Why should the amount of people who have access be monitored at all? These are public roads. Does it really matter how many people have access to our through our gates? I don't think so. As I and others have said already, it is not about security, it is about allowing the golf carts the ability to proceed at the gates.

The gates system is a great system of ensuring there is harmony on the roads between cars and golf carts.
Just wish it were easier for the drivers to proceed through the gates.

Honestly? Have you been here in the summer months?

Since gates are only to slow down cars so golf carts have a fighting chance to cross the road, who has access is not a big deal.

What is mind boggling is at 4am the rescue truck with full lights and sirens, had to stop at the gate to push the button. Yes it only took a few seconds, but what if the button did not respond. Then running thru the closed gate works for me. Since both of us are capable of doing full compressions we can wait for the truck to push the button :MOJE_whot:

My card does work with the window closed, but why do we have them in the first place? Doesn't matter who you are, the gate guards open the gate for anyone. Just sayin.

Agree, and if comming off a roundabout, in many instances you are in the guest lane anyway, and saves changing to resident lane where there is usually a queue before barrier.
Stay dry, stay warm, and use your personal gate opener!

I never open my window to use my gate pass. I just pull up closer to the reader and slightly wave my pass close to the window. Works just fine.

:ohdear: There are gates that are "UNMANNED" :oops:

All of the gates on Canal are unmanned.

Unpersoned.

Instead of the arms and gates install 4 way stop signs and make them visible for both cars & carts

:1rotfl::1rotfl: Yeah that will work!

Big discussion on a different post about only slowing down for stop signs. Won't work

Why not use the process of exiting...when a car pulls up, the gate goes up. The only change I would recommend to accommodate the golf carts is that the gate would do a full cycle....all the way up, all the way down rather than just staying up when another car is present. This would allow carts to pass and not require driver interaction.

Everyday this week we had cars come through on our bumper to avoid the gate

Technologically this place is still in the 90's, the 1890's.

In my opinion the only reason there are gates is to give the impression that this is a gated community. I seriously doubt that golf cart safety was ever considered. The Villages is selling the image of a special lifestyle, therefore the gates are a part of the image.

It is very easy to suggest a different/better method of card/car reading.
What we have is probably the lowest cost method (not intended as a negative comment).

All the other auto card readers would require a change out of all the equipment at every entry point in TV....plus control center(S).

A significant expenditure to change to a "more convenient" method.

No system will satisfy the users who are for some reason always in a hurry.

Are we ready to have our amenity fees increased to pursue/purchase these new systems?

I for one am not. The current method works just fine.....most of the time.

What is needed in TV is a significant change in enforcement. The reason there are so many "moving violations" in TV.... there is no fear of enforcement.

More ticketing, escalating fines, more enforcement presence......just like the little towns everybody is familiar with....that have 25 mpg speed limits and notorious for enforcement.....everybody slows down to 25....funny how THAT WORKS!!!!

Tap your brake pedal and then stop, wait 30 seconds. They should get the message.

Do you have a golf cart?

Very good summary...........

:ohdear: There is a sign at each gate saying the gate closes after each vehicle. :popcorn:

:ohdear: And IMHO your opinion is wrong. Nobody ever said this was a gated community. The only people that think that didn't do their homework before buying and are now upset..... but not with themselves. Gates ARE there for traffic control. A long time before there ever was a Village of McClure they moved a lot of MM paths from in front of gates to behind gates for safety reasons. :ho:

:1rotfl: Wrong thread..... this is not the joke thread! :clap2:

What does that have to do with what I said?

Never said it was, but the image TV wants prospective buyers to believe is that is a gated community. And what source can you provide that states the original intent of the gates was for traffic control?

I think that’s an opinion. The nature of the gates was never misrepresented to me.

Your implying that the gates are not needed suggests you do not own a golf cart. If you did you would understand the lack of gates would force you into some serious circumstances.

Defining a source for gates as traffic control is irrelevant. Common sense would say they are.

The gates are there to slow down vehicular traffic so the golf carts can proceed on the cart path at the gates. At the present time, the gate cards is the system The Villages has for residents to open the gates.

Some posters, including myself, have voiced a wish for a new system to open the gates. As system that will eliminate the gate cards and allow the driver to go through the gates without ever having to take their hands off the steering wheel. But.......at this point and time, we must live with the gate cards.

Nor I.....my sales rep made it clear that the gates were for traffic control of golf carts, bikers that use the MMP's, walkers and joggers. Also made it clear that the roads were County roads not the Developers with the exception of the Villas. He was also specific that this was NOT a controlled community and that security was our responsibility, the gates will not keep anyone out. We have been here 5 years and have never seen representation that this was a gated community.

Not all gates are manned so there is a red button to push to open the gate. If it is pouring rain, you can get a bit soaked just pushing the red button.

When you exit a neighborhood area, you drive up to the gate and it opens automatically. If they wanted to eliminate the cards, they could use the same system at the neighborhood entrances. There would be no reason for any other system.

Do it all the time but it is not necessary to ride on the bumper of the car ahead of you. The camera at the gates can "see" you when you are pretty far back. In fact, depending on where you are located, if you sit there waiting for the gate to come down, it won't. It will stay up and bobble a bit but won't come down. That is why I just proceed behind another car through the EXIT gate without the gate coming down.

I doesn't take much to realize this is not a true gated community. When a driver can push the red button at an unmanned gate and gain entry, you must realize this is not a gated community. As someone said earlier, this is a community with gates. I will add to that, security is not the reason for the gates. What ever the original reason was for including gates in this community, I think allowing golf carts to proceed onto the golf cart paths at the gates is the one and only positive thing that comes out of having the gate system.

:confused: What's that..... and is it allowed? :rolleyes:

:ho: I think another positive thing we get from the gates is - a little safety because the uninformed that don't live here might think it's a gated community. The uninformed that do live here..... well that's never going to change. :ho:

I completely agree. And the momentary stop still allows the camera to take a picture.

Gates at an entrance or at an exit are by definition a traffic control device. :)


This took 2 minutes to find on the www......


"According to the MUTCD, what are traffic control devices? "All signs, signals, markings, and other
devices used to regulate, warn, or guide traffic, placed on, over, or adjacent to a street, highway,
pedestrian facility, or bicycle path by authority of a public agency having jurisdiction." Automatically or
manually operated gates installed and operated under authorization of a public agency to control traffic
accessing public streets are considered as traffic control devices based on this definition."

You make a big assumption....that golf carts will stop & yield at the gates. Remember they don't have a gate!

I don't have a golf cart, but aren't golf carts crossing the street at the car exit gates as well as entrance gates?