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asianthree 08-27-2020 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1823739)
You are being very flippant. You won't be so flippant if you wind up on a ventilator. Your last words just may be......."Oops, I guess I was wrong".

If u r on a vent words are not one of your strengths. Plus while on a vent u have zero knowledge of your surroundings. Been there twice, for more than 10 days, have zero knowledge of either event

Carl99 08-27-2020 11:52 AM

Open the squares, I want to live my life , not just sit home

Stu from NYC 08-27-2020 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Carl99 (Post 1823749)
Open the squares, I want to live my life , not just sit home

How did it work out when people sat shoulder to shoulder at bars?

New Englander 08-27-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1823735)
Keep in mind, perfectly healthy people, mostly the younger ones without underlying conditions, have died from Covid. NO ONE is immune from this virus. You may think you are a healthy specimen but that means nothing to this virus. It can still cut you down.

:agree:

YouNeverKnow 08-27-2020 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1823753)
How did it work out when people sat shoulder to shoulder at bars?

They are still sitting shoulder to shoulder. Go by City Fire in Lake Sumter any evening and every bar stool is full (shoulder to shoulder) people standing two deep behind those sitting at the bar. (Blowing cigar and cigarette smoke in each other’s faces) Belle Glade Entertainment nights and Trivia totally packed with tons of people (no distancing going on there.) Yes, both of these instances are outside but people are not more than a couple of feet from each other’s faces.
Go figure.

bwalton49@yahoo.com 08-27-2020 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pattytracey (Post 1823472)
Open the squares stop the fear let us enjoy life again this is beyond ridiculous

Let the good die young!

Bdame 08-27-2020 06:34 PM

Agreed

starflyte1 08-27-2020 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow (Post 1823896)
They are still sitting shoulder to shoulder. Go by City Fire in Lake Sumter any evening and every bar stool is full (shoulder to shoulder) people standing two deep behind those sitting at the bar. (Blowing cigar and cigarette smoke in each other’s faces) Belle Glade Entertainment nights and Trivia totally packed with tons of people (no distancing going on there.) Yes, both of these instances are outside but people are not more than a couple of feet from each other’s faces.
Go figure.

I saw Petrina at Belle Glade on Saturday night, August 15, and the tables were spaced for social distancing. I saw no place” totally packed with tons of people”. I was there. Were you?

Altavia 08-27-2020 10:08 PM

The squares could be reopened with relative safety if everyone in the square wore masks. Require drinks/food in separate socially distanced areas.

COVID-19 severity likely dose-dependent - Wear a mask - YouTube

More or less what is being done to open schools.

Barborv 08-29-2020 12:10 AM

If people want to go to populated areas, as long as EVERYONE is wearing a mask and not sitting on top of each other, it could work. But it has to be mandatory masks to protect the health of others. Just like you are not allowed to smoke in places, you have to wear a helmet , you have to wear a seat belt, drive at certain speeds, etc. This is to protect us and from each other. I'm tired of hearing about rights, what about other peoples right. They have every right to be there also. But Im talking when you're in crowds. Not taking a walk or golf cart drive, etc. I'm starting school in a week and it is MANDATORY to wear masks and 6 ft. apart. It will be in the classrooms but in the halls, forget about it. Obviously staff is most concerned, for Im sure the high school students, not so much. This is in NY.

coffeebean 08-29-2020 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bdame (Post 1823948)
Agreed

What are you agreeing to????? Did you agree that the "squares should be open" or did you agree to "let the good die young"??????

PLEASE quote the person you are addressing your comment to. We are not mind readers on this forum.

Thanks.

coffeebean 08-29-2020 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by starflyte1 (Post 1823973)
I saw Petrina at Belle Glade on Saturday night, August 15, and the tables were spaced for social distancing. I saw no place” totally packed with tons of people”. I was there. Were you?

Not all establishments are following the social distancing guidelines. I stay away from those but have no problem spending time and money at establishments which do follow guidelines. City Fire is one place I have not gone to and will stay away from indefinitely.

Wallyworld 08-29-2020 06:46 AM

I agree, and even if there is a vaccine I doubt it will be 100% effective. Live your life, every day you let slip away you are one day closer to the end.

Timothyimitchell 08-29-2020 07:54 AM

I would guess the majority of Americans feel this way. I do too. Live life and Get on with it.

Packer Fan 08-31-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnN (Post 1823699)
Holy Smokes! Have you looked at recent Florida and US virus data? Do you think this is remotely under control? Every school trying to open is closing because coronavirus is everywhere. The bike festival in South Dakota was a virus boondoggle for virus containment. I know you want to dance, I do too. But we need to as a society to do a little better job of being safe.

Check the data. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...-cases-deaths/


Dear Karen,
yeah, 7 cases out of 450,000 bikers- scary. What you have not figured out is - this is a bad case of the flu. Yeesh - if you are scared stay home and stick your head in the toilet. Let the rest of us who understand the risks are not that great go about our lives.
We have done the math and the risk is just not that great. 45,000 people die EVERY YEAR in auto accidents - do you not get in cars? Leave the rest of us out of your terror, we are not scared.

Signed - the majority who think Fauci is the problem.

Bay Kid 09-01-2020 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bwalton49@yahoo.com (Post 1823900)
Let the good die young!

Die young or hide old? Life is short no matter what. If you scared to go outside understandable.

Art cov 09-01-2020 11:42 AM

They will try to force us to take a vaccine after 20 rats have survived. Good luck with that!!! Most wont want their shot. If you think not wearing a mask is horrendous, what will you think of people who won’t have their vaccines papers on them to prove that they got it. Ding, ding, ding round 2 ladies and gentlemen. Buckle up it’s going to get interesting! 🤨

Number 10 GI 09-01-2020 02:40 PM

Whole lot of speculation based on some very flimsy evidence.

davem4616 09-01-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarguy (Post 1823587)
Hasn’t anyone noticed the entertainment taking place for weeks at various country clubs? I see no Big upturn in new COVID cases. Someone Please explain


it's all about risk....

they have lawyers, you have lawyers

IMHO for decades we should have closed down all the law schools and converted them to med schools, or trade schools

we have way, way more than enough lawyers

Stu from NYC 09-01-2020 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1826880)
it's all about risk....

they have lawyers, you have lawyers

IMHO for decades we should have closed down all the law schools and converted them to med schools, or trade schools

we have way, way more than enough lawyers

Well remember what Hamlet wanted to do to all the lawyers

Dgizzi 09-01-2020 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorbill1 (Post 1823313)
Noticed they were putting new soda dispensers and shields in at all the "Bait Shacks" at LSL this am. Might be getting ready for entertainment again? Wouldn't the bars needed to be opened first?

The bars in the squares are open and have been

Altavia 09-01-2020 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Art cov (Post 1826747)
They will try to force us to take a vaccine after 20 rats have survived. Good luck with that!!! Most wont want their shot. If you think not wearing a mask is horrendous, what will you think of people who won’t have their vaccines papers on them to prove that they got it. Ding, ding, ding round 2 ladies and gentlemen. Buckle up it’s going to get interesting!

Really?

There are at least seven 30,000 person phase 2/3 trials in the US.

Some will fail, some will succeed.

I'm one of the rats...

Federal health advisors predict four coronavirus vaccine trials backed by U.S. could fail

Art cov 09-02-2020 01:15 AM

Really! Sounds like they don’t have a clue and are trying to tell you not to put faith in what they are doing. Read that article closely. Good chances of failure and they admit it! The flu shot in itself is difficult for the making as a different strain comes out and they say (that’s the reason your flu shot didn’t work) lol they have worked on flu shots for many years and your telling me that you will trust them to come up with a miracle concoction in a few months. Just what might be injected into your body? Most of us have read the side effects of medicines. I wonder what might be the side effects of the COVID-19 shot. Even the brains of this outfit don’t know. Some might say, “WHO CARES” and be the first guinea pig to get in line! At least if your so inclined to hurry to the trough and get yours, let the doctors, chemists, and nurses get theirs first. Amen!

EdFNJ 09-02-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dgizzi (Post 1826909)
The bars in the squares are open and have been

Really? If they are they are breaking the law. Restaurants can serve liquor but free standing bars can't be opened unless they are also serving food to the same customer. They had been (legally) for a couple weeks then got closed. Don't remember seeing people standing at the bars at City Fire boozin it up..

