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bioman419 12-12-2021 12:58 PM

Strikes most often happen in day light hours. Community Watch tracks strikes and if struck by automobiles / trucks, a photo is taken. Hopefully they're able to contact the "striker" and issue an invoice for trpair.

DOGSAREKEEPERS 12-12-2021 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2038983)
(sit and wait for the gate to come down then inch forward to trigger it to raise again)

That would mean stopping about where the golf carts cross, prior to the electric eyes, while the car in front exits. Then waiting there for several seconds for the system to determine no other cars are present and lower the gate.

Many (most? all?) the exit gates I go through seem to be adjusted to keep the arm up for a steady stream of cars to pass; the gate only goes back down a few seconds after the final car has gone by. I assume this was done intentionally to facilitate exiting traffic flow.

However, when I venture to other areas I occasionally encounter a gate that doesn't wait and comes down immediately and between cars. This unexpected behavior has caused me to hit the brakes in a hurry. I can understand how this might result in some gate strikes. k

Just as all the reader plates should be at the same height and same distance from the vehicles, all the exit gates should operate the same so drivers know what to expect.

Exit gates have you pull up and when you trip the sensor the gate opens. If you pull up in a hurry that gate may not have time to lift before you hit it. Entrance gates are waiting for you to push the button or swipe your card. Once you do the gate lifts and as you pass the sensor it then comes back down. If you don't move forward and trip the sensor the gate will stay open until it times out. (which isn't very long unless you are in a hurry, then it seems forever) If you are behind a car that starts to go & you don't wait for the car to clear the sensor before you swipe your card, your card will not register. If you proceed, that gate will come down when it is timed out & you will be a piggy backer. Regarding the statement that all gate post card card readers should be at the same height...the posts were here before the business got started of wanting to install cards in the mirrors. Therefore, not all vehicle mirrors will be at the same height as the post sensors so not all may work the same.

CWGUY 12-12-2021 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2039042)
Another "this is not a true gated community" post. Yes, it is not truly gated, and no, the gates are NOT there to "dupe" gullible potential buyers. But there is 24/7 video surveillance and 3x/day community watch passes by each house. Gee, maybe there's a reason that 32162 and 3 are among the safest zip codes in the country, despite not being truly "gated"

:icon_wink: No need....... uninformed/ignorant buyers "dupe" themselves. :duck:

Garywt 12-12-2021 01:06 PM

I read that there are about 2500 broken gates a year. What is that about once a year per gate, lol. Anyone know how many gates there are?

LianneMigiano 12-12-2021 01:24 PM

Typo
 
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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 2038611)
Probably a typo. Maybe they meant to say since January?

I think that they meant NOVEMBER. Once recently they showed 120+ strikes in a single month!

Crazyladycruz 12-12-2021 05:44 PM

I’m sure many of the strikes are about timing also. There is a “loop” system in the ground. first opens it, middle keeps it open and the third closes it once past.

Trailers aren’t the problem.
I’ve been in the parking industry over 30 years dealing with “gates”.
Making the arms stand out would be the best idea! Reflective tape, a different color, or multiple colors would be an excellent idea. Peoples eye sight with some of the background can be a problem. 😊

Papa_lecki 12-12-2021 06:28 PM

I am pretty sure they use the colors required by the Department of Transportation. If they use a different color, and an accident happens, they couldn’t defend why they went with a different color, unless a lot of money is spent researching why one color is safer than the other. Now they defend the colors by saying its the DOT requirement.

JMintzer 12-12-2021 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hackercraft (Post 2038896)
How about putting solar powered led’s on the arms so the aged population can see them better.

We just got back from a wedding in Palm Beach Gardens at Mirasol (a golf club community). They have rectangular beam gates with lit up RED led lights that are IMPOSSIBLE to miss...

Don't know if they're solar powered, but they're on day and night...

CWGUY 12-12-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2039110)
We just got back from a wedding in Palm Beach Gardens at Mirasol (a golf club community). They have rectangular beam gates with lit up RED led lights that are IMPOSSIBLE to miss...

Don't know if they're solar powered, but they're on day and night...

:icon_wink: Any properties "For Sale"......asking for a friend. :)

JMintzer 12-12-2021 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2038983)
(sit and wait for the gate to come down then inch forward to trigger it to raise again)

That would mean stopping about where the golf carts cross, prior to the electric eyes, while the car in front exits. Then waiting there for several seconds for the system to determine no other cars are present and lower the gate.

Many (most? all?) the exit gates I go through seem to be adjusted to keep the arm up for a steady stream of cars to pass; the gate only goes back down a few seconds after the final car has gone by. I assume this was done intentionally to facilitate exiting traffic flow.

However, when I venture to other areas I occasionally encounter a gate that doesn't wait and comes down immediately and between cars. This unexpected behavior has caused me to hit the brakes in a hurry. I can understand how this might result in some gate strikes. k

Just as all the reader plates should be at the same height and same distance from the vehicles, all the exit gates should operate the same so drivers know what to expect.

You assumed wrong...

JMintzer 12-12-2021 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 2039111)
:icon_wink: Any properties "For Sale"......asking for a friend. :)

Plenty. But if you're used to TV prices, you'll have a freakin' heart attack there!

Papa_lecki 12-12-2021 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2039114)
Plenty. But if you're used to TV prices, you'll have a freakin' heart attack there!

There’s an article in Golf Digest this month about Jupiter Island. Since COVID, 30 homes in Palm Beach have sold for more than $30 million. That is driving development north.
If you sell your house in the Villages, you might be able to pay the entrance fees for most of the country clubs between Palm Beach and Boca.

twoplanekid 12-12-2021 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2039107)
I am pretty sure they use the colors required by the Department of Transportation. If they use a different color, and an accident happens, they couldn’t defend why they went with a different color, unless a lot of money is spent researching why one color is safer than the other. Now they defend the colors by saying its the DOT requirement.

Yes!

twoplanekid 12-12-2021 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2039058)
I read that there are about 2500 broken gates a year. What is that about once a year per gate, lol. Anyone know how many gates there are?

The District owns and maintains approximately 93 gate facilities, of which 23 are staffed with Gate Attendants.

Information from District website below ->
VCDD Risk Management

I believe most would have two gates in and one out with several one in and one out. A few have two in and two out. So, total gate count would be ?? I can ask.

thevillages2013 12-13-2021 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by EastCoastDawg (Post 2038913)
You may want to read previous posts to learn that most damage is done to the automatic arms on leaving a village; not the user-operated arms on entering a village.

Regardless, I think we may assume that much of the damage is caused by service providers who may not know The Villages that well and are rushing to their next job.

Anything that can make the arms more visible TO EVERYONE should be tried. We are the ones paying to repair the arms, so if we can reduce the number of collisions that money can be used for other purposes. With a reported 2,500 collisions per year, even a 10% reduction would save a lot of unnecessary expense.

The previous posts ARE WRONG. The exit gate arms are in the minority for being struck and knocked off by a long shot. Rarely have I ever seen an exit gate with the arm missing. Entry gates all the time


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