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Stu from NYC 03-15-2022 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2072865)
Ah, so then they're "femaled"... :clap2:

Irregardless of this why do some gates have a house with attendant and some not?

JMintzer 03-15-2022 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2072869)
And you know that for sure, HOW?

Traffic studies. Read up on them. Google is your friend...

JMintzer 03-15-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2072870)
Irregardless of this why do some gates have a house with attendant and some not?

"Regardless" of that, it most likely a simple matter of aesthetics, space constraints, or simply because that's what the Developer wants...

Mrprez 03-15-2022 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2072831)
Manned or unmanned? Unmanned gatehouses are just for the aesthetics...

Don’t know yet. There is a gatehouse, but no houses yet.

Mrprez 03-15-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 2072825)
Never said the gate should be removed. How did you come to that erroneous conclusion?

Reply was in response to allegations that an attendant is needed at gates that have golf cart crossings close to gates. There is no attendant at the Springdale gate, which has a golf cart crossing just beyond the gate, and there are no problems.

There are far more crossings with no attendant than with. It is hazardous either way.

Bilyclub 03-15-2022 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SIRE1 (Post 2072833)

And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

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There are manned gates South of 466 and 466A. At least 5 off of Buena Vista. There are some off of Morse too.

Bogie Shooter 03-15-2022 04:07 PM

do a search on gate attendants. There are over 300 posts that say the same thing over and over.
Topic now competing with dog poop threads.
No new information....................................... ...................................

midiwiz 03-15-2022 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryP (Post 2072604)
All gates with or without attendants have access buttons.

None of this is a gated community just a community with gates

Hockey dude 03-15-2022 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SIRE1 (Post 2072833)
To go back a little ways in history, before 2003 or so The Villages was truly promoted as a "Gated Community". There weren't any little red buttons on any of the entry gates. So there had to be gated attendants to allow visitors and contractors into the neighborhoods. The location of the manned gates were positioned so that at least one entrance to a neighborhood would be through a manned gate. For neighborhoods with more than one street entrance, those other streets were controlled by a Gate Card ONLY entrance.

But somewhere around 2003, Marion County decided that since the roads inside the neighborhoods were public, The Villages could not restrict access to the public. So a red button was provided to allow anyone access thru those previous Gate Card ONLY entrances. Shortly after that, the red button access was added to all of the other Gate Card ONLY entrances. I'm not sure whether Sumter County saw what Marion County had done and mandated this in their county or adopted by The Villages as a cost savings measure to a manned gate. And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

And, as I recall, previously to the introduction of the red button at all gates The Villages sales & marketing indicated that this was a gated community. All of that changed with the introduction of the red button. And then suddenly, the sales & marketing proclaimed the gates, manned and non-manned, as a traffic control measure.

So the manned gates don't appear to serve any function any more. But The Villages spends money to add bathrooms to the ones still here, like they did to one on the historic side. It will be interesting if any manned gates will ever be included to the new areas south of the turnpike.

The gate houses serve several purposes. We provide directions to those who are lost and looking for help. Each gate house has the directions for each village that is around it.

We also call in traffic accidents and disabled vehicles that we see or are brought to our attention.

Many of the gate houses have heavy traffic and we help control the traffic flow. Too many people speed thru the gates and risk a serious accident with a golf cart.

The gate attendants are also CPR trained for emergencies.

Currently south of 44 there is a gate house at the Marsh Bend roundabout, one inside the main Feeney gate off of Warm Springs, and one under construction on Meggison Road.

The Marsh Bend gate house has the word maps (directions) for all the current new villages under constructio. From Chitty Chatty to St. Catherine to the rest of new construction along the turnpike.

jimkerr 03-15-2022 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SIRE1 (Post 2072833)
To go back a little ways in history, before 2003 or so The Villages was truly promoted as a "Gated Community". There weren't any little red buttons on any of the entry gates. So there had to be gated attendants to allow visitors and contractors into the neighborhoods. The location of the manned gates were positioned so that at least one entrance to a neighborhood would be through a manned gate. For neighborhoods with more than one street entrance, those other streets were controlled by a Gate Card ONLY entrance.

But somewhere around 2003, Marion County decided that since the roads inside the neighborhoods were public, The Villages could not restrict access to the public. So a red button was provided to allow anyone access thru those previous Gate Card ONLY entrances. Shortly after that, the red button access was added to all of the other Gate Card ONLY entrances. I'm not sure whether Sumter County saw what Marion County had done and mandated this in their county or adopted by The Villages as a cost savings measure to a manned gate. And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

And, as I recall, previously to the introduction of the red button at all gates The Villages sales & marketing indicated that this was a gated community. All of that changed with the introduction of the red button. And then suddenly, the sales & marketing proclaimed the gates, manned and non-manned, as a traffic control measure.

So the manned gates don't appear to serve any function any more. But The Villages spends money to add bathrooms to the ones still here, like they did to one on the historic side. It will be interesting if any manned gates will ever be included to the new areas south of the turnpike.

Yes, it looks like the new Village of Richmond will have a gate attendant.

maistocars 03-15-2022 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2072721)
Traffic circles do not slow down traffic, stop lights do. Curves in roads are natural except on MMP.

Pretty sure I would rather have a nice flow of traffic with traffic circles than the huge backup on 466 and Morse that happens every day with the light.

Stu from NYC 03-16-2022 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hockey dude (Post 2072988)
The gate houses serve several purposes. We provide directions to those who are lost and looking for help. Each gate house has the directions for each village that is around it.

We also call in traffic accidents and disabled vehicles that we see or are brought to our attention.

Many of the gate houses have heavy traffic and we help control the traffic flow. Too many people speed thru the gates and risk a serious accident with a golf cart.

The gate attendants are also CPR trained for emergencies.

Currently south of 44 there is a gate house at the Marsh Bend roundabout, one inside the main Feeney gate off of Warm Springs, and one under construction on Meggison Road.

The Marsh Bend gate house has the word maps (directions) for all the current new villages under constructio. From Chitty Chatty to St. Catherine to the rest of new construction along the turnpike.

OK understand the value but why do some gates have attendants and many do not?

Worldseries27 03-16-2022 04:53 AM

Rocinante mcrn
 
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Originally Posted by stu from nyc (Post 2072870)
irregardless of this why do some gates have a house with attendant and some not?

it's the inners vs the belters

Worldseries27 03-16-2022 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by michael g. (Post 2072851)
in other words all of tv is gated, not guarded as the sales people like to make you believe.

Or here's my favorite, selling lots on a lake.
No, it's a pond.

and it sure ain't golden. Always expecting troy and his swamp boat to come roaring by

Bellavita 03-16-2022 05:15 AM

I like the maned gates they make our Villages safer. Eyes on the ground.


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Originally Posted by lennyclark (Post 2072597)
Manned gates / non manned gates. Can the villages remove the gate attendants I recently see the villages installing gate access buttons to the visitors gate that did not previously have them..are manned gates codified in deeds or documents
Or can the villages eliminate the maned gates. Thank you



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