As of 2 weeks ago:

State official: Bars, breweries could remain closed 6 more months due to coronavirus

thesquare 09-02-2020 12:33 PM

I think "CDC guidelines" is just an excuse for foot dragging on opening the squares. There's dancing at Edna's on the green with Scooter and other entertainment.

Villager-Wannabe 09-06-2020 11:41 AM

For those of you yearning for entertainment, you could always attend the Leesburg Bikefest which was rescheduled for November 13, 14, and 15 - 2020. Just wear black, don't shave for a few days, and you'll fit right in. Still could be a tad risky though.

milling73 09-07-2020 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1823381)
Totally agree. If the make the mistake of opening the squares before the pandemic is under control I hope they also open up multiple Covid testing facilities and put the ER on notice to get ready for the upcoming onslaught. I would rather wait to dance than risk experiencing what it's like to be on a ventelator.

Seriously ??? - your hysteria
Is not warranted. Going to The Squares is not mandatory. If you feel it is not medically safe - Don’t go.
But there are also many who feel it is time to resume all activities indoors and out.
If we wait until there is no risk of anyone catching this virus or any virus or flu or cold - that will be never.
Besides wasnt the Villages promise of entertainment, clubs, activities, classes etc - why most of us came here in the first place??

Dana1963 09-11-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1826899)
Well remember what Hamlet wanted to do to all the lawyers

“Let's kill all the lawyers" is a line from William Shakespeare's Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV, Scene 2.

sail33or 09-11-2020 04:58 PM

Funny that now the area without the Squares (Finney) has all the entertainment that used to be at the Squares.

Finney grill and Ednas on the Green have regular entertainment. Even Johnny Wild will be playing Ednas soon. It will be packed.

dewilson58 09-11-2020 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by milling73 (Post 1829572)
Seriously ??? - your hysteria Is not warranted.


But there are also many who feel it is time to resume all activities indoors and out.

Besides wasnt the Villages promise of entertainment, clubs, activities, classes etc - why most of us came here in the first place??


So did the college students, the holiday celebrators, etc.


What's that word???.......Ummmmm. What is it??? Oh yes, Entitled.



:ohdear:

Dana1963 09-11-2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 1826056)
Dear Karen,
yeah, 7 cases out of 450,000 bikers- scary. What you have not figured out is - this is a bad case of the flu. Yeesh - if you are scared stay home and stick your head in the toilet. Let the rest of us who understand the risks are not that great go about our lives.
We have done the math and the risk is just not that great. 45,000 people die EVERY YEAR in auto accidents - do you not get in cars? Leave the rest of us out of your terror, we are not scared.

Signed - the majority who think Fauci is the problem.

45,000 in a year how about 190,000 in 6 months at the end of March there were only 9600 deaths.

vintageogauge 09-11-2020 05:28 PM

Bars can open at 50% capacity starting Monday 9/14/20. Don't know if the shacks are considered bars.

Chitown 09-11-2020 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by milling73 (Post 1829572)
Seriously ??? - your hysteria
Is not warranted. Going to The Squares is not mandatory. If you feel it is not medically safe - Don’t go.
But there are also many who feel it is time to resume all activities indoors and out.
If we wait until there is no risk of anyone catching this virus or any virus or flu or cold - that will be never.
Besides wasnt the Villages promise of entertainment, clubs, activities, classes etc - why most of us came here in the first place??

. Thank you. Thank you for common sense. I am sick and tired of the hysteria over the virus. From birth we are subjected to viruses, bacteria, and germs. People have been in contact with dangerous germs, viruses and bacteria forever. If you were elderly, if you had a lot of health issues, if you had a compromised immunity many, many things could kill you, hell the annual flu kills 60,000 people a year. If you don’t like the idea of people going on with their lives without fear then for God sakes stay home. The fact is that Florida’s death rate is now below 2%. I’ll see everyone at the squares and any other venue that has crowds. And by the way I’ll be happy to shake your hand when we meet.

Chitown 09-11-2020 10:56 PM

Well my friend then you stay home. You drive around with your mask on in your car, you drive your golf cart with your mask on. It has killed so many more people because so many more have contracted it than the flu. Everyone wants to ignore that the death rate is now below 2% and dropping. The doctors who monitor viruses at the cdc admitted the other day that thousands of people are still dying from the swine flu and other strains of flu from 10 years ago. At what point are you going to say enough is enough. I’ll take my chances. I have had family and friends contract COVID 19 all recovered with minimal symptoms. If your going to wait for this virus to be eradicated from society then you mine as well wear your mask and stay home forever.

Bay Kid 09-12-2020 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by thesquare (Post 1827247)
I think "CDC guidelines" is just an excuse for foot dragging on opening the squares. There's dancing at Edna's on the green with Scooter and other entertainment.

Hard to trust the CDC. Just another gov group that love to control it's people.

EdFNJ 09-12-2020 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 1831713)
Well my friend then you stay home. You drive around with your mask on in your car, you drive your golf cart with your mask on. It has killed so many more people because so many more have contracted it than the flu. Everyone wants to ignore that the death rate is now below 2% and dropping. The doctors who monitor viruses at the cdc admitted the other day that thousands of people are still dying from the swine flu and other strains of flu from 10 years ago. At what point are you going to say enough is enough. I’ll take my chances. I have had family and friends contract COVID 19 all recovered with minimal symptoms. If your going to wait for this virus to be eradicated from society then you mine as well wear your mask and stay home forever.


First of all, I'm not your friend. People are still getting polio, whooping cough and measles, dying from drug overdoses, drunken driving and swimming too close to finishing lunch so what's your point? I never said word 1 about staying home, wearing masks or driving golf carts, you simply "spun" that onto my post to avoid what are facts. I simply said "get your facts straight" and stop minimizing what is going on. It would seem quite obvious why your "family and friends" contacted Covid if they have attitudes like yours. Do they know how many people THEY may have killed by spreading it? I am happy to hear they survived but again, what's your point? 200,000 have NOT survived.

You said "It has killed so many more people because so many more have contracted it than the flu." Well DUHHHHHHH! Thank you. On that I rest my case. Your "talking points" sadly sound so familiar.

skyking 09-13-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 1831696)
. Thank you. Thank you for common sense. I am sick and tired of the hysteria over the virus. From birth we are subjected to viruses, bacteria, and germs. People have been in contact with dangerous germs, viruses and bacteria forever. If you were elderly, if you had a lot of health issues, if you had a compromised immunity many, many things could kill you, hell the annual flu kills 60,000 people a year. If you don’t like the idea of people going on with their lives without fear then for God sakes stay home. The fact is that Florida’s death rate is now below 2%. I’ll see everyone at the squares and any other venue that has crowds. And by the way I’ll be happy to shake your hand when we meet.

I agree! I hope to see you at a Square very soon

coffeebean 09-13-2020 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarguy (Post 1823587)
Hasn’t anyone noticed the entertainment taking place for weeks at various country clubs? I see no Big upturn in new COVID cases. Someone Please explain

Social distancing can be controlled in those environments. Social distancing will fall by the wayside at the squares. It will become a free for all when Rocky or Johnny Wild and other great groups provide the entertainment.

We are going to see Johnny Wild in a couple of days for a dinner show at the country club at Stonecrest. The tables are spaced apart and are very much within proper CDC guidelines.

Sorry, but social distancing at the squares will be impossible to maintain when a popular band is playing and folks will not be wearing masks while they are sipping on their adult beverages.

coffeebean 09-13-2020 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kendi (Post 1823607)
Edna’s has been open with entertainment and it’s been wonderful. People are respectful of the social distancing. The fact that it’s a smaller venue than the squares certainly helps. People go more to listen to the music and relax. Would be nice if the squares could open with the same mindset. Not sure if it’s possible though.

Has Johnny Wild or Rocky played at Edna's? I didn't think so.

EDIT: Just read on another post that Johnny Wild will be playing at Edna's. If that is the case, why don't they open up the squares? He draws a huge crowd and social distancing will be impossible to maintain.

coffeebean 09-13-2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by starflyte1 (Post 1823653)
Johnny Wild plays each Monday evening at Lopez CC. Social distancing is strictly enforced!!!

That is a completely different type of venue than the squares. But, I'm sure you already knew that.


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