samba every Monday at our house. I wonder if that would be permitted down south in Fenney after parking rules are changed. If not, I am happy to be living where we are in the Villages north of 44.

The bottom line: the kids screwed up. They need to fix it.

Tried to take grandkids there but after seeing how far to walk from a parking area ...We left...Never going back:boom:

How about filling in the moat around the course and make that parking lot?

The water around the course is the Catch & Release fishing area.

The additional walking would be problematic for me. :(

I agree

I live in a villa. There are people parking in front of my house most days. I never even thought of complaining, I knew we didn't own the street. I have not seen the situation but I wonder what the problem at Fenny is.

The streets in question are fairly narrow, first of all. Second, when BOTH sides of the street are occupied by vehicles, the actual pass-through is only one lane wide.

What they really should do is the same way we do up here in the north when it's a minor, somewhat narrow road: no parking on one side of the street. The other side you can park on.

Perhaps it was planned to be a local amenity that wouldn't draw people from outside, but it's new so people are coming to check it out. What do consider the outside? Are the outsiders the people outside the Villages or just in other Villages. Obviously, they can't make it for just a few Villages.

I am typically a strong proponent of the developers, but in this particular case they got it way wrong on several fronts. First, what were they thinking putting in a walking only course in a 55+ retirement community where many of the amenity fee paying residents have physical restrictions. Next, why is there only golf cart parking at a facility that does not allow golf carts to be used at the facility?? Lastly, why is there only golf cart parking at a facility where a very small percent of the Villages residents have golf cart access??? None of it makes sense! We all make mistakes, hopefully the decision makers will realize their mistake, live and learn, and correct the mistake and do everything possible from letting it happen again.

Yep, that's what I think...it wasn't a "mistake."

I think it was intended primarily only for those who currently live so far away from the rest of TV...and can't get 'here' by golf cart.

If a mistake was made, it was underestimating the popularity...of having a putting only course.

It wouldn't surprise me if we hear about Da Family closing down one of the executives north of 466A (probably one of them in the worst shape?)...and turns it into a 'Putt & Play' and/or also another walking 'Pitch and Putt.' :shrug:

I vote for that.:coolsmiley: Especially since several of the golf experts on here are telling us we should be working on our short game. And the practice putting greens provided at the execs are flat and not a good representation.

I agree. And, there seems to be plenty of space to convert the existing parking lot to allow both car and golf cart parking.

Won't the new golf cart bridges, when put in place, take care of the parking problems? Use your cart and not your car to access P&P just like the residents are accessing the executive golf courses now?

I don't think it will. People who live north of Rt 44 are not going to drive a golf cart 10-20 miles to get to the putting course. And, a lot of people don't even have a golf cart.

Exactly this. I think someone up-thread posted tongue in cheek about closing one of the executive courses up north, and turning it into a putting course. Though it might have been sarcastic, I think it's a good seed for a good idea. Maybe not close an exec. But find room to create a putting course up north. Somewhere on the northern end of the space between 466A and 466, which would be "centrally located" for anyone who is north of 44A.

This would certainly alleviate a lot of the parking issues on the streets of Fenney, because most car drivers would have a convenient second option and possibly even closer to their own homes.

Actually, I wasn't being facetious...I was serious.

It wouldn't surprise me...if it happens. :ho:

Sometimes after reading your posts I wonder if we share a brain in another dimension.

There is some agreement regarding that...………………..

Predicated on the ability to attract those who can barely squeeze out a snarky one-liner most of the time, instead of an intelligent/cogent response...you may have a point.

:ho:

I love the idea of building a new Putt and Play in this area, even if it means losing or modifying one of the executive courses.

However, this area is not managed by the Developer. The amenities here were sold to the Sumter Landing CDD, and is now under their jurisdiction, with input from Project Wide. So, to make this happen, someone needs to petition the Project Wide Committee.

I'm not a golfer, and don't live in that CDD (or even in Sumter County). But if enough people like the idea who DO golf, and live in that CDD, they could perhaps get together and discuss it at a Rec center meeting.

For those thinking of asking for another PnP be built north of 44 the below statement applies from your deed restrictions.

"Article III... Each Owner agrees that as additional facilities are requested by the Owner(s) of Homesites and the erection of such additional facilities is agreed to by the Declarant, that upon a vote of one half (1/2) of the owners requesting such additional facilities and the commencement of charges therefor, to monthly Contractual Amenities Fee provided for in this section shall be increased accordingly without the limitations set forth herein. For the purpose of all votes the Declarant shall be entitled to one (1) vote for each Homesite owned by the Declarant. The monthly charges shall be paid to the Declarant or its designate each month to insure the provision of the services being paid for. ..."

Translation, if you want something new and >50% of the homeowners agree to it then the amenities fees are raised to cover the cost of building and operating it. AKA - Nothing is free.

In light of all the flap and whine over the deferral rate and people being told that the amenities rates are going to go up, at the rate they previously agreed to, just to balance the budget, the chance of raising it more to build this or anything else new are probably zero.

:read: https://www.districtgov.org/images/F...d-Approved.pdf

Here's where you would start...... :ho: