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Bogie Shooter 03-15-2022 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 2072746)
There is usually a cart crossing on the other side of the gate. Maybe it is to slow down traffic enough to let a few carts cross the road?

No maybe’s about that.

Stu from NYC 03-15-2022 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2072696)
Stu, gate houses had to be a part of the original design by the developer...as time when by the gate houses seemed to become a thing of the past...IMO

But in the Fenney area there are gatehouses so still wondering why some do and some do not.

Mrprez 03-15-2022 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2072765)
But in the Fenney area there are gatehouses so still wondering why some do and some do not.

There is a gatehouse going into the new Richmond area as well.

bimmertl 03-15-2022 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2072759)
No maybe’s about that.

The Springdale gate off Buena Vista isn't manned and there is a golf cart crossing just beyond the gate. Never saw or heard of a problem with carts versus cars at that gate.

JMintzer 03-15-2022 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2072721)
Traffic circles do not slow down traffic, stop lights do. Curves in roads are natural except on MMP.

Incorrect. Their main purpose is to improve traffic flow, albeit at a slower pace...

JMintzer 03-15-2022 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2072706)
I always believed those gates with push buttons and guards in guard houses are there
to get traffic to stop long enough to profile them through videos on entry.

No, they don't do that...

Mrprez 03-15-2022 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 2072789)
The Springdale gate off Buena Vista isn't manned and there is a golf cart crossing just beyond the gate. Never saw or heard of a problem with carts versus cars at that gate.

And what would be the result of the removal of the gates? Cart drivers would be taking their lives into their own hands trying to cross.

bimmertl 03-15-2022 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 2072821)
And what would be the result of the removal of the gates? Cart drivers would be taking their lives into their own hands trying to cross.

Never said the gate should be removed. How did you come to that erroneous conclusion?

Reply was in response to allegations that an attendant is needed at gates that have golf cart crossings close to gates. There is no attendant at the Springdale gate, which has a golf cart crossing just beyond the gate, and there are no problems.

JMintzer 03-15-2022 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2072765)
But in the Fenney area there are gatehouses so still wondering why some do and some do not.

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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 2072783)
There is a gatehouse going into the new Richmond area as well.

Manned or unmanned? Unmanned gatehouses are just for the aesthetics...

SIRE1 03-15-2022 01:42 PM

To go back a little ways in history, before 2003 or so The Villages was truly promoted as a "Gated Community". There weren't any little red buttons on any of the entry gates. So there had to be gated attendants to allow visitors and contractors into the neighborhoods. The location of the manned gates were positioned so that at least one entrance to a neighborhood would be through a manned gate. For neighborhoods with more than one street entrance, those other streets were controlled by a Gate Card ONLY entrance.

But somewhere around 2003, Marion County decided that since the roads inside the neighborhoods were public, The Villages could not restrict access to the public. So a red button was provided to allow anyone access thru those previous Gate Card ONLY entrances. Shortly after that, the red button access was added to all of the other Gate Card ONLY entrances. I'm not sure whether Sumter County saw what Marion County had done and mandated this in their county or adopted by The Villages as a cost savings measure to a manned gate. And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

And, as I recall, previously to the introduction of the red button at all gates The Villages sales & marketing indicated that this was a gated community. All of that changed with the introduction of the red button. And then suddenly, the sales & marketing proclaimed the gates, manned and non-manned, as a traffic control measure.

So the manned gates don't appear to serve any function any more. But The Villages spends money to add bathrooms to the ones still here, like they did to one on the historic side. It will be interesting if any manned gates will ever be included to the new areas south of the turnpike.

Stu from NYC 03-15-2022 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2072831)
Manned or unmanned? Unmanned gatehouses are just fir the aesthetics...

Fenney is manned except when a female is there opening the gates.

Michael G. 03-15-2022 02:15 PM

In other words all of tv is gated, not guarded as the sales people like to make you believe.

Or here's my favorite, selling lots on a lake.
NO, it's a pond.

JMintzer 03-15-2022 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2072839)
Fenney is manned except when a female is there opening the gates.

Ah, so then they're "femaled"... :clap2:

Bogie Shooter 03-15-2022 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SIRE1 (Post 2072833)
To go back a little ways in history, before 2003 or so The Villages was truly promoted as a "Gated Community". There weren't any little red buttons on any of the entry gates. So there had to be gated attendants to allow visitors and contractors into the neighborhoods. The location of the manned gates were positioned so that at least one entrance to a neighborhood would be through a manned gate. For neighborhoods with more than one street entrance, those other streets were controlled by a Gate Card ONLY entrance.

But somewhere around 2003, Marion County decided that since the roads inside the neighborhoods were public, The Villages could not restrict access to the public. So a red button was provided to allow anyone access thru those previous Gate Card ONLY entrances. Shortly after that, the red button access was added to all of the other Gate Card ONLY entrances. I'm not sure whether Sumter County saw what Marion County had done and mandated this in their county or adopted by The Villages as a cost savings measure to a manned gate. And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

And, as I recall, previously to the introduction of the red button at all gates The Villages sales & marketing indicated that this was a gated community. All of that changed with the introduction of the red button. And then suddenly, the sales & marketing proclaimed the gates, manned and non-manned, as a traffic control measure.

So the manned gates don't appear to serve any function any more. But The Villages spends money to add bathrooms to the ones still here, like they did to one on the historic side. It will be interesting if any manned gates will ever be included to the new areas south of the turnpike.

Didn’t the CDD pay for the bathroom, not TV?

Michael G. 03-15-2022 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2072819)
No, they don't do that...

And you know that for sure, HOW?


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